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by **Stramala** » 01 Jul 2010, 22:50

watka wrote:
Bleu wrote:1968
Jacky Ickx 38 (2 wins, 2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Pedro Rodriguez 36 (2 wins, 3 2nd)
Jean-Pierre Beltoise 25 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd, 1 4th, 1 5th, 1 6th)
Jo Siffert 24 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Chris Amon 18 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Piers Courage 15 (3 3rd)
Jackie Oliver 14 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Vic Elford 14 (2 2nd)
Richard Attwood 13 (1 win)
Dan Gurney 12 (1 win)
Ludovico Scarfiotti 10 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Brian Redman 9 (1 win)
Johnny Servoz-Gavin 9 (1 win)
Lucien Bianchi 9 (1 2nd)
Jo Bonnier 6 (1 3rd)
John Love 3 (1 4th)
Silvio Moser 3 (1 4th)
Hubert Hahne 2 (1 5th)
Henri Pescarolo 1 (1 6th)

Maximum points for the season = 90. And no one is getting even half of that. Amon's victory happened already in the first race, and there were some other quite obscure winners in this season. I also found Beltoise's results so nice that had to mention them all.

WHO THE HELL IS BRIAN REDMAN?!?

English sportscar driver who prefered racing McLarens in CanAm than F1.

by **Bleu** » 01 Jul 2010, 23:11

Redman also has corner named after him in the former F1 circuit Aida, now known as Okayama Circuit.

by **BlindCaveSalamander** » 02 Jul 2010, 00:59

Bleu wrote:1970
Clay Regazzoni 54 (6 wins)
Chris Amon 40 (1 win, 4 2nd)
Pedro Rodriguez 38 (1 win, 2 2nd, 3 3rd)
Henri Pescarolo 36 (1 win, 2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Rolf Stommelen 24 (3 2nd)
Emerson Fittipaldi 21 (2 wins)
John Miles 17 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Francois Cevert 13 (2 3rd)
Mario Andretti 9 (1 win)
Ronnie Peterson 9 (1 3rd)
Jo Siffert 8 (1 4th)
Johnny Servoz-Gavin 6 (1 2nd)
Ignazio Giunti 6 (1 3rd)
Jackie Oliver 6 (2 4th)
John Love 4 (1 3rd)
Dan Gurney 4 (1 3rd)
Reine Wisell 4 (1 3rd)
Peter Gethin 3 (1 4th)
Andrea de Adamich 2 (1 5th)
Derek Bell 2 (1 5th)
Peter de Klerk 1 (1 6th)

So champion has nothing else but wins. And we got actual reject winning the race!

My favourite part about this is that not only was this Clay Regazzoni's first season in F1, but he also only came in mid-season.

by **tommykl** » 02 Jul 2010, 02:09

John Miles won the first race, IIRC, after actually finishing 5th, his only ever points finish.

by **Aerond** » 02 Jul 2010, 04:49

Anybody want to bet on these seasons?? :

1990
1994
1997
2000
2004
2009

by **shinji** » 02 Jul 2010, 05:07

Aerond wrote:Anybody want to bet on these seasons?? :

1990 - Alesi?
1994 - Hakkinen?
1997 - Frentzen
2000 - Barrichello? Coulthard?
2004 - Button
2009 - Vettel

by **watka** » 02 Jul 2010, 06:19

shinji wrote:
Aerond wrote:Anybody want to bet on these seasons?? :

1990 - Alesi?
1994 - Hakkinen?
1997 - Frentzen
2000 - Barrichello? Coulthard?
2004 - Button
2009 - Vettel

My guesses:

1990 - Boutsen
1994 - Hakkinen
1997 - Frentzen
2000 - Barrichello
2004 - Button
2009 - Vettel

by **Bleu** » 02 Jul 2010, 16:35

1972
Emerson Fittipaldi 72 (8 wins)
Peter Revson 36 (1 win, 3 2nd, 2 3rd)
Francois Cevert 25 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Chris Amon 20 (1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Mike Hailwood 17 (1 2nd, 2 3rd, 1 4th)
Howden Ganley 16 (1 win)
Carlos Reutemann 14 (2 2nd)
Tim Schenken 13 (1 win)
Brian Redman 13 (2 2nd)
Mario Andretti 12 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Andrea de Adamich 9 (1 2nd)
Wilson Fittipaldi 9 (1 3rd)
Carlos Pace 8 (2 4th)
Niki Lauda 6 (1 4th)
Henri Pescarolo 4 (1 3rd)
Patrick Depailler 4 (1 3rd)
Arturo Merzario 4 (1 4th)
Mike Beuttler 4 (1 4th)
Helmut Marko 4 (2 5th)
Peter Gethin 3 (1 4th)
Jody Scheckter 3 (1 4th)
Reine Wisell 2 (1 5th)
Dave Walker 1 (1 6th)
Sam Posey 1 (1 6th)

Total domination this time. Dave Walker in the points and Helmut Marko unrejectified!

by **Bleu** » 02 Jul 2010, 21:49

1973
Francois Cevert 84 (8 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Peter Revson 63 (4 wins, 1 2nd, 5 3rd)
Carlos Reutemann 37 (4 2nd, 1 3rd)
James Hunt 30 (1 wins, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Arturo Merzario 25 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Carlos Pace 22 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Howden Ganley 15 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Mike Beuttler 13 (3 4th)
Andrea de Adamich 12 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Wilson Fittipaldi 11 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
George Follmer 11 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Niki Lauda 10 (2 3rd)
Jackie Oliver 9 (1 2nd)
Mike Hailwood 9 (2 4th)
Gijs van Lennep 6 (2 4th)
Nanni Galli 3 (1 4th)
Chris Amon 3 (1 4th)
Jochen Mass 3 (1 4th)
Henri Pescarolo 2 (1 5th)
David Purley 2 (1 5th)
Jean-Pierre Jarier 2 (1 5th)
Jody Scheckter 1 (1 6th)

Tragic end for the season as champion dies.

by **Ferrim** » 03 Jul 2010, 04:22

watka wrote:
shinji wrote:
Aerond wrote:Anybody want to bet on these seasons?? :

1990 - Alesi?
1994 - Hakkinen?
1997 - Frentzen
2000 - Barrichello? Coulthard?
2004 - Button
2009 - Vettel

My guesses:

1990 - Boutsen
1994 - Hakkinen
1997 - Frentzen
2000 - Barrichello
2004 - Button
2009 - Vettel

I was wondering why the hell did you put Häkkinen in '94, "that's Hill's title!", but then I realized Senna and Prost wouldn't be there for 1993 so that should be Hill's.

But I'm really intrigued about 1995: with Schumacher, Hill and Häkkinen out of the equation, it should be either Berger or Alesi, but these two maybe have already been proclamed champions. I'm pretty sure Berger has already been by this point, Alesi would be harder (maybe '91?). Alesi being a WDC is enough reason to go mad, but if this is the case, then Herbert would be the WDC for '95. Herbert, for God's sake!

That would be the end of the world as we know it :mrgreen:

by **shinji** » 03 Jul 2010, 05:09

Ferrim wrote:I was wondering why the hell did you put Häkkinen in '94, "that's Hill's title!", but then I realized Senna and Prost wouldn't be there for 1993 so that should be Hill's.

But I'm really intrigued about 1995: with Schumacher, Hill and Häkkinen out of the equation, it should be either Berger or Alesi, but these two maybe have already been proclamed champions. I'm pretty sure Berger has already been by this point, Alesi would be harder (maybe '91?). Alesi being a WDC is enough reason to go mad, but if this is the case, then Herbert would be the WDC for '95. Herbert, for God's sake!

That would be the end of the world as we know it

Coulthard.

by **BlindCaveSalamander** » 03 Jul 2010, 06:12

shinji wrote:
Ferrim wrote:I was wondering why the hell did you put Häkkinen in '94, "that's Hill's title!", but then I realized Senna and Prost wouldn't be there for 1993 so that should be Hill's.

But I'm really intrigued about 1995: with Schumacher, Hill and Häkkinen out of the equation, it should be either Berger or Alesi, but these two maybe have already been proclamed champions. I'm pretty sure Berger has already been by this point, Alesi would be harder (maybe '91?). Alesi being a WDC is enough reason to go mad, but if this is the case, then Herbert would be the WDC for '95. Herbert, for God's sake!

That would be the end of the world as we know it

Coulthard.

Herbert and Coulthard were pretty evenly matched throughout the season, with Coulthard ahead in the end. However, it looks like Johnny has a bit more to gain, as Coulthard has more retirements, and Herbert has 3 7th places up his sleeve, so the championship could go either way. If it does go to Herbert, that would make that crash in Australia even more glaring.

We might get a similar situation in a few other years as well, where it's close between the top non-champions.

by **watka** » 03 Jul 2010, 07:36

Bleu wrote:1973
Francois Cevert 84 (8 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Peter Revson 63 (4 wins, 1 2nd, 5 3rd)
Carlos Reutemann 37 (4 2nd, 1 3rd)
James Hunt 30 (1 wins, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Arturo Merzario 25 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Carlos Pace 22 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Howden Ganley 15 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Mike Beuttler 13 (3 4th)
Andrea de Adamich 12 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Wilson Fittipaldi 11 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
George Follmer 11 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Niki Lauda 10 (2 3rd)
Jackie Oliver 9 (1 2nd)
Mike Hailwood 9 (2 4th)
Gijs van Lennep 6 (2 4th)
Nanni Galli 3 (1 4th)
Chris Amon 3 (1 4th)
Jochen Mass 3 (1 4th)
Henri Pescarolo 2 (1 5th)
David Purley 2 (1 5th)
Jean-Pierre Jarier 2 (1 5th)
Jody Scheckter 1 (1 6th)

Tragic end for the season as champion dies.

The championship he surely would have eventually won.

by **tommykl** » 03 Jul 2010, 16:12

Bleu wrote:1972
Emerson Fittipaldi 72 (8 wins)
Peter Revson 36 (1 win, 3 2nd, 2 3rd)
Francois Cevert 25 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Chris Amon 20 (1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Mike Hailwood 17 (1 2nd, 2 3rd, 1 4th)
Howden Ganley 16 (1 win)
Carlos Reutemann 14 (2 2nd)
Tim Schenken 13 (1 win)
Brian Redman 13 (2 2nd)
Mario Andretti 12 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Andrea de Adamich 9 (1 2nd)
Wilson Fittipaldi 9 (1 3rd)
Carlos Pace 8 (2 4th)
Niki Lauda 6 (1 4th)
Henri Pescarolo 4 (1 3rd)
Patrick Depailler 4 (1 3rd)
Arturo Merzario 4 (1 4th)
Mike Beuttler 4 (1 4th)
Helmut Marko 4 (2 5th)
Peter Gethin 3 (1 4th)
Jody Scheckter 3 (1 4th)
Reine Wisell 2 (1 5th)
Dave Walker 1 (1 6th)
Sam Posey 1 (1 6th)

Total domination this time. Dave Walker in the points and Helmut Marko unrejectified!

Also, Sam Posey scores a point, Mike Beuttler not only scores points, but also unrejectifies himself (the first openly gay driver to do this). Also, notice the wins by obscure drivers such as Howden Ganley and Tim Schenken of all people

by **Bleu** » 05 Jul 2010, 16:20

1974
Jody Scheckter 67 (5 wins, 2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Niki Lauda 51 (5 wins, 1 2nd)
Carlos Reutemann 46 (3 wins, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Patrick Depailler 35 (2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Mike Hailwood 33 (4 2nd, 2 3rd)
James Hunt 25 (1 win, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Carlos Pace 24 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
John Watson 19 (2 3rd)
Hans-Joachim Stuck 12 (1 2nd, 2 4th)
Jean-Pierre Jarier 12 (1 2nd, 1 4th)
Arturo Merzario 10 (1 2nd)
Tom Pryce 8 (1 3rd)
Guy Edwards 6 (1 4th)
Mario Andretti 4 (1 3rd)
Vittorio Brambilla 4 (1 4th)
David Hobbs 4 (2 5th)
Brian Redman 3 (1 4th)
Tim Schenken 3 (1 4th)
Howden Ganley 2 (1 5th)
Henri Pescarolo 2 (2 6th)
Tom Belsø 1 (1 6th)
Rikky von Opel 1 (1 6th)
Helmut Koinigg 1 (1 6th)
Jochen Mass 1 (1 6th)

by **tommykl** » 05 Jul 2010, 17:03

Bleu wrote:1974
Jody Scheckter 67 (5 wins, 2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Niki Lauda 51 (5 wins, 1 2nd)
Carlos Reutemann 46 (3 wins, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Patrick Depailler 35 (2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Mike Hailwood 33 (4 2nd, 2 3rd)
James Hunt 25 (1 win, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Carlos Pace 24 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
John Watson 19 (2 3rd)
Hans-Joachim Stuck 12 (1 2nd, 2 4th)
Jean-Pierre Jarier 12 (1 2nd, 1 4th)
Arturo Merzario 10 (1 2nd)
Tom Pryce 8 (1 3rd)
Guy Edwards 6 (1 4th)
Mario Andretti 4 (1 3rd)
Vittorio Brambilla 4 (1 4th)
David Hobbs 4 (2 5th)
Brian Redman 3 (1 4th)
Tim Schenken 3 (1 4th)
Howden Ganley 2 (1 5th)
Henri Pescarolo 2 (2 6th)
Tom Belsø 1 (1 6th)
Rikky von Opel 1 (1 6th)
Helmut Koinigg 1 (1 6th)
Jochen Mass 1 (1 6th)

So *pops knuckles* we have two rejects unrejectified (David Hobbs, Guy Edwards), 2 more profiled rejects scoring points (Tom Belsø, Rikky von Opel) and a reject who can never be profiled as well (Helmut Koinigg).

by **Bleu** » 05 Jul 2010, 19:50

1975
Two races stopped early, so some half points.

Niki Lauda 75 (6 wins, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Carlos Reutemann 52 (2 wins, 5 2nd*, 1 3rd)
James Hunt 41 (2 wins, 3 2nd*, 2 3rd)
Carlos Pace 33 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Jochen Mass 29 (1 win*, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Patrick Depailler 22 (1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Tom Pryce 13 (1 3rd*)
Vittorio Brambilla 12 (1 win*)
Mario Andretti 9 (1 3rd, 1 4th, 1 5th)
Mark Donohue 9 (1 3rd, 1 4th, 2 6th)
Jacques Laffite 6 (1 2nd)
Tony Brise 4,5 (1 5th)
Jean-Pierre Jarier 2 (1 3rd*)
Alan Jones 2 (1 5th)
Hans-Joachim Stuck 2 (1 5th)
John Watson 1,5 (2 6th*)
Lella Lombardi 1 (1 5th*)
Rolf Stommelen 1 (1 6th)
Gijs van Lennep 1 (1 6th)
Bob Evans 1 (1 6th)
Torsten Palm 1 (1 6th)
Harald Ertl 1 (1 6th)

Interestingly, both Mass and Brambilla got 1st and 4th in the stopped races, so they didn't have half points in the table.

by **dr-baker** » 05 Jul 2010, 20:49

So Lella Lombardi has not unrejectified herself - as close as possible without doing the deed!

by **BlindCaveSalamander** » 05 Jul 2010, 22:05

Bleu wrote:1974
Jody Scheckter 67 (5 wins, 2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Niki Lauda 51 (5 wins, 1 2nd)
Carlos Reutemann 46 (3 wins, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Patrick Depailler 35 (2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Mike Hailwood 33 (4 2nd, 2 3rd)
James Hunt 25 (1 win, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Carlos Pace 24 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
John Watson 19 (2 3rd)
Hans-Joachim Stuck 12 (1 2nd, 2 4th)
Jean-Pierre Jarier 12 (1 2nd, 1 4th)
Arturo Merzario 10 (1 2nd)
Tom Pryce 8 (1 3rd)
Guy Edwards 6 (1 4th)
Mario Andretti 4 (1 3rd)
Vittorio Brambilla 4 (1 4th)
David Hobbs 4 (2 5th)
Brian Redman 3 (1 4th)
Tim Schenken 3 (1 4th)
Howden Ganley 2 (1 5th)
Henri Pescarolo 2 (2 6th)
Tom Belsø 1 (1 6th)
Rikky von Opel 1 (1 6th)
Helmut Koinigg 1 (1 6th)
Jochen Mass 1 (1 6th)

Gotta feel for Mike Hailwood - 5 2nd place finishes is just cruel.

by **tommykl** » 05 Jul 2010, 22:24

Brise and van Lennep are unrejectified, Palm, Ertl and Evans score points.

by **Bleu** » 05 Jul 2010, 22:46

One more for today, it's 1976
James Hunt 74 (7 wins, 2 3rd)
Patrick Depailler 62 (4 wins, 4 2nd)
Jacques Laffite 37 (2 wins, 3 2nd)
Jochen Mass 37 (3 2nd)
John Watson 35 (2 wins, 2 3rd)
Tom Pryce 27 (2 2nd)
Mario Andretti 26 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Carlos Pace 19 (1 3rd)
Alan Jones 16 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Hans-Joachim Stuck 15 (1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Gunnar Nilsson 15 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Vittorio Brambilla 9 (1 3rd)
Jean-Pierre Jarier 8 (1 4th)
Carlos Reutemann 6 (1 3rd)
Chris Amon 5 (1 4th)
Harald Ertl 3 (1 4th)
Renzo Zorzi 2 (1 5th)
Larry Perkins 2 (1 5th)
Rolf Stommelen 2 (1 5th)

Probably closer season on the top than you would think.

by **Bleu** » 06 Jul 2010, 18:08

1977
Carlos Reutemann 68 (3 wins, 4 2nd, 3 3rd)
Mario Andretti 54 (5 wins, 2 3rd)
Jochen Mass 42 (5 2nd, 2 3rd)
Jacques Laffite 37 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Patrick Depailler 35 (2 wins, 2 2nd)
Gunnar Nilsson 34 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Alan Jones 32 (1 win, 1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Hans-Joachim Stuck 28 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Vittorio Brambilla 20 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
John Watson 13 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Patrick Tambay 12 (1 2nd)
Carlos Pace 9 (1 win)
Jean-Pierre Jarier 6 (1 3rd)
Rupert Keegan 6 (1 4th)
Renzo Zorzi 4 (1 3rd)
Ingo Hoffmann 3 (1 4th)
Patrick Neve 3 (1 4th)
Vern Schuppan 2 (1 5th)
Riccardo Patrese 2 (1 5th)
Brett Lunger 2 (2 6th)
Brian Henton 1 (1 6th)
Harald Ertl 1 (1 6th)
Alex Ribeiro 1 (1 6th)
Danny Ongais 1 (1 6th)

Championship down to last race. Andretti retired early and Reutemann won.

Website · by **Wizzie** » 06 Jul 2010, 18:25

Bleu wrote:1976
Tom Pryce 27 (2 2nd)

Just goes to show that he was probably destined for future greatness like Cevert and Bellof

by **Bleu** » 06 Jul 2010, 22:44

1978
Mario Andretti 76 (8 wins)
John Watson 53 (2 wins, 4 2nd, 1 3rd)
Patrick Depailler 49 (3 wins, 3 2nd, 1 3rd)
Jacques Laffite 45 (3 2nd, 4 3rd)
Gilles Villeneuve 34 (1 win, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Patrick Tambay 27 (1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Riccardo Patrese 24 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Didier Pironi 22 (1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Alan Jones 17 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Jean-Pierre Jabouille 7 (1 2nd)
Jochen Mass 7 (1 3rd)
Hans-Joachim Stuck 6 (1 3rd)
Vittorio Brambilla 6 (2 4th)
Derek Daly 6 (2 4th)
Hector Rebaque 5 (1 4th)
Brett Lunger 4 (1 5th)
Bruno Giacomelli 3 (1 5th)
Rene Arnoux 2 (1 5th)
Jean-Pierre Jarier 1 (1 6th)
Rolf Stommelen 1 (1 6th)
Nelson Piquet 1 (1 6th)

Andretti is even more dominant than he actually was.

by **Pieman** » 07 Jul 2010, 02:00

Is that a win for Arrows in their first season I spy?

by **tommykl** » 07 Jul 2010, 02:05

Pieman wrote:Is that a win for Arrows in their first season I spy?

It most certainly is!

by **Aerond** » 07 Jul 2010, 03:44

tommykl wrote:
Pieman wrote:Is that a win for Arrows in their first season I spy?

It most certainly is!

I bet for a podium by Pedro Diniz later on!!

by **thehemogoblin** » 07 Jul 2010, 03:49

tommykl wrote:
Pieman wrote:Is that a win for Arrows in their first season I spy?

It most certainly is!

Well that takes all the fun out of rooting for them.

by **tommykl** » 07 Jul 2010, 04:33

Aerond wrote:
tommykl wrote:
Pieman wrote:Is that a win for Arrows in their first season I spy?

It most certainly is!

I bet for a podium by Pedro Diniz later on!!

Why stop at podiums?
I predict a win for Diniz, you heard it here first!

by **IdeFan** » 07 Jul 2010, 05:48

I thought about spinning this off into its own thread, but decided just to put it here:

How does this affect the constructor's championship? I'm applying the same rules as Bleu, so champion Drivers results are deleted, but champion teams continue to score.

The title wasn't awarded until 1958 so i'll start there. Compared to the driver's, the constructor's title rules have changed a lot over the years so i'll give a refresher every time it changes. For 1958 the rules were:

- Points awarded to constructors not teams. For the Argentine GP, Jean Behra was entered under the "Ken Kavanagh" team, but drove a Maserati, so Maserati score the points, not the team.
- Same points system as the drivers: 8,6,4,3,2
- The best finisher for each team scores points, if Ferrari come 1st and 2nd, and Vanwall come 3rd, Ferrari get 8 and Vanwall get 4, no one gets 6.
- Only The best 6 results count.

Vanwall 38 (4 wins, 1 2nd)
Cooper 34(+4) (2 wins, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Ferrari 31 (2 wins, 1 2nd 1 3rd)
BRM 31 (1 win, 2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Maserati 26 (1 win, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Lotus 10 (1 3rd)
Porsche 2

Without Moss's points, Vanwall suffered, but not as much as Ferrari, who were without Musso, Collins and most importantly Hawthorne. Cooper came agonisingly close to snatching the title, but were the only team to have to drop points, though they would have lost on count back anyway.

Amazingly Porsche scored two points! Considering they were running an F2 car, and without the talents of Brabham and Trintignant thats pretty impressive.

by **Bleu** » 07 Jul 2010, 16:39

I think you will run out of constructors at some point in that case.

And on with this, 1979
Gilles Villeneuve 54 (4 wins)
Jacques Laffite 44 (3 wins)
Alan Jones 43 (4 wins)
John Watson 31 (1 win)
Jean-Pierre Jarier 29 (4 2nd)
Didier Pironi 27 (1 2nd)
Patrick Depailler 25 (1 win)
Rene Arnoux 23 (1 win)
Jochen Mass 16 (1 3rd)
Nelson Piquet 12 (2 3rd)
Jean-Pierre Jabouille 1 (1 win)
Elio de Angelis 8 (2 4th)
Riccardo Patrese 6 (1 3rd)
Patrick Tambay 6 (2 4th)
Hans-Joachim Stuck 5 (2 5th)
Hector Rebaque 4 (1 5th)
Geoff Lees 2 (1 5th)
Ricardo Zunino 2 (1 5th)
Derek Daly 1 (1 6th)
Vittorio Brambilla 1 (1 6th)
Jan Lammers 1 (1 6th)

Put only best result(s) since this season had strange dropping scores rule, only four best of each half was counted so drivers lost even podium positions in the process. Anyway, Gilles wins the title he would have probably won had he not died.

by **Bleu** » 07 Jul 2010, 19:21

1980
Alan Jones 67 (5 wins, 4 2nd, 1 3rd)
Nelson Piquet 58 (3 wins, 3 2nd, 1 3rd)
Jacques Laffite 40 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Didier Pironi 39 (1 win, 3 2nd, 1 3rd)
Rene Arnoux 32 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Elio de Angelis 18 (1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Jean-Pierre Jarier 12 (3 4th)
Riccardo Patrese 11 (1 2nd)
Jochen Mass 10 (1 3rd)
Jean-Pierre Jabouille 9 (1 win)
John Watson 9 (2 3rd)
Keke Rosberg 9 (1 3rd, 1 4th, 1 5th)
Derek Daly 9 (1 3rd, 1 4th, 2 6th)
Alain Prost 9 (3 5th)
Bruno Giacomelli 5 (1 4th)
Hector Rebaque 4 (1 4th)
Marc Surer 2 (2 6th)

Jones had to drop one second place but it didn't affect too much.

by **Bleu** » 07 Jul 2010, 22:53

1981
Jacques Laffite 60 (5 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Nelson Piquet 59 (4 wins, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Alain Prost 48 (4 wins, 2 2nd)
John Watson 35 (1 win, 3 2nd)
Elio de Angelis 29 (1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Eddie Cheever 19 (1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Rene Arnoux 18 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Riccardo Patrese 17 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Didier Pironi 16 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Hector Rebaque 14 (2 3rd)
Nigel Mansell 13 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Bruno Giacomelli 12 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Marc Surer 9 (1 2nd)
Patrick Tambay 6 (1 3rd)
Andrea de Cesaris 5 (2 5th)
Chico Serra 3 (1 4th)
Jean-Pierre Jarier 2 (1 5th)
Slim Borgudd 2 (1 5th)
Eliseo Salazar 2 (1 5th)
Siegfried Stohr 2 (2 6th)
Derek Daly 2 (2 6th)

Surprise!

by **Aerond** » 08 Jul 2010, 00:39

Bleu wrote:1981
Jacques Laffite 60 (5 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Nelson Piquet 59 (4 wins, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Alain Prost 48 (4 wins, 2 2nd)
John Watson 35 (1 win, 3 2nd)
Elio de Angelis 29 (1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Eddie Cheever 19 (1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Rene Arnoux 18 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Riccardo Patrese 17 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Didier Pironi 16 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Hector Rebaque 14 (2 3rd)
Nigel Mansell 13 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Bruno Giacomelli 12 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Marc Surer 9 (1 2nd)
Patrick Tambay 6 (1 3rd)
Andrea de Cesaris 5 (2 5th)
Chico Serra 3 (1 4th)
Jean-Pierre Jarier 2 (1 5th)
Slim Borgudd 2 (1 5th)
Eliseo Salazar 2 (1 5th)
Siegfried Stohr 2 (2 6th)
Derek Daly 2 (2 6th)

Surprise!

Indeed!! What a surprise!! And Chico Serra unrejectified himself

by **BlindCaveSalamander** » 08 Jul 2010, 00:50

Bleu wrote:1981
Jacques Laffite 60 (5 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Nelson Piquet 59 (4 wins, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Alain Prost 48 (4 wins, 2 2nd)
John Watson 35 (1 win, 3 2nd)
Elio de Angelis 29 (1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Eddie Cheever 19 (1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Rene Arnoux 18 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Riccardo Patrese 17 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Didier Pironi 16 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Hector Rebaque 14 (2 3rd)
Nigel Mansell 13 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Bruno Giacomelli 12 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Marc Surer 9 (1 2nd)
Patrick Tambay 6 (1 3rd)
Andrea de Cesaris 5 (2 5th)
Chico Serra 3 (1 4th)
Jean-Pierre Jarier 2 (1 5th)
Slim Borgudd 2 (1 5th)
Eliseo Salazar 2 (1 5th)
Siegfried Stohr 2 (2 6th)
Derek Daly 2 (2 6th)

Surprise!

And now Piquet finds himself in the same position Carlos Reutemann was in, where, if the South African round had counted, he would've been champion.

by **Bleu** » 08 Jul 2010, 16:21

1982
Keke Rosberg 49 (2 wins, 2 2nd, 3 3rd)
John Watson 43 (2 wins, 2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Didier Pironi 42 (3 wins, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Alain Prost 36 (2 wins, 2 2nd)
Michele Alboreto 33 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Rene Arnoux 30 (2 wins, 2 2nd)
Patrick Tambay 28 (1 win, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Elio de Angelis 27 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Riccardo Patrese 24 (1 win, 2 2nd)
Nelson Piquet 21 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Eddie Cheever 16 (1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Derek Daly 10 (2 4th)
Nigel Mansell 9 (1 3rd)
Andrea de Cesaris 5 (1 3rd)
Mauro Baldi 5 (1 4th)
Jean-Pierre Jarier 4 (1 3rd)
Eliseo Salazar 3 (1 4th)
Chico Serra 3 (1 5th)
Marc Surer 3 (1 5th)
Bruno Giacomelli 3 (1 5th)
Manfred Winkelhock 2 (1 5th)
Jochen Mass 1 (1 6th)

Not very much changes to original results since only Lauda is missing from the regular drivers.

by **Bleu** » 08 Jul 2010, 22:06

1983
Alain Prost 64 (4 wins, 3 2nd)
Nelson Piquet 63 (4 wins, 2 2nd, 3 3rd)
Rene Arnoux 53 (3 wins, 3 2nd, 1 3rd)
Patrick Tambay 45 (1 win, 3 2nd, 3 3rd)
John Watson 26 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Eddie Cheever 23 (1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Andrea de Cesaris 15 (2 2nd)
Riccardo Patrese 13 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Derek Warwick 13 (2 4th)
Michele Alboreto 12 (1 win)
Nigel Mansell 12 (1 3rd)
Marc Surer 11 (2 3rd)
Danny Sullivan 5 (1 4th)
Mauro Baldi 5 (2 5th)
Johnny Cecotto 3 (1 4th)
Chico Serra 3 (3 6th)
Raul Boesel 2 (1 5th)
Thierry Boutsen 2 (1 5th)
Elio de Angelis 2 (1 5th)
Bruno Giacomelli 2 (2 6th)
Jean-Pierre Jarier 1 (1 6th)

Piquet loses it again!

by **Aerond** » 08 Jul 2010, 22:11

Bleu wrote:1983
Alain Prost 64 (4 wins, 3 2nd)
Nelson Piquet 63 (4 wins, 2 2nd, 3 3rd)
Rene Arnoux 53 (3 wins, 3 2nd, 1 3rd)
Patrick Tambay 45 (1 win, 3 2nd, 3 3rd)
John Watson 26 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Eddie Cheever 23 (1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Andrea de Cesaris 15 (2 2nd)
Riccardo Patrese 13 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Derek Warwick 13 (2 4th)
Michele Alboreto 12 (1 win)
Nigel Mansell 12 (1 3rd)
Marc Surer 11 (2 3rd)
Danny Sullivan 5 (1 4th)
Mauro Baldi 5 (2 5th)
Johnny Cecotto 3 (1 4th)
Chico Serra 3 (3 6th)
Raul Boesel 2 (1 5th)
Thierry Boutsen 2 (1 5th)
Elio de Angelis 2 (1 5th)
Bruno Giacomelli 2 (2 6th)
Jean-Pierre Jarier 1 (1 6th)

Piquet loses it again!

LOLOLOL!!

I was thinking about the chance he loses again in 1986 or 1987, but it´s extremely unlikely he will lose both.

by **Ferrim** » 08 Jul 2010, 22:27

With no Lauda and no Prost in '84, De Angelis will take the title... it's like the third killed driver who wins it under this system.

'85 should be Alboreto's, '86 and '87 will be Mansell's and Piquet's (can't say the order), '88 should be Senna's and then '89, '90 and '91 will be pretty interesting. Patrese, Boutsen and Berger start as the favourites, with Alesi an outside chance for '91.

Website · by **Wizzie** » 08 Jul 2010, 22:40

Ferrim wrote:With no Lauda and no Prost in '84, De Angelis will take the title... it's like the third killed driver who wins it under this system.

'85 should be Alboreto's, '86 and '87 will be Mansell's and Piquet's (can't say the order), '88 should be Senna's and then '89, '90 and '91 will be pretty interesting. Patrese, Boutsen and Berger start as the favourites, with Alesi an outside chance for '91.

If anything Alesi could be a outside chance for all 3 titles if the alternative seasons without the top teams are anything to go by (Wouldn't it be epic if he won the 89 title though? :mrgreen:

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