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Re: Rejects Of Gran Turismo

Postby Klon » 03 Jan 2011, 09:41

MinardiFan95 wrote:In GT5 it is very difficult to find the two cars for this challenge in the used car lot, as there are approximately 800 used cars and after each race 5 cars are added to the used car lot. Finding two specific cars is therefore the equivalent of finding a needle in a haystack. However I did buy two other Alfas, a 156 and a 147 GTA. A 147 Twinspark and Brera are available in the new car dealers, so maybe one of these should be added.


You know you are free to actually go to the dealer this time around, don't you? :?
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Re: Rejects Of Gran Turismo

Postby MinardiFan95 » 03 Jan 2011, 10:10

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MinardiFan95 wrote:In GT5 it is very difficult to find the two cars for this challenge in the used car lot, as there are approximately 800 used cars and after each race 5 cars are added to the used car lot. Finding two specific cars is therefore the equivalent of finding a needle in a haystack. However I did buy two other Alfas, a 156 and a 147 GTA. A 147 Twinspark and Brera are available in the new car dealers, so maybe one of these should be added.


You know you are free to actually go to the dealer this time around, don't you? :?


Yes, however the GT and the GTV are not available in the new car dealership.
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Re: Rejects Of Gran Turismo

Postby Klon » 03 Jan 2011, 11:23

MinardiFan95 wrote:
Klon wrote:
MinardiFan95 wrote:In GT5 it is very difficult to find the two cars for this challenge in the used car lot, as there are approximately 800 used cars and after each race 5 cars are added to the used car lot. Finding two specific cars is therefore the equivalent of finding a needle in a haystack. However I did buy two other Alfas, a 156 and a 147 GTA. A 147 Twinspark and Brera are available in the new car dealers, so maybe one of these should be added.


You know you are free to actually go to the dealer this time around, don't you? :?


Yes, however the GT and the GTV are not available in the new car dealership.


Oh, for HWNSNBM's sake. I'm starting to hate GT5. :mrgreen:
Well, then I will add the 147 GTA to the list later today.
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Re: Rejects Of Gran Turismo

Postby MinardiFan95 » 03 Jan 2011, 19:16

Klon wrote:Oh, for HWNSNBM's sake. I'm starting to hate GT5. :mrgreen:
Well, then I will add the 147 GTA to the list later today.


It's actually the 147 Twinspark thats available in the new car dealers.

To help you here's a car list. Premium cars can be bought at the new car dealership (so you can buy them at any time) and Standard cars can only be bought at the used car dealership (which means you have to wait until it is in stock - I've heard reports that it has taken some people up to 8 hours of entering and exiting races just to find the car they are looking for).
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Re: Rejects Of Gran Turismo

Postby Tealy » 03 Jan 2011, 21:38

MinardiFan95 wrote:
Klon wrote:Oh, for HWNSNBM's sake. I'm starting to hate GT5. :mrgreen:
Well, then I will add the 147 GTA to the list later today.


It's actually the 147 Twinspark thats available in the new car dealers.

To help you here's a car list. Premium cars can be bought at the new car dealership (so you can buy them at any time) and Standard cars can only be bought at the used car dealership (which means you have to wait until it is in stock - I've heard reports that it has taken some people up to 8 hours of entering and exiting races just to find the car they are looking for).


Yes. An update from my post above I have managed to pick up a used Alfa Romeo Spider just through random chance. I will give the challenge a go later today.
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Re: Rejects Of Gran Turismo

Postby Aerond » 03 Jan 2011, 21:39

Already done my time; Bought a new GT on GT4 :)
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Re: Rejects Of Gran Turismo

Postby Pointrox » 04 Jan 2011, 00:29

Klon wrote:Would anybody mind if I take part in the series myself? Obviously since I would have an unfair advantage, my results would be disrupting the competition which is why I'd be running alongside you, not actually scoring points.

Do it this way - participate in the series, then disqualify yourself in the final standings :D
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Postby Klon » 05 Jan 2011, 05:46

Results - "An Alfa Anniversary"
1.: Tommykl - n/a - Alfa Romeo GT 3.2 V6 24V '04 - 1'25.988
2.: Klon - PSP - Alfa Romeo GT 3.2 V6 24V '04 - 1'30.315
3.: BlindCaveSalamander - GT4 - Alfa Romeo GT 3.2 V6 24V '04 - 1:32.592
4.: Nuppiz - GT4 - Alfa Romeo GT 3.2 V6 24V '04 - 1'35.152
5.: Pointrox - GT4 - Alfa Romeo GT 3.2 V6 24V '04 - 1'35.354
6.: Tealy - GT5 - Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0i V6 24V - 1'35.840
7.: Dr-Baker - PSP - Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0i V6 24v '01 - 1'37.300
8.: Aerond - GT4 - Alfa Romeo GT 3.2 V6 24V '04 - 1'37.331
9.: The Masked Lapwing - GT4 - Alfa Romeo GT 3.2 V6 24V '04 - 1'37.880
10.: MinardiFan95 - GT5 - 147 TI 2.0 Twinspark '06 - 1'38.760
Bonus Point: MinardiFan95 for having a certain ... spark to him (tip for all the other drivers: your chance of getting the bonus point increases when you allow me to make puns)


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1.: BlindCaveSalamander - 16 Points
2.: Tommykl - 13 Points
3.: Nuppiz - 13 Points
4.: Klon - 8 Points
5.: Tealy - 7 Points
6.: The Masked Lapwing - 6 Points
7.: MinardiFan95 - 6 Points
8.: Pointrox - 6 Points
9.: Dr-baker - 4 Points

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1.: BlindCaveSalamander - 10 Points
2.: Nuppiz - 8 Points
3.: Pointrox - 6 Points
4.: Aerond - 5 Points
5.: The Masked Lapwing - 4 Points

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1.: Klon - 10 Points
2.: Dr-Baker - 8 Points

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1.: Tealy - 10 Points
2.: MinardiFan95 - 8 Points.

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Well it almost seems like there is no need for a Gran Turismo 2 scenario, but I will post one just in case...

Scenario 1-2: "The GREEN Hell"/"The Peak Of Your Ability"

Track (GT2): Trial Mountain Circuit
Track (GT4): Nordschleife
Track (GTP): Nordschleife
Track (GT5): Nordschleife

Car To Use (GT2): Suzuki Escudo Pikes Peak
Car To Use (GT4): Free Choice (colour must be a variation of green)
Car To Use (GTP): Free Choice (colour must be a variation of green)
Car To Use (GT5): Free Choice (colour must be a variation of green)

Allowed Tuning (GT2): Racing Tires
Allowed Tuning (GT4): Racing Tires/Oil Change
Allowed Tuning (GTP): Racing Tires
Allowed Tuning (GT5): Racing Tires/Oil Change

Other conditions: The car must be purely green, so no stripes or anything alike (i.e. racing cars don't count as well). Apparentely GT5 allows you to repaint some cars. This option is not allowed.

Deadline: 8th January 2011, 00:15 CET

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Once you think your lap time is good enough, please send me the following per e-mail.

User Name:
Car Used:
Tuning Applied:
Lap Time:
Game Used:
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Re: Rejects Of Gran Turismo

Postby Warren Hughes » 05 Jan 2011, 05:48

Urgh, I was too late again. :oops: And I'm cack at the Nurburgring.
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Re: Re:

Postby dr-baker » 05 Jan 2011, 06:03

Klon wrote:Results - "An Alfa Anniversary"
1.: Tommykl - n/a - Alfa Romeo GT 3.2 V6 24V '04 - 1'25.988
2.: Klon - PSP - Alfa Romeo GT 3.2 V6 24V '04 - 1'30.315
3.: BlindCaveSalamander - GT4 - Alfa Romeo GT 3.2 V6 24V '04 - 1:32.592
4.: Nuppiz - GT4 - Alfa Romeo GT 3.2 V6 24V '04 - 1'35.152
5.: Pointrox - GT4 - Alfa Romeo GT 3.2 V6 24V '04 - 1'35.354
6.: Tealy - GT5 - Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0i V6 24V - 1'35.840
7.: Dr-Baker - PSP - Alfa Romeo Spider 3.0i V6 24v '01 - 1'37.300
8.: Aerond - GT4 - Alfa Romeo GT 3.2 V6 24V '04 - 1'37.331
9.: The Masked Lapwing - GT4 - Alfa Romeo GT 3.2 V6 24V '04 - 1'37.880
10.: MinardiFan95 - GT5 - 147 TI 2.0 Twinspark '06 - 1'38.760
Bonus Point: MinardiFan95 for having a certain ... spark to him (tip for all the other drivers: your chance of getting the bonus point increases when you allow me to make puns)


M second-best lap would have put me 9th at best. Thank goodness for that one lap!
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Re: Rejects Of Gran Turismo

Postby Nuppiz » 05 Jan 2011, 06:08

Ok, I know that I'm not too good with Alfas or the Deep Forest, but 9 seconds? What the hell?

I guess it's hard to put in a good lap if you don't have anything to compare to (unlike in licence tests).

Nurby...oh dear, I'm going to be at the tail end I'm afraid.
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Re: Rejects Of Gran Turismo

Postby the Masked Lapwing » 05 Jan 2011, 09:35

Klon wrote:Results - "An Alfa Anniversary"
9.: The Masked Lapwing - GT4 - Alfa Romeo GT 3.2 V6 24V '04 - 1'37.880


I said it wasn't going to end well...
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Re: Rejects Of Gran Turismo

Postby Aerond » 05 Jan 2011, 10:10

Excuse me but the time of tommy is impossible without racing tyres or some advanced tuning (like racing brakes, for example). I don´t want to disgust anybody; but it´s hard to believe.
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Re: Rejects Of Gran Turismo

Postby Salamander » 05 Jan 2011, 11:57

Aerond wrote:Excuse me but the time of tommy is impossible without racing tyres or some advanced tuning (like racing brakes, for example). I don´t want to disgust anybody; but it´s hard to believe.


I agree, I was throwing my Alfa through there like a ragdoll, but I can't see a way to make up a whole 7 seconds without further upgrading the car.
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Re: Rejects Of Gran Turismo

Postby tommykl » 05 Jan 2011, 20:21

I only used R3 racing tyres, as upgrades aren't available on the PSP (which I'm using, I forgot to add that in the e-mail). I also used Standard driving physics.
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Re: Rejects Of Gran Turismo

Postby dr-baker » 05 Jan 2011, 20:31

tommykl wrote:I only used R3 racing tyres, as upgrades aren't available on the PSP (which I'm using, I forgot to add that in the e-mail). I also used Standard driving physics.

You were genuinely 11.302 seconds faster than me? How on earth...??? Wasn't just the GT spec was it?
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Re: Rejects Of Gran Turismo

Postby tommykl » 05 Jan 2011, 20:51

If I had an unfair advantage, I didn't know about it. I saw the Alfa Romeo dealership, bought the car that seemed the quicker of the two that Klon made available, stuck on R3 racing tyres, drove 30 laps with the racing line and Standard physics, no assisted direction, and set a ridiculously quick laptime god knows how.
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Re: Rejects Of Gran Turismo

Postby Tealy » 05 Jan 2011, 21:18

There are just two of us playing on GT5 :(

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Re: Rejects Of Gran Turismo

Postby Salamander » 06 Jan 2011, 01:16

tommykl wrote:I only used R3 racing tyres, as upgrades aren't available on the PSP (which I'm using, I forgot to add that in the e-mail). I also used Standard driving physics.


Perhaps it's the driving physics, then. Unless the only other option makes it easier.
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Re: Rejects Of Gran Turismo

Postby tommykl » 06 Jan 2011, 03:14

[lawyer mode]This is therefore a creative interpretation of the regulations. The game allows no performance upgrades whatsoever, and the PSP division regulations only mention the tyres. No rule mentions a limit on driving aids, which I am therefore entitled to use.[/lawyer mode]
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Re: Rejects Of Gran Turismo

Postby dr-baker » 06 Jan 2011, 05:29

tommykl wrote:[lawyer mode]This is therefore a creative interpretation of the regulations. The game allows no performance upgrades whatsoever, and the PSP division regulations only mention the tyres. No rule mentions a limit on driving aids, which I am therefore entitled to use.[/lawyer mode]

I also use the PSP. I also used racing tyres. I too used driving aids. Is there really that much time difference between the two models and our drining abilities? Time will tell!
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Re: Rejects Of Gran Turismo

Postby tommykl » 06 Jan 2011, 17:22

If you buy a car and one of the available colours is green, can we use it? Or is it just when the car is shown green from the start?
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Re: Rejects Of Gran Turismo

Postby the Masked Lapwing » 06 Jan 2011, 17:27

tommykl wrote:If you buy a car and one of the available colours is green, can we use it? Or is it just when the car is shown green from the start?

I bought a brand new green TVR for this, so it had better be allowed!
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Re: Rejects Of Gran Turismo

Postby dr-baker » 06 Jan 2011, 22:16

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tommykl wrote:If you buy a car and one of the available colours is green, can we use it? Or is it just when the car is shown green from the start?

I bought a brand new green TVR for this, so it had better be allowed!

I too bought a brand new car which just so happened to come in green, and that is the car which I shall use!
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Re: Rejects Of Gran Turismo

Postby Klon » 06 Jan 2011, 23:18

The only thing is the car needs is to be buyable in a shade of green.
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Re: Re:

Postby Shizuka » 07 Jan 2011, 03:20

Klon wrote:Well it almost seems like there is no need for a Gran Turismo 2 scenario, but I will post one just in case...

Scenario 1-2: "The GREEN Hell"/"The Peak Of Your Ability"

Track (GT2): Trial Mountain Circuit
Track (GT4): Nordschleife
Track (GTP): Nordschleife
Track (GT5): Nordschleife

Car To Use (GT2): Suzuki Escudo Pikes Peak
Car To Use (GT4): Free Choice (colour must be a variation of green)
Car To Use (GTP): Free Choice (colour must be a variation of green)
Car To Use (GT5): Free Choice (colour must be a variation of green)

Allowed Tuning (GT2): Racing Tires
Allowed Tuning (GT4): Racing Tires/Oil Change
Allowed Tuning (GTP): Racing Tires
Allowed Tuning (GT5): Racing Tires/Oil Change

Other conditions: The car must be purely green, so no stripes or anything alike (i.e. racing cars don't count as well). Apparentely GT5 allows you to repaint some cars. This option is not allowed.


But the problem is: The Escudo is not green :D And I have GT2 but I wait for the next "season".
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Re: Rejects Of Gran Turismo

Postby Phoenix » 07 Jan 2011, 08:50

Wouldn't it be more appropriate to use the Pikes Peak course for GT2?
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Re: Re:

Postby Salamander » 07 Jan 2011, 10:58

Shizuka wrote:And I have GT2 but I wait for the next "season".


It might be handy to get some practice in, if you're thinking of participating in the future. Even if you can't win this season, there's always room to improve your technique, knowledge of tracks, cars, etc.
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Re: Re:

Postby Shizuka » 07 Jan 2011, 18:31

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
Shizuka wrote:And I have GT2 but I wait for the next "season".


It might be handy to get some practice in, if you're thinking of participating in the future. Even if you can't win this season, there's always room to improve your technique, knowledge of tracks, cars, etc.


Technique = Got all golds in GT2
Knowledge of tracks = Played through the game several times using weaker cars
Cars = Full-tuned and tested all cars

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Re: Rejects Of Gran Turismo

Postby Nuppiz » 07 Jan 2011, 21:54

Out of curiosity: is TVR Cerbera Speed 12 allowed? Because, while it's massively powerful, it's still classified as a "Road Car", can be bought as green and has all the same upgrades available that any other normal car has. Because I don't want to spend almost 300k for something that gets disqualified in the end.

E: Nevermind, after further reading the topic, I found out that the only limitation is the green colour.
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Re: Rejects Of Gran Turismo

Postby the Masked Lapwing » 07 Jan 2011, 22:01

Nuppiz wrote:Out of curiosity: is TVR Cerbera Speed 12 allowed? Because, while it's massively powerful, it's still classified as a "Road Car", can be bought as green and has all the same upgrades available that any other normal car has. Because I don't want to spend almost 300k for something that gets disqualified in the end.

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Re: Rejects Of Gran Turismo

Postby Nuppiz » 07 Jan 2011, 22:18

Yeah, I noticed. It's currently more like a green, noisy, V12-engined wingless Cessna than a sports car. I have to really adjust my style.
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Re: Rejects Of Gran Turismo

Postby the Masked Lapwing » 07 Jan 2011, 22:20

I am willing to bet that youwill beat me, since I spun something like 12 or 13 times. In 1 lap. And couldn't be bothered setting another time.
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Re: Rejects Of Gran Turismo

Postby MinardiFan95 » 07 Jan 2011, 22:29

The Lamborghini Murcielago that I used was very hard to control, but probably not as hard to control as the TVR, which I probably would have used if I didn't already have it in Reflex Purple. I don't know how many attempts I had - I can assure you it was a lot - but I spun out on all of them. Settled with the lap where I spun on the sweeping corner after that long straight, simply because I couldn't be bothered setting a faster time.

A tip for anyone else playing GT5: If you're thinking of buying the Lamborghini Murcielago, don't. Try something else that's green (I think there was a green Audi R8 5.2 V10 that I saw after I bought the Lambo).
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Re: Rejects Of Gran Turismo

Postby Salamander » 07 Jan 2011, 22:57

Nuppiz wrote:Yeah, I noticed. It's currently more like a green, noisy, V12-engined wingless Cessna than a sports car. I have to really adjust my style.


That's why I decided to go for an XJ220 instead. That and the fact I already had a Speed 12, and it was modded past the regulations.

Shizuka wrote:Technique = Got all golds in GT2
Knowledge of tracks = Played through the game several times using weaker cars
Cars = Full-tuned and tested all cars

I just want to have fun, not win anyway.


Fair enough.
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Re: Rejects Of Gran Turismo

Postby Nuppiz » 08 Jan 2011, 00:35

After a good two hours of driving, I've decided to call it a day. On my best lap I only spun once and drove on the grass for a couple of times, which is pretty good considering my lack of skill at Nürburgring (I've usually let the B-Spec driver do the Nurby races).
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Re: Rejects Of Gran Turismo

Postby Aerond » 08 Jan 2011, 03:26

I just sent my time; I´ve tried four different cars, and in the end I decided to keep the TVR. I really had to adjust my driving style. It´s still a very driveable and enjoyable car, but you need to understand how this car works in order to obtain a good lap time. I only made one mistake on going into the grass during my lap; if not I think I would be able to save around 4 seconds off the total, but the nearest I got was 3 secs from my PB; and after trying lots I think I came up with a nice lap time. If I happen to score the best time I´ll gladly explain the secret to the TVR :)
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Re: Rejects Of Gran Turismo

Postby Tealy » 08 Jan 2011, 08:50

Just posted my time. I'm unlikely to get anywhere near victory this time though, my car kept topping out on the main straight sadly.
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Re: Rejects Of Gran Turismo

Postby tommykl » 08 Jan 2011, 21:34

I'm afraid lack of time on my part means that I won't be competing in this round.
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Re: Rejects Of Gran Turismo

Postby Aerond » 08 Jan 2011, 22:25

I managed to further improve my time; but going to stop there... Again, I lost control of the car just once, but drove faster in general so I tackled 4 seconds off my previous time. I know it can be done around 10 secs faster than I did if you manage a perfect lap; and I could do around 4 secs faster as the ghost I was racing against did a section faster than me...
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