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by **Bleu** » 24 Jul 2011, 16:38

1980

Nelson Piquet 61 (3 wins, 4 2nd, 1 3rd) USW NED ITA
Alan Jones 43 (3 wins, 2 2nd, 1 3rd) ARG FRA GBR
Jacques Laffite 39 (2 wins, 2 2nd, 2 3rd) MON GER
Didier Pironi 39 (2 wins, 2 2nd, 1 3rd) BEL USA
Rene Arnoux 33 (2 wins, 1 2nd) BRA RSA
Carlos Reutemann 22 (1 win, 3 3rd) CAN
Elio de Angelis 18 (2 2nd)
Jean-Pierre Jarier 11 (2 4th)
Jean-Pierre Jabouille 9 (1 win) AUT
Riccardo Patrese 9 (1 2nd)
Alain Prost 9 (4 5th)
Jochen Mass 8 (1 3rd)
Gilles Villeneuve 8 (2 4th)
John Watson 7 (1 3rd)
Derek Daly 7 (1 3rd)
Keke Rosberg 6 (1 3rd)
Bruno Giacomelli 6 (1 3rd)
Emerson Fittipaldi 4 (1 3rd)
Hector Rebaque 4 (1 4th)
Jody Scheckter 2 (1 5th)
Mario Andretti 2 (1 5th)
Marc Surer 2 (1 5th)
Rupert Keegan 1 (1 6th)

Piquet takes this quite easily, as James1978 predicted, Jones's elimination take lot of points, and Piquet was also able to take better advantage of other removed drivers.

This season was one of those seasons where we said goodbyes to many drivers. Tragically Patrick Depailler was killed in testing accident and Clay Regazzoni was paralysed in Long Beach. Among the retired drivers are Emerson Fittipaldi and Jody Scheckter.

by **James1978** » 24 Jul 2011, 23:56

I'll say Piquet wins again in 1981 since he's only out of 3 races.

by **Bleu** » 25 Jul 2011, 02:41

1981

Alain Prost 43 (3 wins, 2 2nd, 1 3rd) FRA NED ITA
Nelson Piquet 42 (3 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd) ARG RSM GER
Alan Jones 39 (3 wins, 2 2nd) USW BRA LVE
Jacques Laffite 33 (2 wins, 2 2nd) AUT CAN
Carlos Reutemann 26 (1 win, 1 2nd, 2 3rd) BEL
Elio de Angelis 25 (1 3rd)
Gilles Villeneuve 22 (2 wins, 1 3rd) MON ESP
John Watson 22 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd) GBR
Eddie Cheever 18 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Hector Rebaque 16 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Rene Arnoux 15 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Riccardo Patrese 13 (2 2nd)
Didier Pironi 12 (1 3rd)
Nigel Mansell 11 (1 2nd)
Bruno Giacomelli 8 (2 3rd)
Marc Surer 7 (1 3rd)
Patrick Tambay 5 (1 3rd)
Andrea de Cesaris 4 (1 5th)
Chico Serra 3 (1 4th)
Eliseo Salazar 3 (1 4th)
Slim Borgudd 2 (1 5th)
Siegfried Stohr 2 (1 5th)
Jean-Pierre Jarier 1 (1 6th)
Derek Daly 1 (1 6th)
Mario Andretti 1 (1 6th)
Yep, Piquet is only out from three races but they were good races for him and that is costly. The real-championship was really close with five drivers within seven points in the end, so it's not necessarily that surprising that we have the driver who was eligible for every race to win the title.

by **James1978** » 25 Jul 2011, 02:45

Interesting! I ruled Prost out due to his poor reliability.

1982 will be Rosberg as in real life as he won't lose any races.

by **Bleu** » 25 Jul 2011, 16:09

1982

Keke Rosberg 52 (1 wins, 5 2nd, 1 3rd) SUI
Didier Pironi 44 (3 wins, 2 2nd, 1 3rd) RSM NED GBR
John Watson 39 (2 wins, 2 2nd, 2 3rd) BEL DET
Michele Alboreto 33 (1 win, 2 3rd) LVE
Patrick Tambay 30 (1 win, 2 2nd, 2 3rd) GER
Alain Prost 29 (2 wins, 1 2nd) RSA BRA
Elio de Angelis 27 (1 win, 1 3rd) AUT
Rene Arnoux 24 (2 wins, 1 2nd) FRA ITA
Riccardo Patrese 21 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd) MON
Eddie Cheever 17 (1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Niki Lauda 16 (1 win, 1 3rd) USW
Nelson Piquet 14 (1 win) CAN
Derek Daly 12 (1 3rd)
Nigel Mansell 9 (1 3rd)
Gilles Villeneuve 6 (1 2nd)
Mauro Baldi 5 (1 4th)
Andrea de Cesaris 4 (1 3rd)
Jean-Pierre Jarier 3 (1 4th)
Eliseo Salazar 3 (1 5th)
Marc Surer 3 (1 5th)
Bruno Giacomelli 3 (1 5th)
Manfred Winkelhock 2 (1 5th)
Chico Serra 2 (2 6th)
Jacques Laffite 1 (1 6th)

Not much changes to original standings. The only win to change hands was British GP, where Lauda had to hand the win to Pironi. Alboreto took most advantage and leaped four places up to fourth.

Last season for four winners: Andretti and Reutemann (who both drove only few races) retired for good while Villeneuve died and Pironi was seriously injured during the season.

by **James1978** » 25 Jul 2011, 21:09

Prost for 1983 - most of his eliminations will be for races he did badly in that year.

by **Bleu** » 26 Jul 2011, 06:46

1983

Nelson Piquet 54 (3 wins, 2 2nd, 3 3rd) BRA FRA EUR
Alain Prost 48 (3 wins, 2 2nd, 1 3rd) BEL GBR AUT
Patrick Tambay 46 (1 win, 3 2nd, 3 3rd) RSM
Rene Arnoux 45 (3 wins, 2 2nd, 1 3rd) CAN GER NED
Eddie Cheever 29 (3 wins, 2 2nd, 1 3rd) ITA
Keke Rosberg 28 (1 win, 1 2nd) MON
John Watson 18 (1 win, 1 3rd) USW
Andrea de Cesaris 15 (2 2nd)
Derek Warwick 14 (3 4th)
Riccardo Patrese 13 (1 win, 1 3rd) RSA
Nigel Mansell 12 (1 3rd)
Michele Alboreto 11 (1 win) DET
Jacques Laffite 9 (1 3rd)
Marc Surer 8 (2 4th)
Elio de Angelis 4 (1 3rd)
Mauro Baldi 4 (1 5th)
Bruno Giacomelli 3 (1 5th)
Johnny Cecotto 2 (1 5th)
Danny Sullivan 2 (1 5th)
Chico Serra 1 (1 6th)
Raul Boesel 1 (1 6th)
Thierry Boutsen 1 (1 6th)
Niki Lauda 1 (1 6th)

It was a close title fight between four drivers. For a while I was hoping for another shocking champion - Tambay led with two races to go. And I enjoy very much to see Eddie Cheever winning a race.

Brazilian GP had no 2nd placed finisher after Rosberg was disqualified. As he was eligible for the race, 2nd place is not awarded in this championship either. If he had been eliminated, I would have promoted other drivers.

by **James1978** » 26 Jul 2011, 07:19

Oh dear wrong again!

De Angelis for 1984 - both McLarens will be eliminated too much.

by **Bleu** » 27 Jul 2011, 18:20

1984

Alain Prost 49,5(5 wins*, 1 2nd) RSM MON GER EUR POR
Elio de Angelis 45 (46) (3 2nd, 5 3rd)
Michele Alboreto 34,5 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd) BEL ITA
Derek Warwick 33 (2 wins, 2 2nd) RSA GBR
Niki Lauda 28 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd) CAN AUT
Keke Rosberg 26,5 (2 wins) BRA DAL
Nigel Mansell 23 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd) NED
Rene Arnoux 23 (2 2nd, 2 3rd*)
Ayrton Senna 20 (2 2nd*, 2 3rd)
Nelson Piquet 17 (1 win, 1 2nd) DET
Patrick Tambay 15 (1 win) FRA
Teo Fabi 12 (2 3rd)
Andrea de Cesaris 11 (1 2nd)
Riccardo Patrese 8 (1 2nd)
Jacques Laffite 7 (1 4th)
Thierry Boutsen 6 (3 5th)
Eddie Cheever 4 (1 3rd)
Stefan Johansson 4 (1 3rd)
Francois Hesnault 4 (2 5th)
Jo Gartner 3 (1 4th)
Piercarlo Ghinzani 3 (1 5th)
Marc Surer 3 (3 6th)
Mauro Baldi 2 (1 5th)
Gerhard Berger 2 (1 5th)
Manfred Winkelhock 1 (1 6th)
Huub Rothengatter 1 (1 6th)

Prost had enough races to win. He was helped by couple of new races - San Marino held for fourth time, European GP for second time and Portuguese GP for the first time in his career. Amazingly, de Angelis failed to win a race, but consistency wasn't enough.

by **James1978** » 27 Jul 2011, 18:24

I'm hopeless. Alboreto for 1985 - he'll only lose points in Detriot.

by **Bleu** » 27 Jul 2011, 23:27

1985

Michele Alboreto 63 (5 wins, 3 2nd) BRA MON CAN GBR GER
Ayrton Senna 52 (5 wins, 1 2nd) POR AUT NED ITA BEL
Keke Rosberg 44 (3 wins, 1 2nd, 2 3rd) DET FRA AUS
Elio de Angelis 43 (1 win, 2 2nd, 2 3rd) RSM
Stefan Johansson 38 (3 2nd, 3 3rd) (3 points for Tyrrell, 35 for Ferrari)
Nigel Mansell 36 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd) EUR RSA
Thierry Boutsen 22 (2 2nd)
Marc Surer 16 (1 2nd)
Jacques Laffite 12 (2 2nd)
Gerhard Berger 11 (2 4th)
Patrick Tambay 10 (2 3rd)
Martin Brundle 9 (1 4th)
Derek Warwick 8 (2 4th)
Nelson Piquet 7 (1 3rd, 1 4th)
Stefan Bellof 7 (1 3rd, 1 5th)
Niki Lauda 4 (1 3rd)
Andrea de Cesaris 4 (1 3rd)
Alain Prost 4 (1 3rd)
Philippe Streiff 4 (1 3rd)
Ivan Capelli 3 (1 4th)
Philippe Alliot 1 (1 6th)
Huub Rothengatter 1 (1 6th)
John Watson 1 (1 6th)

Alboreto got big lead early on, but he struggled a lot at the end of the season. Senna took four straight victories, but couldn't keep up with that success for the last few races in Europe, South Africa and Australia.

by **James1978** » 28 Jul 2011, 04:13

Finally I got one right!

Mansell for 1986 - all the races he's won so far are off the calendar for 1986!

by **Bleu** » 28 Jul 2011, 06:37

1986

Nigel Mansell 79 (81)(6 wins, 3 2nd, 1 3rd) BEL CAN FRA GBR ITA POR
Ayrton Senna 58 (5 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd) BRA ESP MON DET GER
Stefan Johansson 38 (1 win, 3 2nd, 1 3rd) AUT
Nelson Piquet 33 (1 win, 3 2nd, 1 3rd) HUN
Gerhard Berger 32 (2 wins, 1 3rd) RSM MEX
Alain Prost 29 (1 win, 2 2nd, 2 3rd) AUS
Keke Rosberg 20 (4 3rd)
Martin Brundle 16 (1 2nd)
Jacques Laffite 12 (2 2nd)
Rene Arnoux 12 (2 3rd)
Riccardo Patrese 12 (1 3rd)
Michele Alboreto 7 (1 3rd, 1 4th)
Teo Fabi 7 (1 3rd, 1 5th)
Philippe Streiff 7 (1 4th)
Patrick Tambay 6 (1 2nd)
Johnny Dumfries 6 (1 5th)
Derek Warwick 5 (1 4th)
Thierry Boutsen 5 (2 5th)
Christian Danner 4 (1 3rd)
Marc Surer 3 (1 5th)
Elio de Angelis 2 (1 5th)
Huub Rothengatter 2 (1 5th)
Alan Jones 2 (1 5th)
Philippe Alliot 1 (1 6th)

Three new Grand Prix's: Spain, Hungary and Mexico helped top drivers a lot, since there were full fields for these races. Mansell was eligible for every race and takes convincing title.

Another of those seasons where many notable drivers ended their career. This season was last for Jones, Tambay, de Angelis, Rosberg and Laffite due to death, injury or retirement from F1.

by **James1978** » 28 Jul 2011, 08:36

This is where I reckon we will see some unlikely champions due to the big 4 being out of lots of races.
I'll boldly say Stefan Johansson for 1987.

by **Bleu** » 28 Jul 2011, 16:22

1987

Gerhard Berger 54 (4 wins, 3 2nd) ITA POR JPN AUS
Stefan Johansson 51 (3 wins, 3 3rd) BRA BEL GER
Nigel Mansell 43 (4 wins, 1 3rd) RSM AUT ESP MEX
Nelson Piquet 39 (2 wins, 3 2nd) MON GBR
Ayrton Senna 36 (2 wins, 3 2nd) FRA HUN
Thierry Boutsen 25 (1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Teo Fabi 23 (1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Alain Prost 21 (1 win, 2 2nd) DET
Jonathan Palmer 16 (2 3rd)
Michele Alboreto 13 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Eddie Cheever 12 (1 3rd, 2 4th)
Satoru Nakajima 12 (1 3rd, 1 4th)
Philippe Streiff 11 (1 2nd)
Riccardo Patrese 7 (1 3rd)
Andrea de Cesaris 6 (1 2nd)
Philippe Alliot 6 (1 4th)
Martin Brundle 4 (2 5th)
Piercarlo Ghinzani 4 (1 5th)
Ivan Capelli 3 (1 4th)
Christian Danner 3 (3 6th)
Rene Arnoux 2 (1 5th)
Derek Warwick 2 (1 5th)
Yannick Dalmas 2 (1 5th)
Pascal Fabre 1 (1 6th)
Roberto Moreno 1 (1 6th)

Berger didn't look that strong in the beginning, but at the end he chased hard and won the title. Of the last six races he won four, having not won before that. Oh, and Pascal Fabre scores a point as well (in France, Mansell, Piquet and Prost eliminated)

by **James1978** » 28 Jul 2011, 21:13

Nice, I was very close!

Another bold choice for 1988 - Boutsen.

by **Bleu** » 29 Jul 2011, 02:49

1988

Thierry Boutsen 53 (1 win, 4 2nd, 3 3rd) DET
Ayrton Senna 51 (5 wins, 1 2nd) RSM CAN GBR JPN AUS
Gerhard Berger 41 (3 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd) BRA MON GER
Derek Warwick 38 (1 win, 2 2nd, 2 3rd) ITA
Ivan Capelli 37 (2 wins, 2 2nd, 1 3rd) BEL POR
Alain Prost 33 (3 wins, 1 2nd) MEX HUN ESP
Alessandro Nannini 25 (2 2nd)
Riccardo Patrese 17 (2 3rd)
Michele Alboreto 16 (1 win, 1 3rd) FRA
Mauricio Gugelmin 15 (1 3rd)
Nelson Piquet 13 (2 2nd)
Eddie Cheever 13 (3 4th)
Satoru Nakajima 12 (1 3rd)
Jonathan Palmer 11 (2 3rd)
Andrea de Cesaris 6 (1 2nd)
Yannick Dalmas 5 (1 4th)
Pierluigi Martini 4 (1 4th)
Alex Caffi 4 (1 5th)
Martin Brundle 2 (1 5th)
Nicola Larini 1 (1 6th)
Gabriele Tarquini 1 (1 6th)
Luis Perez Sala 1 (1 6th)

Senna lost the title in Mexico - he ended second and lost three points which would have given him title. It's easy to say now that Senna looks like Stirling Moss of this alternative championship - with 17 wins so far he doesn't really have enough races to fight for the championship anymore.

Andrea de Cesaris got great second in Detroit, while Ivan Capelli took two great wins and several other podiums. Nice to see Dallara, Osella and Coloni in the points as well.

by **James1978** » 29 Jul 2011, 07:11

Get in.

I think Senna's basically had it now as far as championships are concerned though. The other thing that makes me laugh about 1988 is Mansell doesn't score a single point!

1989 should be Patrese's.

by **Bleu** » 01 Aug 2011, 03:57

1989

Thierry Boutsen 54 (4 wins, 2 2nd, 1 3rd) CAN BEL ITA AUS
Riccardo Patrese 53 (1 win, 6 2nd, 2 3rd) FRA
Alessandro Nannini 52 (3 wins, 3 2nd) RSM GBR JPN
Nigel Mansell 27 (3 wins) BRA GER HUN
Jean Alesi 17 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Derek Warwick 16 (3 3rd)
Stefan Johansson 15 (1 win, 1 3rd) POR
Pierluigi Martini 15 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Alex Caffi 14 (1 2nd)
Eddie Cheever 14 (2 3rd)
Martin Brundle 12 (1 3rd)
Stefano Modena 9 (1 win) MON
Ayrton Senna 9 (1 win) MEX
Alain Prost 9 (1 win) USA
Gerhard Berger 9 (1 win) ESP
Mauricio Gugelmin 9 (1 2nd)
Andrea de Cesaris 9 (1 3rd)
Jonathan Palmer 8 (2 4th)
Satoru Nakajima 7 (1 4th)
Johnny Herbert 6 (1 3rd)
Olivier Grouillard 6 (2 4th)
Luis Perez Sala 5 (1 3rd)
Christian Danner 5 (1 4th)
Emanuele Pirro 5 (2 5th)
Michele Alboreto 4 (1 3rd)
Nelson Piquet 4 (1 4th)
Philippe Alliot 3 (1 4th)
Gabriele Tarquini 3 (1 5th)

Boutsen takes the double, helped obviously by the fact that he won only one race in the previous season. As in champion elimination, Modena wins in Monaco and Johansson in Portugal. Another highlight is Minardi getting 2-3 in Silverstone. In champion elimination it was only 3-4 since Mansell was still eligible in that.

Another funny fact is that of the 29 drivers who scored points in real-life, only one who misses here is Rene Arnoux.

by **James1978** » 01 Aug 2011, 05:26

Wow!

I'm going to go out on a limb and say Boutsen again for 1990! (I don't think he's affected too much as he's out of poor races for him in 1990)

by **Bleu** » 01 Aug 2011, 16:26

1990

Thierry Boutsen 59 (3 wins, 3 2nd, 3 3rd) BRA GBR HUN
Alessandro Nannini 45 (3 wins, 2 2nd, 1 3rd) MEX GER ESP
Riccardo Patrese 45 (2 wins, 2 2nd, 2 3rd) RSM ITA
Nelson Piquet 38 (3 wins, 2 3rd) POR JPN AUS
Jean Alesi 38 (1 win, 3 2nd) MON
Gerhard Berger 24 (2 wins, 1 2nd) CAN BEL
Eric Bernard 17 (1 2nd)
Aguri Suzuki 15 (3 3rd, 1 4th)
Derek Warwick 15 (3 3rd, 1 5th)
Alex Caffi 13 (1 3rd)
Ivan Capelli 12 (1 win) FRA
Satoru Nakajima 12 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Ayrton Senna 9 (1 win) USA
Roberto Moreno 8 (1 2nd)
Martin Donnelly 7 (1 4th)
Alain Prost 6 (1 2nd)
Nigel Mansell 6 (1 2nd)
Stefano Modena 6 (1 4th)
Nicola Larini 6 (1 5th)
Mauricio Gugelmin 5 (1 4th)
Philippe Alliot 4 (2 5th)
Pierluigi Martini 3 (1 4th)
Gregor Foitek 2 (1 5th)
Andrea de Cesaris 2 (1 5th)
Michele Alboreto 2 (1 5th)

First triple champion in the history!

Alesi started the season very well: 27 points in first four races but he failed to get a podium for the remainder of the season. This time it was Lola who got 2-3 in Britain!

by **tommykl** » 01 Aug 2011, 19:34

*sees latest results*

OH HELL YES!!!

by **James1978** » 02 Aug 2011, 05:17

I find it very amusing that Boutsen is 3 times WCD while (it looks very likely) that Senna won't win any at all.

If I've got this right, Patrese should easily pick up 1991 with Alesi 2nd (as Senna, Mansell, Prost, Piquet and probably Berger too are out of too many races).

by **Bleu** » 02 Aug 2011, 22:44

1991

Riccardo Patrese 83 (7 wins, 2 2nd*, 1 3rd) BRA MEX GER HUN POR ESP JPN
Jean Alesi 38 (1 win, 4 2nd, 1 3rd) FRA
Andrea de Cesaris 30 (3 2nd, 2 3rd)
Stefano Modena 23 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd) CAN
Roberto Moreno 23 (2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Nelson Piquet 20 (2 wins) USA BEL
Michael Schumacher 17 (1 win, 1 3rd) ITA
Pierluigi Martini 17 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Gerhard Berger 16 (1 win, 1 2nd) GBR
Nigel Mansell 15 (2 wins*) MON AUS
Bertrand Gachot 14 (1 2nd)
JJ Lehto 12 (1 win) RSM
Mauricio Gugelmin 11 (1 3rd)
Emanuele Pirro 10,5 (1 3rd)
Gianni Morbidelli 10 (1 3rd*)
Thierry Boutsen 8 (1 4th)
Satoru Nakajima 7 (1 3rd)
Ivan Capelli 7 (1 3rd)
Alain Prost 6 (1 2nd)
Mika Häkkinen 6 (1 3rd)
Martin Brundle 4 (1 3rd)
Mark Blundell 4 (1 4th)
Eric Bernard 4 (1 4th)
Johnny Herbert 4 (2 5th)
Aguri Suzuki 3 (1 4th)
Julian Bailey 3 (1 4th)
Erik Comas 3 (3 6th)
Nicola Larini 2 (1 5th)
Alessandro Zanardi 1,5 (2 6th*)
Gabriele Tarquini 1 (1 6th)

Patrese was dominant, especially towards the end of the season.
A great total of 30 drivers score points. Moreno did well but was sacked, however Schumacher won his first race for Benetton. Also notable thing was that 17 drivers had scored in first three races - only driver who scored twice was Mika Häkkinen!

by **James1978** » 02 Aug 2011, 22:53

So poor De Cesaris STILL hasn't won a race?

1992 will have to be Schumacher's with Patrese now out of a lot of races as well as Mansell, Senna and Berger. I was sort of ironically hoping Schumacher would suffer a similar fate to Senna in this. ;-)

by **Bleu** » 03 Aug 2011, 03:41

1992

Michael Schumacher 93 (8 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd) MEX BRA ESP MON CAN GER BEL AUS
Martin Brundle 82 (5 wins, 4 2nd, 2 3rd) RSM FRA ITA POR JPN
Mika Häkkinen 30 (3 2nd, 1 3rd)
Jean Alesi 30 (3 2nd, 3 3rd)
Andrea de Cesaris 24 (3 2nd)
Riccardo Patrese 16 (1 win, 1 2nd) GBR
Michele Alboreto 16 (1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Erik Comas 16 (1 3rd)
Gerhard Berger 14 (1 win, 1 3rd) HUN
Pierluigi Martini 12 (2 3rd)
JJ Lehto 11 (4 5th)
Ayrton Senna 10 (1 win) RSA
Johnny Herbert 9 (3 4th)
Ivan Capelli 8 (1 3rd)
Karl Wendlinger 7 (1 3rd)
Christian Fittipaldi 6 (2 4th)
Gianni Morbidelli 5 (1 4th)
Stefano Modena 5 (1 4th)
Aguri Suzuki 5 (1 5th)
Bertrand Gachot 4 (1 3rd)
Ukyo Katayama 4 (1 4th)
Thierry Boutsen 4 (2 5th)
Mauricio Gugelmin 3 (1 4th)
Olivier Grouillard 2 (1 5th)

Benetton drivers dominate the series. Brundle had bad luck in the beginning, but after all both Benetton drivers failed to score five times (for Schumacher one was elimination in Italy). It was maybe closer than you would think it was to be. Hungary was the only race where Benetton was not in top 2. No real obscure winners this time out. The battle of Japanese drivers was interesting, Suzuki took 6th places in the last two races to get ahead of Katayama.

by **James1978** » 03 Aug 2011, 03:51

Can't see how Hill can possibly lose 1993. Can't wait to see what's going to happen in 1994 though!

by **Bleu** » 03 Aug 2011, 16:26

1993

Damon Hill 92 (7 wins, 3 2nd, 1 3rd) BRA MON FRA HUN BEL ITA AUS
Mark Blundell 38 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 2 3rd) RSA GER
Michael Schumacher 36 (3 wins, 1 2nd) RSM GBR POR
Johnny Herbert 26 (3 2nd, 1 3rd)
Jean Alesi 25 (3 2nd, 1 3rd)
Martin Brundle 23 (5 3rd)
Michael Andretti 22 (1 win, 2 3rd) ESP
Alain Prost 20 (2 wins) CAN JPN
Christian Fittipaldi 20 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Karl Wendlinger 15 (5 4th)
JJ Lehto 12 (1 3rd)
Ayrton Senna 10 (1 win) EUR
Philippe Alliot 10 (1 2nd)
Riccardo Patrese 9 (1 3rd)
Rubens Barrichello 8 (2 4th)
Derek Warwick 6 (1 2nd)
Mika Häkkinen 6 (1 2nd)
Fabrizio Barbazza 6 (1 3rd)
Alessandro Zanardi 6 (2 4th)
Aguri Suzuki 6 (1 4th)
Erik Comas 6 (1 4th)
Gerhard Berger 3 (1 4th)
Luca Badoer 3 (1 4th)
Eddie Irvine 2 (1 5th)
Pierluigi Martini 2 (2 6th)
Thierry Boutsen 1 (1 6th)

As expected, Hill dominates. But he misses Schumacher's point record by a single point. Even Michael Andretti manages to win once.

Last season for three champions - Boutsen, Prost and Patrese and also for three other GP winners - Capelli, Andretti and Warwick

by **James1978** » 03 Aug 2011, 21:19

I'll actually say Hill for 1994 again. He's got more races left than Schumacher and the pair of them were miles ahead of anyone else!

by **Bleu** » 04 Aug 2011, 16:22

1994

Damon Hill 58 (5 wins, 1 2nd) ESP CAN GBR POR JPN
Michael Schumacher 46 (4 wins, 1 2nd) PAC FRA HUN EUR
Mika Häkkinen 38 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 3 3rd) BEL ITA
Jean Alesi 33 (1 win, 2 2nd, 2 3rd) BRA
Rubens Barrichello 30 (3 2nd, 1 3rd)
Martin Brundle 24 (2 wins, 1 3rd) MON AUS
Olivier Panis 20 (1 win, 1 3rd) GER
David Coulthard 20 (1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Gerhard Berger 14 (2 2nd)
Jos Verstappen 14 (2 2nd)
Mark Blundell 12 (1 2nd)
Heinz-Harald Frentzen 11 (1 3rd)
Nicola Larini 10 (1 win) RSM
Eric Bernard 9 (1 2nd)
Andrea de Cesaris 8 (1 2nd)
Ukyo Katayama 8 (1 3rd)
Christian Fittipaldi 8 (1 3rd)
JJ Lehto 8 (1 3rd)
Eddie Irvine 8 (1 4th)
Karl Wendlinger 7 (1 3rd)
Pierluigi Martini 7 (2 4th)
Erik Comas 6 (2 5th)
Gianni Morbidelli 5 (1 4th)
Olivier Beretta 4 (1 4th)
Johnny Herbert 4 (1 5th)
Nigel Mansell 3 (1 4th)
Michele Alboreto 1 (1 6th)

Hill repeats, and Schumacher still second. Nicola Larini winning race is great, although it happened in the sad event.

by **James1978** » 04 Aug 2011, 21:09

I love this championship.

For 1995 I'll go with Johnny Herbert. It'll be close between him and Coulthard as neither of them have won a race yet, but I'm thinking of the Elimination championship which he beat Coulthard when Hill, Schumacher, Hakkinen and the Ferraris was all eliminated, he should gain more here too.

by **Bleu** » 05 Aug 2011, 00:48

1995

David Coulthard 74 (6 wins, 1 2nd, 2 3rd) BRA FRA GER HUN POR PAC
Johnny Herbert 70 (4 wins, 2 2nd, 1 3rd) ESP MON GBR ITA
Jean Alesi 47 (2 wins, 4 2nd, 1 3rd) CAN EUR
Heinz-Harald Frentzen 33 (2 2nd, 3 3rd)
Olivier Panis 28 (1 win, 1 3rd) AUS
Damon Hill 26 (2 wins, 1 2nd) ARG RSM
Mark Blundell 26 (1 2nd, 4 3rd)
Rubens Barrichello 24 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Mika Häkkinen 19 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Eddie Irvine 18 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Michael Schumacher 14 (1 win, 1 3rd) JPN
Martin Brundle 12 (1 win) BEL
Mika Salo 12 (3 4th)
Gianni Morbidelli 9 (1 2nd)
Jean-Christophe Boullion 8 (1 3rd)
Gerhard Berger 5 (1 3rd)
Aguri Suzuki 5 (1 4th)
Pierluigi Martini 3 (1 4th)
Ukyo Katayama 2 (1 5th)
Pedro Lamy 2 (1 5th)
Andrea Montermini 2 (2 6th)
Luca Badoer 1 (1 6th)
Massimiliano Papis 1 (1 6th)
Pedro Diniz 1 (1 6th)

Compared to champion elimination championship, Herbert suffers compared to Coulthard especially in newer races Argentina (where he won that instead of 4th here) and Pacific (DC was the winner in both, but Herbert was 5th here and 2nd there)

It's quite surprising to see Montermini in the Pacific to beat Badoer in the Minardi!

by **Dartanian** » 05 Aug 2011, 01:25

For 1996 I'll be bold and go for that nice new chap Villeneuve XD

by **Shizuka** » 05 Aug 2011, 01:41

Villeneuve all the way. Rookie championship, easily.

by **Ferrim** » 05 Aug 2011, 02:06

And 1997 should still be Villeneuve as well.

by **James1978** » 05 Aug 2011, 02:45

Ferrim wrote:And 1997 should still be Villeneuve as well.

He seemed to do well in 1997 the races he didn't do well in 1996 and vice versa (except Silverstone that is).

by **Bleu** » 05 Aug 2011, 04:03

1996

Jacques Villeneuve 103 (9 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd) AUS ARG EUR CAN FRA GBR HUN BEL POR
Jean Alesi 54 (2 wins, 5 2nd, 1 3rd) ESP ITA
Mika Häkkinen 49 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 4 3rd) BRA JPN
Rubens Barrichello 32 (2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Eddie Irvine 27 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd) RSM
Olivier Panis 27 (1 win, 2 3rd) MON
David Coulthard 25 (3 2nd)
Heinz-Harald Frentzen 20 (1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Mika Salo 18 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Damon Hill 14 (1 win, 1 3rd) GER
Pedro Diniz 11 (1 3rd)
Martin Brundle 7 (1 4th)
Gerhard Berger 6 (1 2nd)
Ukyo Katayama 6 (1 4th)
Johnny Herbert 6 (2 5th)
Jos Verstappen 4 (2 5th)
Ricardo Rosset 3 (1 5th)
Pedro Lamy 2 (2 6th)
Giancarlo Fisichella 1 (1 6th)

Villeneuve dominates as expected, wins over half of the races and breaks a single-season point record. Nothing really special in this season, well Schumacher doesn't score a point but he was only eligible for one race - Argentina where he retired.

by **James1978** » 05 Aug 2011, 05:42

Changed my mind about 1997 - I'll go with Frentzen now I've seen how many races Villeneuve won i 1996!

by **Bleu** » 05 Aug 2011, 16:40

1997

Heinz-Harald Frentzen 64 (3 wins, 3 2nd, 2 3rd) RSM FRA JPN
Giancarlo Fisichella 47 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd) CAN BEL
Jacques Villeneuve 43 (4 wins) BRA ESP AUT LUX
David Coulthard 43 (2 wins, 2 2nd, 2 3rd) AUS ITA
Mika Häkkinen 35 (2 wins, 1 2nd) GER EUR
Johnny Herbert 33 (1 win, 5 3rd) HUN
Jean Alesi 32 (1 win, 2 2nd, 1 3rd) GBR
Eddie Irvine 29 (1 win, 2 2nd) ARG
Ralf Schumacher 27 (2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Olivier Panis 16 (2 2nd)
Jarno Trulli 13 (1 2nd)
Shinji Nakano 12 (1 3rd)
Rubens Barrichello 10 (1 win) MON
Gerhard Berger 9 (1 3rd)
Alexander Wurz 6 (1 2nd)
Pedro Diniz 6 (1 4th)
Nicola Larini 5 (1 3rd)
Mika Salo 5 (1 3rd)
Jan Magnussen 2 (1 5th)
Jos Verstappen 1 (1 6th)
Norberto Fontana 1 (1 6th)
Ukyo Katayama 1 (1 6th)
Gianni Morbidelli 1 (1 6th)
Michael Schumacher 1 (1 6th)

Frentzen started getting masses of points only towards the end of the season, but he took the title quite easily. Fisichella led the championship by mid-season, but in the end couldn't get enough points.

Michael Schumacher was eligible for three races but he still managed to get only one point in Austria.

Also, with 1997 season you may wonder where Panis was at the time of his accident - he had 14 points after Spain while Villeneuve was leading with 20 points. This even though he had been eliminated from Australian and Monaco GPs!

by **Shizuka** » 05 Aug 2011, 17:22

1998 goes for Hakkinen then, he will have the upper hand of Coulthard and Irvine for sure.

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