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A Triple Crown for GP Wins?

Postby DOSBoot » 01 Jan 2011, 03:58

Since there is a Triple Crown of Motorsport (Monaco, Le Mans, and the Indy 500.), and a Triple Crown of endurance race (Le Mans, 24hs of Daytona, and the 24hs of Sebering.), do you think there should be a Triple Crown for Grand Prix race wins? If so, what would you choose? For me, it would be a win at Monaco, a win at the Nurburgring (old and new), and a win at Monza. (It was tough chiose between the Nurburgring, or Spa, but I chose The Ring.)
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Re: A Triple Crown for GP Wins?

Postby F1000X » 01 Jan 2011, 04:26

Monaco, Monza, Silverstone or Monaco, Monza and Spa. It could really go either way. The new Nurburgring is nothing like the old one, It's legacy died in 1976. Spa at least uses fragments of the old circuit, and both Spa and Silverstone were around for the inaugural season. The way I see it, the British, Italian, Monaco are the most important to the teams, while Spa is one of the most important to the drivers. German grand prix is meh, except to German drivers.
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Re: A Triple Crown for GP Wins?

Postby WeirdKerr » 01 Jan 2011, 04:52

monaco, monza and silverstone, i guess
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Re: A Triple Crown for GP Wins?

Postby tc3j3r » 01 Jan 2011, 04:52

Monaco, Spa, home race.
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Re: A Triple Crown for GP Wins?

Postby This » 01 Jan 2011, 05:02

F1 would be monaco, monza and spa, because the character of these tracks hasn't really changed over the years (while nurburgring and to a lesser extent silverstone did) silverstone would also have to share the british history with brands, which none of the othere tracks had to. So if you would say 'win the british GP' it would make a top4, which was a top 5 with germany until nurburgring got cut short and hockenheim got tilke-fied, if you would have to choose 3 it would be 'monaco, spa, and 'whichever of the other 3 you like the most'


other categories:
1000 km: spa, monza and nurburgring/silverstone
i would still put the spa 24h in that 24h category, although it's not a sportscar-race, it's legendary for the simple reason that it is at spa, it has a tradition starting in the 20's
had some bad periods, the end of the 90's not being particulary interesting with peugeot 306's driving for the win, and even someone competing with a pimped-up peugeot 806... but with going back to GT, they put themselves back on the map.
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Re: A Triple Crown for GP Wins?

Postby Glennerz » 01 Jan 2011, 06:07

tc3j3r wrote:Monaco, Spa, home race.


But what if you're Belgian, or indeed Monegasque? Double Crown doesn't have quite the same ring to it...
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Re: A Triple Crown for GP Wins?

Postby shinji » 01 Jan 2011, 06:19

Monaco, Monza (or Silverstone) and Spa.

Silverstone probably over Monza. Provides better races from what I've seen.
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Re: A Triple Crown for GP Wins?

Postby BlindCaveSalamander » 01 Jan 2011, 06:21

It's a difficult decision. Personally, I'd go for Monaco, Silverstone, and Suzuka. Add in Spa and Monza for a Grand Slam.
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Re: A Triple Crown for GP Wins?

Postby ADx_Wales » 01 Jan 2011, 06:43

Seeing as 4 of the original 7 World Championship venues are still on the calendar, maybe its not a Triple Crown.
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Re: A Triple Crown for GP Wins?

Postby Bleu » 01 Jan 2011, 07:38

Glennerz wrote:
tc3j3r wrote:Monaco, Spa, home race.


But what if you're Belgian, or indeed Monegasque? Double Crown doesn't have quite the same ring to it...


Also note that for example Mika Häkkinen, Kimi Räikkönen and Robert Kubica were/are not able to do that trio as they don't have home race. And I tried to list drivers who are at least GP winners.
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Re: A Triple Crown for GP Wins?

Postby tommykl » 01 Jan 2011, 20:28

Monaco, Spa, Monza.
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Re: A Triple Crown for GP Wins?

Postby FullMetalJack » 01 Jan 2011, 22:36

Bahrain, Valencia and Abu Dhabi
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Re: A Triple Crown for GP Wins?

Postby jpm » 02 Jan 2011, 00:51

redbulljack14 wrote:Bahrain, Valencia and Abu Dhabi

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Surely it has to be the circuits which have been with us since 1950; so Silverstone, Monza and Spa? Even though there are tracks out there that are far more exciting; for example I think F1 should go to the volcanic track in Argentina; Potrero de los Funes Circuit in San Luis and Portimao in Portugal.
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Re: A Triple Crown for GP Wins?

Postby JeremyMcClean » 02 Jan 2011, 02:36

I was preparing myself to attack this as being too easy to win, but clearly I did some research and it's quite the opposite!
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Re: A Triple Crown for GP Wins?

Postby DOSBoot » 05 May 2012, 07:05

A number of people seem to go for the Monaco-Spa-Monza layout. So here's a list of drivers that have won that triple crown so far.

Triple Crown:
Micheal Shumacher
Alain Prost
Juan Manuel Fangio
Aryton Senna
David Couthard
Sebastien Vettel
Guiseppe Farina (If you count before F1.)

Missing Monaco:
Nigel Mansell
Damon Hill
Jim Clark
John Surtees
Phil Hill
Nelson Piquet
Emerson Fittipaldi (If you count him as a Nivells Winner.)
Tony Brooks
Alberto Ascari
Guiseppe Farina (If you don't count before F1.)

Missing Spa:
Niki Lauda (Zolder Winner.)
Jody Sheckter (Zolder Winner.)
Jackie Stewart (Zolder Winner.)
Ronnie Peterson
Fernando Alonso
Denny Hulme
Stirling Moss
Graham Hill
Juan Pablo Montoya

Missing Monza:
Kimi Raikkonen
Lewis Hamilton
Carlos Ruetteman (If you count him as a Zolder Winner.)
Bruce McLaren
Mika Hakkinen
Jack Brabham


If I missed anyone, please correct me.
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Re: A Triple Crown for GP Wins?

Postby dr-baker » 05 May 2012, 07:16

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Re: A Triple Crown for GP Wins?

Postby DOSBoot » 05 May 2012, 07:19

dr-baker wrote:Wow. That was a slightly epic bump...


My pleasure. 8-)
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Re: A Triple Crown for GP Wins?

Postby Stramala » 05 May 2012, 07:23

Monza, Spa, Silverstone.

Yep, the omission of Monaco was on purpose...
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Re: A Triple Crown for GP Wins?

Postby DOSBoot » 05 May 2012, 07:25

kostas22 wrote:Monza, Spa, Silverstone.

Yep, the omission of Monaco was on purpose...


I'm guessing so that drivers like Nigel Mansell, and Damon Hill would be eligible for it.
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Re: A Triple Crown for GP Wins?

Postby Stramala » 05 May 2012, 07:27

DOSBoot wrote:
kostas22 wrote:Monza, Spa, Silverstone.

Yep, the omission of Monaco was on purpose...


I'm guessing so that drivers like Nigel Mansell, and Damon Hill would be eligible for it.

Incorrect. Just because I'm fed up of hearing about bathplugging Monaco all the time. It's a diddy track.
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Re: A Triple Crown for GP Wins?

Postby koza » 05 May 2012, 07:39

This wrote:F1 would be monaco, monza and spa, because the character of these tracks hasn't really changed over the years (while nurburgring and to a lesser extent silverstone did) silverstone would also have to share the british history with brands, which none of the othere tracks had to. So if you would say 'win the british GP' it would make a top4, which was a top 5 with germany until nurburgring got cut short and hockenheim got tilke-fied, if you would have to choose 3 it would be 'monaco, spa, and 'whichever of the other 3 you like the most'


other categories:
1000 km: spa, monza and nurburgring/silverstone
i would still put the spa 24h in that 24h category, although it's not a sportscar-race, it's legendary for the simple reason that it is at spa, it has a tradition starting in the 20's
had some bad periods, the end of the 90's not being particulary interesting with peugeot 306's driving for the win, and even someone competing with a pimped-up peugeot 806... but with going back to GT, they put themselves back on the map.
F3: monaco, macau, zandvoort


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Re: A Triple Crown for GP Wins?

Postby DOSBoot » 05 May 2012, 07:40

koza wrote:
This wrote:F1 would be monaco, monza and spa, because the character of these tracks hasn't really changed over the years (while nurburgring and to a lesser extent silverstone did) silverstone would also have to share the british history with brands, which none of the othere tracks had to. So if you would say 'win the british GP' it would make a top4, which was a top 5 with germany until nurburgring got cut short and hockenheim got tilke-fied, if you would have to choose 3 it would be 'monaco, spa, and 'whichever of the other 3 you like the most'


other categories:
1000 km: spa, monza and nurburgring/silverstone
i would still put the spa 24h in that 24h category, although it's not a sportscar-race, it's legendary for the simple reason that it is at spa, it has a tradition starting in the 20's
had some bad periods, the end of the 90's not being particulary interesting with peugeot 306's driving for the win, and even someone competing with a pimped-up peugeot 806... but with going back to GT, they put themselves back on the map.
F3: monaco, macau, zandvoort


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Re: A Triple Crown for GP Wins?

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Re: A Triple Crown for GP Wins?

Postby AdrianSutil » 05 May 2012, 12:24

Monaco, Spa and Monza. If no Spa on calendar chuck in Silverstone.

Monaco has to be there because of the glitz and glamour surrounding the event. Although I wouldn't really miss the actual race being off the calendar these days but that will never happen.
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Re: A Triple Crown for GP Wins?

Postby eurobrun » 05 May 2012, 12:28

Monaco, Spa/Monza, Montreal.
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Re: A Triple Crown for GP Wins?

Postby nome66 » 06 May 2012, 03:45

Monaco, NYC(2013), France(2013)
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Re: A Triple Crown for GP Wins?

Postby Sublime_FA11C » 06 May 2012, 09:09

There's no point to having a triple crown within a series. It has to be cross-series otherwise it's nonsensical. Arent we just nominating our favourtite tracks with big history behind them?

In football a triple crown is winning the league, the cup and a major international competition. Motorsport generally defines winning Monaco, Indianapolis 500 and Le Mans 24hrs as the triple crown. The only "special" events within a same series in the case of football would be the great rival teams playing each other in league competition, but you couldn't stretch those into a triple crown thing. Just doesn't make sense.

Monaco stands out as the F1 classic race, and winning it is prestigious for sure. But there arent any other tracks that can compare with it. Possibly Macau can rival it but it's not an F1 track.

The most impressive F1 tracks still alive are Spa, Suzuka and Monza. Monaco is nice and different and all but isn't really down to skill so much as luck, machine and qualifying. Silverstone is overhyped and overrated because it's british and because it was a good track a long time ago. But for me Silverstone is dull. Donington on the other hand...

EDIT - Sorry, forgot to mention Montreal and Interlagos. Montreal is still impressive though a bit less than the other three, and Interlagos is just too nice a track not to mention.
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Re: A Triple Crown for GP Wins?

Postby F1000X » 06 May 2012, 10:44

Sublime_FA11C wrote:Monaco stands out as the F1 classic race, and winning it is prestigious for sure. But there arent any other tracks that can compare with it. Possibly Macau can rival it but it's not an F1 track.


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Re: A Triple Crown for GP Wins?

Postby nome66 » 06 May 2012, 23:27

Sublime_FA11C wrote:There's no point to having a triple crown within a series.

then why were the CART seasons with the Indy500, Michigan500, and Pocono500 the greatest we had ever seen?
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Re: A Triple Crown for GP Wins?

Postby Sublime_FA11C » 07 May 2012, 04:49

Because Michigan is triple-awesome.
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