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by **East Londoner** » 05 Nov 2011, 04:09

May be somewhat premature to start this thread now, considering the race is not until next week, but I thought I might as well. (I bloody well wish the race was this weekend, this season is really dragging now)

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2011/11/04/robert-wickens-drive-practice-abu-dhabi/

I wonder what this could lead to?

by **eagleash** » 05 Nov 2011, 04:33

Well the second Vir.....Marussia seat is still not decided......who knows.

by **AndreaModa** » 05 Nov 2011, 04:46

I actually hope they keep D'Ambrosio, they need driver continuity in my opinion on both sides of the garage.

by **JeremyMcClean** » 05 Nov 2011, 05:03

The name changes are affective as of this weekend? Hmm... AndreaModa had better update his signature...

by **DanielPT** » 05 Nov 2011, 05:06

He might have a chance to replace d'Ambrosio there, given good performances in FP. Nevertheless, I believe that it would be a waste of a perfectly good talent if he takes that chance (Sorry, AndreaModa). Unless he beats Timo Glock, which on the other hand, might mean the end of Glock's F1 career...

by **AndreaModa** » 05 Nov 2011, 06:38

JeremyMcClean wrote:The name changes are affective as of this weekend? Hmm... AndreaModa had better update his signature...

As far as I was aware they weren't coming into force until next year, mainly due to the TV payout deals and the fact that the teams aren't officially announcing anything until early December when it's all finally agreed by the WMSC (which is believed to be a formality). Not looking forward to my local team being named after an obscure Russian sports car manufacturer though...then again it is pretty rejectful I guess!

DanielPT wrote:He might have a chance to replace d'Ambrosio there, given good performances in FP. Nevertheless, I believe that it would be a waste of a perfectly good talent if he takes that chance (Sorry, AndreaModa). Unless he beats Timo Glock, which on the other hand, might mean the end of Glock's F1 career...

No I agree I think the last thing any rookie with any talent needs to do is get tied up in a contract with a back of the grid team, better off to do what Ricciardo has done, work slowly up inside a more front running team's structure, then get farmed out to a smaller team for the experience. A bit like what Briatore used to do with the drivers under his management, send them off to Minardi for their first year before then moving them up.

by **East Londoner** » 10 Nov 2011, 04:55

Oh dear, another double-DRS zone race...

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2011/11/09/double-drs-zones-abu-dhabi/

by **AndreaModa** » 10 Nov 2011, 07:10

Well after the snoozefest of last year, it's hardly surprising really. I just hope we actually see some overtakes this time round!

by **Phoenix** » 10 Nov 2011, 08:58

East Londoner wrote:Oh dear, another double-DRS zone race...

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2011/11/09/double-drs-zones-abu-dhabi/

I'm wondering, why not putting the DRS activation zones more forward to take more profit of the lenght of the straights?

by **Peter** » 10 Nov 2011, 11:02

Phoenix wrote:
East Londoner wrote:Oh dear, another double-DRS zone race...

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2011/11/09/double-drs-zones-abu-dhabi/

I'm wondering, why not putting the DRS activation zones more forward to take more profit of the lenght of the straights?

More forward meaning, further from the braking zone? In that case, then they don't do so, to minimize the advantage of DRS, so as to not make overtaking too easy. Too close, and you have problems, with artificial racing, as well as a significantly larger difference in closing speed, which could prove to be deadly. i.e. Webber @ Valencia 2010.

by **Phoenix** » 11 Nov 2011, 08:06

Peter wrote:
Phoenix wrote:
East Londoner wrote:Oh dear, another double-DRS zone race...

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2011/11/09/double-drs-zones-abu-dhabi/

I'm wondering, why not putting the DRS activation zones more forward to take more profit of the lenght of the straights?

More forward meaning, further from the braking zone? In that case, then they don't do so, to minimize the advantage of DRS, so as to not make overtaking too easy. Too close, and you have problems, with artificial racing, as well as a significantly larger difference in closing speed, which could prove to be deadly. i.e. Webber @ Valencia 2010.

[sarcasm]Oh, but if they going to have artificial racing, they may as well do it properly. After all, Yas Marina is not known for being an overtaking-friendly circuit, so let's not make it harder for drivers to pass.[/sarcasm]

Seriously, I'm growing less and less fond of the DRS with each race.

by **sswishbone** » 11 Nov 2011, 18:42

^ if you can find an english feed like that for next year definitely share them as I ain't getting sky!

Regarding this weekend, I think the organisers have made a huge error in not putting forward their changes to the circuit, even with the tyres and DRS we saw in India that if the corners have either one line due to rubbish offline or poor cambering and linkage, DRS will only work for cars that are pretty much in a different league

by **the Masked Lapwing** » 11 Nov 2011, 18:43

hemanthjava wrote:Watch Abu Dhabi Grand Prix 2011 live streaming online here. The 2011 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix is scheduled to be the eighteenth and penultimate round of the 2011 Formula One season. It will be held on 13 November 2011 at the Yas Marina Circuit on Yas Island.

Really? The Abu Dhabi GP is this weekend? I had no idea...

by **razta** » 11 Nov 2011, 18:45

remember this..

then this happened

by **AdrianSutil** » 11 Nov 2011, 19:28

What's the first picture about?

by **razta** » 11 Nov 2011, 19:29

AdrianSutil wrote:What's the first picture about?

well i took it at the paddock.. it looked like he was getting FIRED, or given a warning.. then on sunday BOOM! :lol:

by **AdrianSutil** » 11 Nov 2011, 19:32

razta wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:What's the first picture about?

well i took it at the paddock.. it looked like he was getting FIRED, or given a warning.. then on sunday BOOM!

Pretty cool you got that close

. Assume you had a pit pass? Anyway, it certainly looks like he's getting a rollicking from someone :lol:

by **razta** » 11 Nov 2011, 19:50

AdrianSutil wrote:
razta wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:What's the first picture about?

well i took it at the paddock.. it looked like he was getting FIRED, or given a warning.. then on sunday BOOM!

Pretty cool you got that close . Assume you had a pit pass? Anyway, it certainly looks like he's getting a rollicking from someone

yeah pitpass with TeamLotus

Website · by **Wizzie** » 11 Nov 2011, 20:47

FP1 107% time: 1:47.281

Worringly for Virgin, both cars were miles away from making it whilst both Hispanias cleared the mark.

by **DanielPT** » 11 Nov 2011, 20:53

Where is the reject of the race thread? Petrov behind Grosjean? That will not do! RoTR for Petrov, now!*

*Just joking, Captain!

Seriously, now. That oil pressure problem is what he needs the least right now. Another piece of unfairness for him...

by **dr-baker** » 11 Nov 2011, 21:31

Damn, I missed FP1. Because this race is to the east of Europe, I assumed that FP1 wouldn't commence until around the time that FP2 is actually taking place. Did I miss anything?

Website · by **Wizzie** » 11 Nov 2011, 21:37

dr-baker wrote:Damn, I missed FP1. Because this race is to the east of Europe, I assumed that FP1 wouldn't commence until around the time that FP2 is actually taking place. Did I miss anything?

Other than Petrov's car lunching itself and Williams with more problems for Barry, you missed nothing. :lol:

by **razta** » 11 Nov 2011, 21:45

Ferrari's had way to much snap-oversteer

by **Ed24** » 12 Nov 2011, 00:18

The final chicane at Montreal has the Wall of Champions, Turn 1 at Abu Dhabi is now the Wall of Double World Champions! :lol:

by **jpm** » 12 Nov 2011, 07:30

If the drivers keep messing up as they have done so far, we may see a race of old - ya know, with a few retirements and all that where our friends at Virgin can finally unrejectify themselves! Alonso, Vettel, Massa, and erm, Glock, all messed up at turn 1, while Webber, Alonso again, and Alonso again had spins elsewhere. Ferrari really looks a handful this weekend.

Kudos to Grosjean for being quicker than Petrov, and good showings by Vergne and Wickens, who I hope goes into Marussia next year ahead of Pic, because he may not get a better chance, having just won 3.5 and is blatantly ready for F1. I really like d'Ambrosio (amiable chap when I got his autograph last year :lol:

) but as a Wickens fan too, I really hope he gets in.

by **James1978** » 12 Nov 2011, 19:57

Anyone think the circuit would be better if they went the opposite way round? Then the hairpin would be at the end of the long straight rather than the start of it!

by **mario** » 12 Nov 2011, 20:47

Looks like Boullier is going to be in a pretty foul mood this weekend - Kravitz has revealed that Boullier has accidentally broken the "overnight curfew" that has been imposed in recent years to prevent the mechanics being overworked, though the teams are allowed to break the curfew up to four times without penalty.

Unfortunately for Boullier, the curfew also applies to senior team personnel, and when he turned up the circuit today about 10 minutes before the curfew ended, he was informed by an FIA official that he was breaking the curfew. To begin with, he disputed that, pointing out that he was attending a meeting with Gerard Lopez and other investors and not even entering the garage, let alone working on the car, only to be informed that was of no importance; as soon as he entered the paddock, he was breaking the curfew. Having argued the point - possibly swearing quite extensively at the FIA official in the process - his eventual reply was along the lines of "Fine - count it as breaking the curfew, I don't care".
Speaking of Renault, Kravitz was also pointing out that Renault also seem to increasingly doubt that Kubica will be fit enough to compete in F1 next year, given that he has still not driven a vehicle in anger, though it does look as if they are still holding out hope that he may be fit enough to return to the cockpit later on.

Also, looks like Rubens is being hit by yet more problems - Kravitz is reporting that there is a major oil leak in Rubens's car, and Williams have had to strip the engine out of the car for inspection. At the very least it means that his session is over, and he might also need an engine change depending on how severe the oil loss problems are.

Website · by **Wizzie** » 12 Nov 2011, 21:00

It's not very often that one would say this but Alonso is looking like an accident waiting to happen this weekend.

by **Ed24** » 12 Nov 2011, 22:27

Wizzie wrote:It's not very often that one would say this but Alonso is looking like an accident waiting to happen this weekend.

He has so many good memories here though! And he's improving every year - 14th in 2009, 7th in 2010... :lol:

by **QuickYoda41** » 12 Nov 2011, 23:19

So, that's a last row for Williams...

by **Shizuka** » 12 Nov 2011, 23:24

The way Rubens talks feels like he's about to leave.

Website · by **Wizzie** » 12 Nov 2011, 23:25

I'ld imagine this is the first time ever that Williams have locked out the last row on the grid :shock:

EDIT: That is assuming Maldonado doesn't go higher than 13th in Q2

by **Ed24** » 12 Nov 2011, 23:32

Apparently it's Williams' worst qualifying since 1975 at Watkins Glen when they were 21st (Laffite) and 24th (Lombardi)!

by **AdrianSutil** » 12 Nov 2011, 23:52

Yep, last row lock-out for Williams! How the mighty have fallen.

Force India not to run in Q3?

by **QuickYoda41** » 13 Nov 2011, 00:03

All 10 drivers on the circuit :shock:

by **TheBigJ** » 13 Nov 2011, 00:10

Vettel as reject of the race for being so boring. I'd love to see him at the wheel of the 2004 McLaren.

by **mario** » 13 Nov 2011, 00:19

In retrospect, does anybody think that Massa might be given a caution for repeatedly cutting across the kerbs, especially given that in the process he knocked the bollard onto the track and caused that red flag? Given that the drivers in the support races have been warned not to cut across that kerb, and it was clear that Massa did do just that, might he be given a friendly warning from the stewards not to do that again?

As for Williams, it isn't just the fact that Rubens didn't, or couldn't, set a time, rejectful though that is - it's that Maldonado, who was able to run a normal qualifying session (despite the engine change he is having to take), couldn't get any higher up the grid than 17th. What's more worrying, though, is that Maldonado was the thick end of half a second behind the next slowest driver...

Also, looking at the lap times, what surprises me is that only Vettel and Button appear to have gone any faster in that final session - everybody else either matched their time in Q2 (literally in the case of Alonso - the BBC website has him down as setting a 1:39.058 in both Q2 and Q3), or went slower (Hamilton, Rosberg, Sutil and Schumacher all fell back by a few tenths in Q3 compared to their Q2 times).

by **Cynon** » 13 Nov 2011, 00:43

The starting grid even looks boring, even though I'm grinning from ear to ear just to see Williams lock out the back row of the grid. Can we PLEASE give everyone in F1 GP2 cars on race morning and tell them to race those? I guarantee you'll get a race out of it.

by **DOSBoot** » 13 Nov 2011, 01:27

QuickYoda41 wrote:So, that's a last row for Williams...

Yep, they have offically clinched ROTY in my book. Although it was kind of obvious almost right from the start of the season.

by **Klon** » 13 Nov 2011, 02:01

I've said it before and will say it again until everyone has grown absolutely tired of it: with Vettel we are seeing one of the greatest qualifying drivers in F1 history. Not even the "great car" argument does cut it anymore the way he's been getting poles.

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