F1 Rejects Driver Ratings

[Waris]

Brother, my brother
Tell me what are we fighting for
We've got to end this war
We should love one another
Oh, can't we just pretend
This war never began
We can try
Brother, my brother
Blessed Union Of Souls - Brother, My Brother

OHMYGOD you quoted Brother, My Brother. I love you dearly now, and if I wouldn't love my girlfriend more I'd propose to you.

Also, talk about a thread that progresses slowly...

[Tealy]

Raw Pace - 4.5
Nothing to write home about when it came to speed. The fact that Pizzonia got 6 points from 4 races when Gene got 0 from 2 in the 2004 season tells me that Gene was never a quick driver.

Strategic Ability - 5.0
I've put down a 5 because it's the middle value. I never saw Gene get a good strategy but its not like he threw anything away with a bad strategy either.

Personal Reliability - 8.5
A few problems in his early years, but a while working as a test driver made him a reliable and dependable development driver.

Entertainment Value - 2.5
Gene entertaining? Hardly.

Personal Sympathy - 4.5
I am personally not a fan of Marc, but he gets some sympathy for having almost no fans from his home country. By the time Spain stood to attention it was for Alonso and not him or De La Rosa.

[Enforcer]

Gene

Pace - 5.5 He wasn't exceptionally fast or else he'd have progressed beyond Minardi, was about equal to Badoer in qualifying in 99 (although Badoer got his car of the back row a bit more)/ But 5th on the grid in Italy 03, as well as 8th in France '04 (within .2 of JPM) show that he wasn't entirely devoid of speed.

Strategic Ability - 5. Spending 90% of his F1 career at Minardi means I simply didn't notice his strategies.Insufficient data to rate him, so middle of the road.

Personal Reliability - 6.5. Don't recall many spins and he generally got the car to the flag, but remeber I mentioned France '04? Following race he was more than 1 second off Montoya. Reliably quick he ain't.

Entertainment Value - 5. Hardly ever on the feckin' screen to be entertaining.

Personal Sympathy - 7. I like Minardi drivers as a rule.

[Klon]

Unoffical F1 Rejects Driver's Ranking
1.: Michael Schumacher (8,29688)
2.: Juan Pablo Montoya (7,45833)
3.: Rubens Barrichello (7,35000)
4.: Ralf Schumacher (6,90625)
5.: Marc Gené (5,67500)

Unoffical F1 Rejects Emotional Driver's Ranking
1.: Michael Schumacher (7,93750)
2.: Rubens Barrichello (7,67000)
3.: Juan Pablo Montoya (7,33333)
4.: Ralf Schumacher (6,42500)
5.: Marc Gené (5,52000)

Unoffical F1 Rejects Raw Pace Ranking
1.: Michael Schumacher (8,87500)
2.: Juan Pablo Montoya (8,77778)
3.: Rubens Barrichello (7,60000)
4.: Ralf Schumacher (7,12500)
5.: Marc Gené (5,60000)

Unoffical F1 Rejects Strategic Ranking
1.: Michael Schumacher (8,87500)
2.: Ralf Schumacher (6,75000)
3.: Rubens Barrichello (6,30000)
4.: Juan Pablo Montoya (5,77778)
5.: Marc Gené (5,40000)

Unoffical F1 Rejects Reliability Ranking
1.: Michael Schumacher (9,12500)
2.: Marc Gené (8,20000)
3.: Ralf Schumacher (7,75000)
4.: Rubens Barrichello (7,55000)
5.: Juan Pablo Montoya (5,66667)

Unoffical F1 Rejects Entertainment Ranking
1.: Juan Pablo Montoya (9,61111)
2.: Rubens Barrichello (8,05000)
3.: Ralf Schumacher (6,00000)
4.: Michael Schumacher (5,81250)
5.: Marc Gené (3,50000)

Unoffical F1 Rejects Sympathy Ranking
1.: Rubens Barrichello (8,85000)
2.: Juan Pablo Montoya (6,83333)
3.: Michael Schumacher (6,50000)
4.: Marc Gené (4,90000)
5.: Ralf Schumacher (4,50000)


Seeing as this thread is slowly going down (and the fact that I won't let some unknown douche ( ) be the first reject in here), I'll skip Pizzonia and go straight to...

*** DAVID COULTHARD ***

Raw Pace - 7.5
The pace was most certainly there, but he simply wasn't THE man in this regard, losing out to the greats of our sport.

Strategic Ability - 7.5
Virtually the same story as with Raw Pace, he could make a strategy work, but he would never win titles with it.

Personal Reliability - 7.0
A reliable helper for Häkkinen's ambitions and a good helper for the early Red Bull team, but had a tendency to off-days as seen in his early seasons as well as in 2008.

Entertainment Value - 9.0
One of the most interesting sort with his Scottish humour - the odd team radio once in a while and of course the ... interesting reason for training with his pit lane speed limiter as telled to Louise Goodman. A very entertaining driver.

Personal Sympathy - 8.0
Well, as described above, he was very entertaining - I was quite disappointed at the end of his last race.

[Stramala]

Raw Pace - 7.0
He was fast...sort of. Never blindingly quick however, and didn't have that extra speed in reserve that most champions seem to be able to dig deep for.

Strategic Ability - 7.0
Same as above, though he was usually able to carry out any strategy he was given reasonably well. Though he wasn't able to pull off any extreme strategies like Schumi.

Personal Reliability - 6.5
Almost always points in his (later) McLaren days but that was about it. Adelaide 1995 puts a big dent in his scorecard however...even Inoue or the like wouldn't have done something as stupid as that.

Entertainment Value - 9.5
Controversial and outspoken. His rant at Australia 2008 showed he still had it in him, threatning he would kick "three colours of shite out of the little bastard" if Massa didn't apologize.

Personal Sympathy - 5.0
I am a Scot. I started following F1 in 1997. So who did I support from then on? You guessed it...Hakkinen. Yup. DC was bland, not especially interesting on the track, only off it. As a racing driver he never really set the world alight. McLaren probably forgot he was their other driver since 1996, as I can't think of any other reason they kept him for 8 years.

[Tealy]

Raw Pace - 8.0
Never championship winning quick, but he was always quick on his day. I don't think he came out of his shell until Hakkinen left and by then the Ferrari was dominant.

Strategic Ability - 7.5
Not really a risk taker so I can't give him a high rating, but he rarely ruined his strategy.

Personal Reliability - 8.0
A few silly errors in his early and late years but generally he was the kind of driver you could trust to bring the car home.

Entertainment Value - 9.5
As others have said, he was always a great laugh out of the car.

Personal Sympathy - 8.5
I was quite the fan of DC. He was never the greatest driver of his time but he got lucky with his team choices and made use of that fact. He was doing well during the Schumi dominance (As I stated before, I supported anyone against Schumi in those days) so I liked him in these days. His Red Bull days, not so much but he was always a driver I supported.

[Enforcer]

David Coulthard

Raw Pace - 7.0
He was slower than Hill (he only got near Hill in 95 because Hill started to crack up in the 2nd half of the season and make a lot of mistakes), slower than Hakkinen, slower than Raikkonen and slower than Webber. Mitigating circumstance is that all of those 4 are good drivers.

Strategic - 7.0
Rarely screwed up his strategy, but rarely won races of it either.

Personal Reliability - 7.5
Apart from his embarassing pitlane accident in 1995, and his utterly abhorrent 1999 where he couldn't string two decent performances together, Coulthard's always been a solid guy.

Entertainment Value - 6.5
Off the track - good. Nice to have drivers with some character.
On the track - zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. With maybe two or three exceptions.

Personal Sympathy - 3.5
I didn't care a whole lot for him. He was just there, and consistently slower than his team mates. Also, braking on the racing line in Belgium in 1998.

[FullMetalJack]

David Coulthard

Raw Pace - 7.0
A quick driver on his day, wasn't particularly noted for his speed but he was certainly no slouch behind the wheel.

Strategy - 7.0
Didn't make many mistakes from strategies as his strategy was usually quite sensible.

Personal Reliability - 8.0
A reliable driver, although 2008 didn't show that as he was in a lot of the incidents but prior to that, he was very reliable.

Entertainment Value - 10.0
Always one of the most entertaining drivers. Possibly the last driver who was a real character. Very funny, particularly his impression of Montoya before his last race.

Personal Sympathy - 10.0
I always felt sorry for him when he had to play second fiddle to Hakkinen and Raikkonen. I felt he deserved so much more from his long career and he should have won more than 13 races.

[Klon]

Unoffical F1 Rejects Driver's Ranking
1.: Michael Schumacher (8,29688)
2.: David Coulthard (7,70000)
3.: Juan Pablo Montoya (7,45833)
4.: Rubens Barrichello (7,35000)
5.: Ralf Schumacher (6,90625)
6.: Marc Gené (5,67500)

Unoffical F1 Rejects Emotional Driver's Ranking
1.: Michael Schumacher (7,93750)
2.: Rubens Barrichello (7,67000)
3.: David Coulthard (7,56000)
4.: Juan Pablo Montoya (7,33333)
5.: Ralf Schumacher (6,42500)
6.: Marc Gené (5,52000)

Unoffical F1 Rejects Raw Pace Ranking
1.: Michael Schumacher (9,37500)
2.: Juan Pablo Montoya (8,77778)
3.: Rubens Barrichello (7,60000)
4.: David Coulthard (7,30000)
5.: Ralf Schumacher (7,12500)
6.: Marc Gené (5,60000)

Unoffical F1 Rejects Strategic Ranking
1.: Michael Schumacher (8,87500)
2.: David Coulthard (7,20000)
3.: Ralf Schumacher (6,75000)
4.: Rubens Barrichello (6,30000)
5.: Juan Pablo Montoya (5,77778)
6.: Marc Gené (5,40000)

Unoffical F1 Rejects Reliability Ranking
1.: Michael Schumacher (9,12500)
2.: Marc Gené (8,20000)
3.: Ralf Schumacher (7,75000)
4.: Rubens Barrichello (7,55000)
5.: David Coulthard (7,40000)
6.: Juan Pablo Montoya (5,66667)

Unoffical F1 Rejects Entertainment Ranking
1.: Juan Pablo Montoya (9,61111)
2.: David Coulthard (8,90000)
3.: Rubens Barrichello (8,05000)
4.: Ralf Schumacher (6,00000)
5.: Michael Schumacher (5,81250)
6.: Marc Gené (3,50000)

Unoffical F1 Rejects Sympathy Ranking
1.: Rubens Barrichello (8,85000)
2.: David Coulthard (7,00000)
3.: Juan Pablo Montoya (6,83333)
4.: Michael Schumacher (6,50000)
5.: Marc Gené (4,90000)
6.: Ralf Schumacher (4,50000)


So, now we WILL have attention on this thread, it's time for another controversial one:

*** KIMI RÄIKKÖNEN ***

Raw Pace - 9.5
You need a fast man and don't have a Schumacher, Fangio or Senna being around? Call Kimi. Hungary 2005 pole and other fast efforts spring to mind.

Strategic Ability - 8.0
He had some good runs with strategy but, well, no Schumacher in this regard - although he make good uses of strategies based on him very far behind.

Personal Reliability - 5.0
Well, as a driver he wasn't so bad with this (although I doubt that all of his engine failures were only to the Mercedes engine), his off-track behaviour is absolutely bad PR and especially in the modern age of this sport totally out of line.

Entertainment Value - 1.0
I'm very sorry, but there is nothing remotely entertaining about this man. He can't give interviews to save his life, his off-track behaviour is at best causing shame... the only thing saving him from the Big Zero is the occasional awesome pass like against Fisichella in Japan 2005.

Personal Sympathy - 1.0
Never liked him, and propably never going to: as stated above, he's totally boring. Furthermore, his arrogant demands for insane and unjustified amounts of money forced him (thank God) out of the sport, just to remind him and anyone that no man is bigger than F1 as a whole. No sympathy lost here - I just don't give him 0, because I won't give anyone this judgement as I consider a "0" to be absolutely loathing that person, close to wishing him injuries or worse.

[Tealy]

This is an unusual one for me. Always the driver I supported at McLaren, I grew to hate him during his years at Ferrari but was hoping he would return to McLaren for 2010.

Kimi Raikkonen

Raw Pace - 9.5
I only don't give him a 10.0 because it's possible a faster driver will come around one day. In terms of raw pace he is one of the best if not THE best.

Strategic Ability - 8.0
However it was this (and his unreliable McLaren) that meant Schumacher could walk all over him. He could make a strategy work but he never did anything outstanding.

Personal Reliability - 6.0
He's had a lot of problems in this area over his career. Whether his numerous mechanical problems were the car or him overdriving it to destruction I'm not sure, but regardless he had a tendancy to slip up when the going got tough (Spa 08', Magany Cours 03' (I think)).

Entertainment Value - 7.5
I disagree with Klon's rating here, but agree with his points. For me Kimi's character was boring in the way he would hardly ever talk. But the constant PR attention off the track combined with his ability to say the wrong thing in front of the cameras made him amusing at times.

Personal Sympathy - 6.5
Had he not marched over to Ferrari with the sole goal of winning the title followed by years of little effort, this could have been a 9. I had a lot of sympathy for him during the Schumi dominance and the Alonso title years as I felt he didn't get to challenge for the title due to terrrible reliability issues. However he has since sold out and after winning his title has just sat back and watched the money roll in. My sympathy for him is all but gone these days.

[Collieafc]

Kimi Raikkonen

Raw Pace - 10
On his day, no one could come close. Shame he couldnt do it every day...

Strategic Ability - 7.0
He could make a given strategy work, but was that due to his tactical awareness, or just down to the fact he would be so fast anyway, regardless of strategy?

Personal Reliability - 5.0
Tough one. At McLaren his cars tended to kill themselves, but this wasnt present at Ferrari. But it didnt help that he didnt always have the right attitude for a race (esp after his 2007 title. Thats what really lost him points here)

Entertainment Value - 7.5
On track: hard to say. If he wanted to win, he was like Schumacher in that he would stop at nothing, which made things entertaining (Japan 05) but if he didnt, you hardly noticed him. On saying that, he did a generally ok job of bringing his Ferrari home in 09 (solid, if not spectacular, although one wonders if Ferrari could have found someone else who could do this cheaper). Hard to rate...
Off track: Apart from his "Im entitled to a top car" attitude, he was always a laugh, if only as he could give about what others thought (I remember his Monaco 05 on MBs gridwalk, same with Brazil). Although some may disagree, Formula 1 needs characters like him to give some much needed variety to driver personality.

Personal Sympathy - 2.5
Despite what I may have said above, I dont have much sympathy. NOBODY has the right to look down on any F1 seat like he did (Toyota...) let alone start dictating what his minimum wage should be. He should be aware that there would be thousands who would give anything just to be in F1. If you want a good car, you have to earn the right, and ok, he did earn the right to begin with, he hasnt done this for the last two seasons, especially on his wage. The only sympathy I give is that he was terribly let down by McLarens reliability and should have won at least one title with them.

Conclusion: Raikkonnens biggest enemy is himself, as through his lack of commitment he is squandering his own talent, especially his raw speed

[Phoenix]

KIMI RAIKKONEN

Raw pace-9.5 Incredibly quick, he has a sizeable number of FLs in his CV.
Strategic ability-8.0 I can't recall any big screw-up from him in this issue.
Personal reliability-6.5 His main weakness by far. If he would have been more iceman...
Entertaining value-8.5 It's always a funny guy to see; I think it has something to do with his speed.
Personal simpathy-8.0 I never had anything against him, and I'll always remember the "I was having a shite!" moment

[Enforcer]

Unoffical F1 Rejects Driver's Ranking
1.: Michael Schumacher (8,29688)
2.: David Coulthard (7,70000)
3.: Juan Pablo Montoya (7,45833)
4.: Rubens Barrichello (7,35000)
5.: Ralf Schumacher (6,90625)
6.: Marc Gené (5,67500)

"F***ing F1Rejects Fans, what a bunch of f***ing idiots" - Montoya


Kimi

Raw Pace 9.0 - Same as Montoya. Very quick guy. I don't think he was ever Schumacher or Senna quick though.

Strategic Ability 7.5 - No mistakes generally.

Personal Reliability 6.5 - On the track, he rarely (if ever) binned the car. Unfortunately, he gave a shite about racing only when it suited him.

Entertainment Value 7.5 - More often than not he'd give you a talking point.

Personal Sympathy 0.0 - That's right, I have no sympathy for Raikkonen. He got the drives and the championship his ability deserved, but as soon as he had his championship and $45m salary he decided he was too cool for it. Whilst I've said I don't think he was in Senna or Schumacher territory, there's no reason why he couldn't have won more than one Championship. Instead, Kimi will slide into insignificance rallying and driving touring cars. He needs F1 more than F1 needs him, if you ask me.

[Enforcer]

Can I ask how Michael Schumacher has an overall pace rating of 8.87 when no one gave him less than 9.0? I think that's been calculated incorrectly.

[Tealy]

Can I ask how Michael Schumacher has an overall pace rating of 8.87 when no one gave him less than 9.0? I think that's been calculated incorrectly.

My own quick calc came up with 9.375 for Schumacher

[Stramala]

Raw Pace - 10
There is one driver in every generation that is simply the fastest in the field. Nuvorali, Fangio, Senna and now Raikkonen. But the other 3 are better overall...

Strategic Ability - 8.0
Yes he had oodles of raw pace, but he didn't always use it at the right time, unlike Schumacher...

Personal Reliability - 4.0
His major flaw as a driver. Sure, he didn't have a rep for throwing it off the track into a wall, but maybe that was the problem in the first place. Seemed to need a load of motivation to use his raw speed to its full potential. Japan 2005 is an example of what he can do when is is fully motivated. Remember how often the McLaren would give up in qualifying, consigning him to last, and then waltz his way all the way up to the podium by the end? Those are the kind of drives we would have seen in every race with Schumacher-like commitment.

Entertainment Value - 0
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...what? Did you say something Kimi? "Mhmmnmnmnhm..." I didn't think so...zzzzzzzzzzzzz

Personal Sympathy - 0
Wasted an immense natural talent by being plain lazy. He sits on his ass all his life except for 5 hours of racing every second weekend and gets paid the most of all the drivers on the grid, an absolute crime when you compare his salary to Alonso's at Renault. Good riddance, I say.

[Collieafc]

Can I ask how Michael Schumacher has an overall pace rating of 8.87 when no one gave him less than 9.0? I think that's been calculated incorrectly.

Because somebody is Anti-Schumi, probably...

[BlindCaveSalamander]

Raw Pace - 10
When he could be bothered, he was simply unbeatable, simple as.

Strategic Ability - 8.5
He could usually make a strategy work very well, but not always

Personal Reliability - 6.5
His lack of motivation has really been his downfall. If he doesn't think he can win, then he's nowhere.

Entertainment Value - 9.0
"I was having a shite." Says it all for me.

Personal Sympathy - 9.5
Being my favourite driver from 2005 to mid-2008 may have coloured this a bit. In this day and age with drivers being more or less carbon copies out of the cockpit, it was great to see someone who just wanted to get on with the racing. I'll admit he drove himself out of F1, but I'll still miss him in 2010 nonetheless.

[Klon]

Can I ask how Michael Schumacher has an overall pace rating of 8.87 when no one gave him less than 9.0? I think that's been calculated incorrectly.

Because somebody is Anti-Schumi, probably...

Does this count as a conspiricy? If yes, I'm standing up. If not, I'll just beg for pardon for making a mistake, which will be corrected.

[Collieafc]

Can I ask how Michael Schumacher has an overall pace rating of 8.87 when no one gave him less than 9.0? I think that's been calculated incorrectly.

Because somebody is Anti-Schumi, probably...

Does this count as a conspiricy? If yes, I'm standing up. If not, I'll just beg for pardon for making a mistake, which will be corrected.

Potentially. I just dont like how (at least in the UK) there are a lot of people who seem to think EVERY win Schumacher gets was the result of him cheating. Yet they highly regard Senna despite how he was guilty of some similar moves (IMO Japan 1990 was more dangerous than Jerez 1997 purely due to the fact that it was at a faster speed.)

I am not trying to make Schumacher look better or Senna look worse (I am a Schumacher fan, but if somebody said Senna was better (esp faster) then I wouldnt challenge them or say they were wrong) It just angers me the double standards some people in the UK (the fact that Schu's 94 move was on a British Driver plus the fact that he is German works against him, whereas Prost being French and a lot of Brits will support anything if it stops France... (I am speaking from a UK only point of view here, though))

I have said my piece though (along with maybe a bit of a "fanboy" outburst? ), my original quote was meant to be somewhat sarcastic (so apologies if it was taken the wrong way) so I will get back on topic. Who's the next driver?

[dr-baker]

Personally, as a Brit, my opinion is that Alain Prost was the greatest driver of all time followed by Fangio. I don't condone cheating so never rated Schumacher or Senna as higely as Prost.

[Enforcer]

Potentially. I just dont like how (at least in the UK) there are a lot of people who seem to think EVERY win Schumacher gets was the result of him cheating. Yet they highly regard Senna despite how he was guilty of some similar moves (IMO Japan 1990 was more dangerous than Jerez 1997 purely due to the fact that it was at a faster speed.)

I am not trying to make Schumacher look better or Senna look worse (I am a Schumacher fan, but if somebody said Senna was better (esp faster) then I wouldnt challenge them or say they were wrong) It just angers me the double standards some people in the UK (the fact that Schu's 94 move was on a British Driver plus the fact that he is German works against him, whereas Prost being French and a lot of Brits will support anything if it stops France... (I am speaking from a UK only point of view here, though))

I have said my piece though (along with maybe a bit of a "fanboy" outburst? ), my original quote was meant to be somewhat sarcastic (so apologies if it was taken the wrong way) so I will get back on topic. Who's the next driver?

Klon did give Schumi a 10 for pace and an 8.5 for Personal Sympathy... I think it was just an error.

[Stramala]

Personally, as a Brit, my opinion is that Alain Prost was the greatest driver of all time followed by Fangio. I don't condone cheating so never rated Schumacher or Senna as higely as Prost.

I beg to differ...
JIM CLARK

Raw Pace 10.0
Strategy 10.0
Personal Reliability 10.0
Entertainment Value 10.0
Personal Sympathy 10.0

[dr-baker]

Personally, as a Brit, my opinion is that Alain Prost was the greatest driver of all time followed by Fangio. I don't condone cheating so never rated Schumacher or Senna as higely as Prost.

I beg to differ...
JIM CLARK

Raw Pace 10.0
Strategy 10.0
Personal Reliability 10.0
Entertainment Value 10.0
Personal Sympathy 10.0

Fair enough.

[BlindCaveSalamander]

Personally, as a Brit, my opinion is that Alain Prost was the greatest driver of all time followed by Fangio. I don't condone cheating so never rated Schumacher or Senna as higely as Prost.

I beg to differ...
JIM CLARK

Raw Pace 10.0
Strategy 10.0
Personal Reliability 10.0
Entertainment Value 10.0
Personal Sympathy 10.0

Ditto for me.

[Collieafc]

Personally, as a Brit, my opinion is that Alain Prost was the greatest driver of all time followed by Fangio. I don't condone cheating so never rated Schumacher or Senna as higely as Prost.

I beg to differ...
JIM CLARK

Raw Pace 10.0
Strategy 10.0
Personal Reliability 10.0
Entertainment Value 10.0
Personal Sympathy 10.0

Cant challenge that!

Apologies Klon

[Klon]

Unoffical F1 Rejects Driver's Ranking
1.: Michael Schumacher (8,29688)
2.: David Coulthard (7,70000)
3.: Juan Pablo Montoya (7,45833)
4.: Rubens Barrichello (7,35000)
5.: Kimi Räikkönen (7,25000)
6.: Ralf Schumacher (6,90625)
7.: Marc Gené (5,67500)

Unoffical F1 Rejects Emotional Driver's Ranking
1.: Michael Schumacher (7,93750)
2.: Rubens Barrichello (7,67000)
3.: David Coulthard (7,56000)
4.: Juan Pablo Montoya (7,33333)
5.: Kimi Räikkönen (6,58571)
6.: Ralf Schumacher (6,42500)
7.: Marc Gené (5,52000)

Unoffical F1 Rejects Raw Pace Ranking
1.: Kimi Räikkönen (9,64286)
2.: Michael Schumacher (9,37500)
3.: Juan Pablo Montoya (8,77778)
4.: Rubens Barrichello (7,60000)
5.: David Coulthard (7,30000)
6.: Ralf Schumacher (7,12500)
7.: Marc Gené (5,60000)

Unoffical F1 Rejects Strategic Ranking
1.: Michael Schumacher (8,87500)
2.: Kimi Räikkönen (7,85714)
3.: David Coulthard (7,20000)
4.: Ralf Schumacher (6,75000)
5.: Rubens Barrichello (6,30000)
6.: Juan Pablo Montoya (5,77778)
7.: Marc Gené (5,40000)

Unoffical F1 Rejects Reliability Ranking
1.: Michael Schumacher (9,12500)
2.: Marc Gené (8,20000)
3.: Ralf Schumacher (7,75000)
4.: Rubens Barrichello (7,55000)
5.: David Coulthard (7,40000)
6.: Juan Pablo Montoya (5,66667)
7.: Kimi Räikkönen (5,64286)

Unoffical F1 Rejects Entertainment Ranking
1.: Juan Pablo Montoya (9,61111)
2.: David Coulthard (8,90000)
3.: Rubens Barrichello (8,05000)
4.: Ralf Schumacher (6,00000)
5.: Kimi Räikkönen (5,85714)
6.: Michael Schumacher (5,81250)
7.: Marc Gené (3,50000)

Unoffical F1 Rejects Sympathy Ranking
1.: Rubens Barrichello (8,85000)
2.: David Coulthard (7,00000)
3.: Juan Pablo Montoya (6,83333)
4.: Michael Schumacher (6,50000)
5.: Marc Gené (4,90000)
6.: Ralf Schumacher (4,50000)
7.: Kimi Räikkönen (3,92857)


And it keeps going on:

*** JARNO TRULLI ***

Raw Pace - 8.5
Extremely impressive in low-fuel situations, didn't get his reputation for being a good Qualifying driver for nothing.

Strategic Ability - 5.0
Ooooh ... he loses out on this one, the infamous Trulli trains are said enough. If a strategy depends on him driving on heavy and/or unusual fuel-loads, fail is at hand.

Personal Reliability - 7.5
Well, as a driver he wasn't so bad with this (although I doubt that all of his engine failures were only to the Mercedes engine), his off-track behaviour is absolutely bad PR and especially in the modern age of this sport totally out of line.

Entertainment Value - 4.0
Well, while he is not Mr. Entertainment, he can give you good scenes if he wants too ... although he ends up being the victim in these, I'm talking France 2004 here. Also acts like Abu Dhabi 2009 with his "prooving pics" made him a bit more interesting.

Personal Sympathy - 4.0
Well, normaly I wouldn't care too much about him, but he loses out on me because he dares to let himself be seen as better as Ralf Schumacher despite being beaten twice by him (that doesn't make sense and it doesn't have to) and for taking a possible space from Takuma Sato.

[Phoenix]

JARNO TRULLI

Raw pace-7.5
Strategic ability-5.5
Personal reliability-6.5
Entertaining value-5.0
Personal simpathy-6.0

[Stramala]

Raw pace - 8.0
Very fast over a single lap

Strategic ability - 1.0
All aboard the Trulli Train!

Personal reliability-7.0
Safe pair of hands...usually.

Entertaining value - 3.5
Aside from the odd skit (Brazil 09 for example) he's not really that entertaining.

Personal sympathy - 4.5
Don't like him that much, but having to be team-mate to Ralf must have been painful.

[BlindCaveSalamander]

JARNO TRULLI

Raw pace-8.5
One of the fastest drivers in F1 over a single lap.

Strategic ability-4.5
Dear, oh dear, oh dear. The fact that people take the 'Trulli train' into account for strategies just says it all in my view.

Personal reliability-6.5
I can't remember him being particularly notable either way for this.

Entertaining value-3.5
The only things I can remember him for are his infamous Trulli trains, and his crash with Sutil this year.

Personal sympathy-2.0
Used to quite like him, but now I have no time for him after his run-in with Sutil. He's had plenty of opportunities to show why he deserves to be in F1 this long, and has duly failed to impress. Why is he at Lotus, again?

[Enforcer]

Raikkonen has more raw pace than Schumacher? That's really funny guys.

Trulli -

Raw Pace 7.5 - He's quick in qualifying, but rarely in the race, which is why I'm not giving him a higher mark. A quick single lap in qualifying doesn't make you top-driver quick if you do fifty slow laps in the race.

Strategic Ability 4.5 - Fuel Heavy. Hold up cars in the first phase. ???????. Win race. Too bad he hasn't got the question marked bit right in quite some time.

Personal Reliability 7.5 - Generally doesn't ditch the car.

Entertainment Value 4.0 - He's actually relatively exciting to watch behind the wheel in his own right, but a year and a bit of Trulli trains bring his mark back down.

Personal Sympathy 4.0 - I have a soft spot for him as a former Jordan pilot, but... Trulli trains. So many races ruined...

[tristan1117]

Jarno Trulli

Raw Pace-7.0 Dead slow in races, but a really good qualifier. Toyota got lucky with Glock, a driver who can race but not qualify, Trulli a guy who can qualify and not race.

Strategic Ability-5.0 1-stop strategies are his friend.

Personal Reliability- 8.5 He's pretty reliable and mostly finishes the races he enters but has the ability to cause controversial crashes like in Monza 2000 and Brazil 2009.

Entertainment Value-3.5 Bland outside of F1 and in F1.

Personal Sympathy-6.5 He was OK, but he never was my favorite driver.

[Wizzie]

...has the ability to cause controversial crashes like in Monza 2000...

Didn't Frentzen cause that one by forgetting how to brake?

[Tealy]

*** JARNO TRULLI ***

Raw Pace - 7.5
Impressively quick with sub-par cars. Sadly he couldn't carry speed into the race itself until recent years.

Strategic Ability - 4.0
For someone who was quick on low fuel, why did he never dare a 3 stop strategy? Always on the 1 stops resulting in everyones favourite type of train.

Personal Reliability - 8.5
Lotus have hired him for this in my opinion. He can be trusted to bring the car home in one piece. He is a good development driver too.

Entertainment Value - 5.5
Trulli himself isn't entertaining. But indirectly he could turn a race on it's head with his trains. His qualifying is always good to watch too.

Personal Sympathy - 3.0
I liked him in his early days but the guy has had plenty of chances in F1 and hasn't made a whole lot out of it. As has been said before he is stopping a more interesting (perhaps Japanese) driver getting an F1 seat.

[Klon]

Unoffical F1 Rejects Driver's Ranking
1.: Michael Schumacher (8,29688)
2.: David Coulthard (7,70000)
3.: Juan Pablo Montoya (7,45833)
4.: Rubens Barrichello (7,35000)
5.: Kimi Räikkönen (7,25000)
6.: Ralf Schumacher (6,90625)
7.: Jarno Trulli (5,89286)
8.: Marc Gené (5,67500)

Unoffical F1 Rejects Emotional Driver's Ranking
1.: Michael Schumacher (7,93750)
2.: Rubens Barrichello (7,67000)
3.: David Coulthard (7,56000)
4.: Juan Pablo Montoya (7,33333)
5.: Kimi Räikkönen (6,58571)
6.: Ralf Schumacher (6,42500)
7.: Jarno Trulli (5,57143)
8.: Marc Gené (5,52000)

Unoffical F1 Rejects Raw Pace Ranking
1.: Kimi Räikkönen (9,64286)
2.: Michael Schumacher (9,37500)
3.: Juan Pablo Montoya (8,77778)
4.: Jarno Trulli (7,78571)
5.: Rubens Barrichello (7,60000)
6.: David Coulthard (7,30000)
7.: Ralf Schumacher (7,12500)
8.: Marc Gené (5,60000)

Unoffical F1 Rejects Strategic Ranking
1.: Michael Schumacher (8,87500)
2.: Kimi Räikkönen (7,85714)
3.: David Coulthard (7,20000)
4.: Ralf Schumacher (6,75000)
5.: Rubens Barrichello (6,30000)
6.: Juan Pablo Montoya (5,77778)
7.: Marc Gené (5,40000)
8.: Jarno Trulli (4,21429)

Unoffical F1 Rejects Reliability Ranking
1.: Michael Schumacher (9,12500)
2.: Marc Gené (8,20000)
3.: Ralf Schumacher (7,75000)
4.: Rubens Barrichello (7,55000)
5.: Jarno Trulli (7,42857)
6.: David Coulthard (7,40000)
7.: Juan Pablo Montoya (5,66667)
8.: Kimi Räikkönen (5,64286)

Unoffical F1 Rejects Entertainment Ranking
1.: Juan Pablo Montoya (9,61111)
2.: David Coulthard (8,90000)
3.: Rubens Barrichello (8,05000)
4.: Ralf Schumacher (6,00000)
5.: Kimi Räikkönen (5,85714)
6.: Michael Schumacher (5,81250)
7.: Jarno Trulli (4,14286)
8.: Marc Gené (3,50000)

Unoffical F1 Rejects Sympathy Ranking
1.: Rubens Barrichello (8,85000)
2.: David Coulthard (7,00000)
3.: Juan Pablo Montoya (6,83333)
4.: Michael Schumacher (6,50000)
5.: Marc Gené (4,90000)
6.: Ralf Schumacher (4,50000)
7.: Jarno Trulli (4,28571)
8.: Kimi Räikkönen (3,92857)


Merry Christmas and much joy with a World Champion:

*** JACQUES VILLENEUVE ***

Raw Pace - 8.0
He has got it, if you look at things like his pole run at the beginning of 1997 or his sixth places on the grid in the 1999 Spanish Grand Prix and the 2000 Canadian Grand Prix

Strategic Ability - 7.5
Just like with many other above average drivers; VIL can make a good strategy work but not among the legends who can turn "bad" strategies into victories

Personal Reliability - 6.0
Had his brain fades and crashes and his driving style certainly didn't help the BAR 001, but he was also able to pick up pieces ... I'm looking at you, Hungaroring.

Entertainment Value - 9.0
Oh boy, Villeneuve is most certainly not boring. The eternal conflict with Michael Schumacher on and off the track along with some nice passes and of course the top-class music ( ) produced and sang by him ... he knows how to turn F1 in an interesting way.

Personal Sympathy - 9.5
I guess my ratings gave it away a bit, but I really consider him to be a good driver and a good World Champion ... he, just like Sato, simply HAS to get a drive for 2010.

[Stramala]

JV

Raw Pace - 0.0
Slow as hell

Strategic Ability - 0.0
He could screw up a perfect strategy with ease

Personal Reliability - 0.0
B.A.R needed him to do what Schumacher did for Ferrari and (later) Coulthard for Red Bull - and failed miserably.

Entertainment Value - 6.0
Had some entertainment value from being a complete d*ckhead.

Personal Sympathy - 0.0
Hate the stupid idiot...worst world champion ever. Much worse than Button. Lived off his daddy's name like Piquet Jr. and Dale Earnhardt Jr. in NASCAR.

[Phoenix]

JACQUES VILLENEUVE

Raw pace-7.5 (His BAR stints post-2000 make his note decrease)
Strategic ability-7.0
Personal reliability-7.0
Entertaining value-8.5 (4.5 if I count his singing career)
Personal simpathy-5.0 (3.0 if I count his singing career)

[BlindCaveSalamander]

Raw Pace - 7.0
Quite good, but after 2000/2001, he stopped being noteworthy

Strategic ability - 6.5
I can't remember him doing anything particularly outstanding as regards strategies

Personal reliability - 4.5
He needs to be nurtured in order to get the best of him, and now, I would say it's not worth the bother. Message to team owners - go for Sato instead.

Entertainment value - 6.0
Same as Kostas.

Personal sympathy - 1.0
Never cared for him in the first place, but now, he's just wasting everyone's time and making a damn fool of himself in the process. Hang up the helmet, Jacques, your time's up.

[Collieafc]

Jacques Villeneuve

Raw Pace - 3.0
The fact he never led a single lap after his 1997 title says it all...

Strategic Ability - 5.0
Average really. Nothing more, nothing less

Personal Reliability - 7.0
He was very reliable (96, 97, 2000) or reliably slow

Entertainment Value - 3.0
Was funny seeing him think he was popular, when in fact we were laughing AT him instead of with him

Personal Sympathy - 1.0
A prime example of how a really good car can make any driver look good and win a title. The instant he was out of a guaenteed winner, he was at best, average (2000 aside)

[Enforcer]

JV

Raw Pace - 7.5 Pretty quick guy when motivated. He kept up with Hill (who I rate) out of the box in 1996, won the Championship in 1997 and was quicker than Frentzen (another driver I rate) in 1998, so... good mark for Jacques.

Strategic Ability - 6.5 Don't recall him ever screwing it up.

Personal Reliability - 4.0 Not a crasher, but I'm marking him down for the way he fell away when he stopped getting enough cuddles at BAR.

Entertainment Value - 7.0 A bit of personality and a good racer in his Williams days.

Personal Sympathy - 3.5 I have a bit of sympathy because his talent level deserved more than one title, but the whole BAR meltdown was largely his own doing imho, plus I backed both Hill and Schumacher against him for the WDC, dragging his mark riiiiiiiiiiight back down.