The F1 Rejects Big Car Championship

[Jeroen Krautmeir]

I withdrew Melrose as a driver and put O'Lauchlan and Reyna-Sanchez instead.

Fixed

[Jeroen Krautmeir]

List of tracks, in no particular order. I'll decide on a definite schedule once I get enough;

Vatican City
Vanuatu
Clyde River (AUS)
Somalia ~ Klon, you sure that's 1.5 KM? Looks like 2.0 miles, or at the very least 1.5 miles
USA
Germany ~ Planning on using the oval (I'll assume it's roughly the length of the Rio trapezoid)
Elba
Scotland
Penrith (AUS)
UK

[Wizzie]

I propose a second race in Australia at Penrith Speedway.

You see, after the war, Dutch immigrants Arne and Klara van Eudart, grandparents of John and Frank Zimmer, bought the 1 mile oval from the Army after WW2, paved it and upgraded the facilities to the point where it became the premier oval track in the South Pacific and indeed one of the best in the world.

[Klon]

Somalia ~ Klon, you sure that's 1.5 KM? Looks like 2.0 miles, or at the very least 1.5 miles

I'd guess so, I tried to redo the Iowa Speedway in terms of form and lenght - don't forget, that blue thing is the pitlane.

[SuperAguri]

might be pushing it but here is another track entry.

Whilst F1 has the glamor of Monaco with it's high life, hotels, expensive cars and glamour. it is unrivalled to the delights of the Macclesfield Grand Prix.

Come to Macclesfield and visit the Silk Museum and er, the Silk Museum again, a surefire hit with all the family.
Watch men with whippets take them for walks around the park and then pop in the the local drinking spot to have a warm bitter, nursing it for hours on end.
Delight in seeing affordable cars like a rare C reg Vauxhall Corsa or a Hyundai Accent that has failed it's MOT putt around the streets of Macclesfield at breathtaking speeds of 20mph.
See women with headscarves and curlers walking down the glamourous streets.
See a demonstration of skill when the wheels, engine and electronics are all taken out of a car in record time without the aid of powertools by the local youth.
Yes Macclesfield has it all, you can keep Monaco as we have the Macclesfield Grand Prix.

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5220510
Clockwise circuit
Lap Record 1:12.653

[Jeroen Krautmeir]

Well, how can we not have that! Added!

[Pointrox]

Chassis - 3
Engine - 4
Reliability - 3

Are these upgrade points you're trying to use?

Er... no, actually not

[This]

eh, dennis mignolet is not a separate team from RonDen Racing Engineering, to be precise, the 'Den' part refers to Dennis

[Jeroen Krautmeir]

eh, dennis mignolet is not a separate team from RonDen Racing Engineering, to be precise, the 'Den' part refers to Dennis

I thought so, but it's because the way you worded your sentence I wasn't so sure. Fixed now!

With 10 tracks, the following is the calendar;

1. Clyde River
2. Somalia
3. Elba
4. Vatican City
5. AustraLichi
6. Germany
7. UK
8. Scotland
9. USA
10. Penrith
11. Vanuatu

The points system is as following; 20-16-14-12-10-8-6-4-2-1 with 1 bonus point for pole position.

One-offs and/or part-time schedules are welcome, and mid-season track addons can be accommodated too!

We seem to be in a good position to start, if nobody has any issues, then tomorrow, I shall have qualifying results of the Clyde River weekend to share.

[Wizzie]

Penrith and Vanuatu should be moved to rounds 2 and 3 respectively.

[Jeroen Krautmeir]

Penrith and Vanuatu should be moved to rounds 2 and 3 respectively.

What I had in mind was that in the spirit of the Australian GP, we would have Clyde River to represent Albert Park as the season-opener, and Penrith as Adelaide (season ender). Also, ala the original IRL idea, I'll have the season end at the biggest race of all, in this case the Vanuatu GP! ( )

It's a bit like the F1 calendar nowadays in the sense that it begins with flyaway races, moves to Europe, then ends with flyaway races.

But I'm open to change, if you want.

[Wizzie]

Penrith and Vanuatu should be moved to rounds 2 and 3 respectively.

What I had in mind was that in the spirit of the Australian GP, we would have Clyde River to represent Albert Park as the season-opener, and Penrith as Adelaide (season ender). Also, ala the original IRL idea, I'll have the season end at the biggest race of all, in this case the Vanuatu GP! ( )

It's a bit like the F1 calendar nowadays in the sense that it begins with flyaway races, moves to Europe, then ends with flyaway races.

But I'm open to change, if you want.

I see what you're doing but I thought it'ld just be more logical that way

[Jeroen Krautmeir]

Penrith and Vanuatu should be moved to rounds 2 and 3 respectively.

What I had in mind was that in the spirit of the Australian GP, we would have Clyde River to represent Albert Park as the season-opener, and Penrith as Adelaide (season ender). Also, ala the original IRL idea, I'll have the season end at the biggest race of all, in this case the Vanuatu GP! ( )

It's a bit like the F1 calendar nowadays in the sense that it begins with flyaway races, moves to Europe, then ends with flyaway races.

But I'm open to change, if you want.

I see what you're doing but I thought it'ld just be more logical that way

I don't intend on using much logic in this championship

[the Masked Lapwing]

Will there be screenshots or videos? I want to see what Clyde River looks like

(Hopefully it'll be better than the crap Tilke comes out with...)

[Jeroen Krautmeir]

Will there be screenshots or videos? I want to see what Clyde River looks like

(Hopefully it'll be better than the crap Tilke comes out with...)

I'm afraid all xkoranate does is come up with results, it's up to the players to come up with other things, sorry to disappoint you.

But I'm sure it's better than Tilke.

[SuperAguri]

Can I enter another driver for my team?

Nobou Takahashi - Japanese

Chassis - 3
Engine - 6
Reliability - 1

Also should the UK GP be the England GP as we have a Scotland GP?

As it would piss off the swiss. The AustraLichi GP, a 2km oval clockwise oval that is over the border from Switzerland and is in Lichenstien and Austria. The start finish line being on the boarder between the two countries.
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5221354
Clockwise
Lap Record : 44.817 seconds

[Jeroen Krautmeir]

Can I enter another driver for my team?

Nobou Takahashi - Japanese

Chassis - 3
Engine - 6
Reliability - 1

Sure, that will give us a nice even number of 32 entries. (though I'm sure you mean Cornering, Acceleration and not Chassis, Engine )

Also should the UK GP be the England GP as we have a Scotland GP?

As it would piss off the swiss. The AustraLichi GP, a 2km oval clockwise oval that is over the border from Switzerland and is in Lichenstien and Austria. The start finish line being on the boarder between the two countries.
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5221354
Clockwise
Lap Record : 44.817 seconds

Point taken, I'll change that soon. I'll add that race too.

[Wizzie]

Also should the UK GP be the England GP as we have a Scotland GP?

As it would piss off the swiss. The AustraLichi GP, a 2km oval clockwise oval that is over the border from Switzerland and is in Lichenstien and Austria. The start finish line being on the boarder between the two countries.
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5221354
Clockwise
Lap Record : 44.817 seconds

Point taken, I'll change that soon. I'll add that race too.

45 seconds sounds awfully slow for a 1.3 mile oval.

[Jeroen Krautmeir]

Also should the UK GP be the England GP as we have a Scotland GP?

As it would piss off the swiss. The AustraLichi GP, a 2km oval clockwise oval that is over the border from Switzerland and is in Lichenstien and Austria. The start finish line being on the boarder between the two countries.
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5221354
Clockwise
Lap Record : 44.817 seconds

Point taken, I'll change that soon. I'll add that race too.

45 seconds sounds awfully slow for a 1.3 mile oval.

Even if I cut 20 seconds, it'll still be a bit slow. So I'll make it 20.817, if that's fine with SuperAguri

[Wizzie]

Point taken, I'll change that soon. I'll add that race too.

45 seconds sounds awfully slow for a 1.3 mile oval.

Even if I cut 20 seconds, it'll still be a bit slow. So I'll make it 20.817, if that's fine with SuperAguri

Ah... the benefits of ChampCars being ridiculously quick around short ovals (Case of point: Rockingham)

[Ferrarist]

@Jeroen: If you want to use the oval version of my track, then you can just take the values of the Milwaukee Mile.

[Jeroen Krautmeir]

@Jeroen: If you want to use the oval version of my track, then you can just take the values of the Milwaukee Mile.

Point taken.

[Jeroen Krautmeir]

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   Qualifying - Clyde River
 1 Dennis Mignolet (RonDen Racing Engineering)       1:21.233   Swift-Buick
 2 Scott Menard (Team Menard)                        1:21.299   Lola-Buick
 3 Nobou Takahashi (TOMS Racing Team)                1:21.304   Swift-Toyota
 4 Jeroen Krautmeir (BRT Haargad)                    1:21.813   Eagle-Buick
 5 Lee Rogers (The Fighting Mongooses)               1:21.971   Eagle-Honda
 6 Phoenix McAllister (Team Phoenix F1RBCC)          1:21.992   Lola-Honda
 7 Robert Finley (Team Menard)                       1:22.014   Lola-Buick
 8 Jason Hamilton (Mobil 1 Racing)                   1:22.082   Dallara-Honda
 9 Carsten Jancker (Virgin Inter Corse)              1:22.220   Dallara-Toyota
10 Heinz-Nick Schuttel (Die Deutschen Renner)        1:22.253   Dallara-Opel (Buick)
11 Volodomyr Verediuk (East Racing)                  1:22.350   Dallara-Honda
12 Michel Toureau (Albertini EuroRacing)             1:22.404   Swift-Judd
13 Kay Lon (Best In The World™ Motorsport)           1:22.536   Lola-Ilmor
14 Barii Mori (TOMS Racing Team)                     1:22.536   Swift-Toyota
15 Dean O'Lauchlan (Melrose Racing Team)             1:22.566   Dallara-Ilmor
16 Vidal Reyna-Sanchez (Melrose Racing Team)         1:22.585   Dallara-Ilmor
17 Wu Zi Mu (Team Phoenix F1RBCC)                    1:22.640   Lola-Honda
18 Rick Simpson (Simpson Motorsports)                1:22.671   Panoz-Ford Cosworth
19 Damon Cannon (Pure Morning Racing)                1:22.902   Dallara-Ford Cosworth
20 Tetsuya Nakamura (Pac Racing)                     1:23.054   Reynard-Ford Cosworth
21 Poppy Whitechapel (Pure Morning Racing)           1:23.210   Dallara-Ford Cosworth
22 Thomas de Bock (De Bock Race Engineering)         1:23.238   Panoz-Judd
23 Nobushige Fukuda (Virgin Inter Corse)             1:23.477   Dallara-Toyota
24 Kazuhiko Takagi (Scuderia Mecha)                  1:23.485   Lola-Honda
25 Ryan Zimmer (Walkinshaw-Prodrive Racing)          1:23.561   Lola-Toyota
26 Masta Valsattis (MA Racing Team)                  1:23.579   Dallara-Honda
27 Dimitrij Afanasienko (East Racing)                1:23.737   Dallara-Honda
28 Pádraig O Connell  (Four Leaf Clover MotorSport)  1:23.824   Reynard-Ilmor
29 Daniel Martins (Game Over Man)                    1:24.048   Eagle-Buick
30 Brendon Cassidy (The Fighting Mongooses)          1:24.188   Eagle-Honda
31 Erik Courbois (RonDen Racing Engineering)         1:24.894   Swift-Buick
32 Christian Veldannacher (Die Deutschen Renner)     1:25.564   Dallara-Opel (Buick)

[Pointrox]

Today, Michel Toureau has shown a good performance. He improved continuously and found his pace early in the session.
Tomorrow is going to be a long and physically tough race here in Batemans Bay.

[This]

RonDenRacingEngineering is very happy that Erik remains within 4 seconds from Dennis' pole time! Not bad for a 50 year old driver! Also considering Dennis hasn't raced since 1994, this is really a bad thing for other drivers...
still, 1th and 31th is a somewhat weird result

[Waris]

Whoops, looks like I'm late to the party, but can I enter a team/car? I've been wanting to try my hand at F1 Rejects Forum-fantasy racing competitions for ages now. I would ask to take over Dennis Mignolet's car, but since he qualified on pole, he probably won't let me...

[Stramala]

We had hoped for more today. 9th and 23rd is not that great a result, but hopefully we have good race pace and will manage a good result for both drivers.

[SuperAguri]

Ah the irony of Barii Mori and Kay Lon getting the same time.

I very happy to be three fastest, my team mate has more experience and he has teached me to go fast.

14th is not too great but not too bad, but hopefully the idiot next to me won't get in my way.

[This]

Whoops, looks like I'm late to the party, but can I enter a team/car? I've been wanting to try my hand at F1 Rejects Forum-fantasy racing competitions for ages now. I would ask to take over Dennis Mignolet's car, but since he qualified on pole, he probably won't let me...

You can have his drive from next race on if you want to, but you can probably enter your own team too.
But not for this race, i want to let Dennis have at least one race this year...

[Ferrarist]

Ja, we are pleased dat we meid de top ten in qualifying. With Schuttel at least. As vor Veidannacher...we have to wait how he performs in de next razes of de championship. Obviously our car isn't badd, or Schuttel wouldn't have qualified in de top ten. Now we hope dat Schuttel can turn his position into some gudd resalts.

[Waris]

By the way, this xkoranate program seems to be quite useful for simulating races. I downloaded it myself, but since there's no help file or official help on the Internet, I tried fiddling around a bit with it myself... it seems like there's no way to set the starting grid for races? I only see "Mass Start" as an option, is that correct? Surely that's a flaw... Also, I don't see any options for simulating weather changes etcetera. It's still a nice program, though.

[Jeroen Krautmeir]

By the way, this xkoranate program seems to be quite useful for simulating races. I downloaded it myself, but since there's no help file or official help on the Internet, I tried fiddling around a bit with it myself... it seems like there's no way to set the starting grid for races? I only see "Mass Start" as an option, is that correct? Surely that's a flaw... Also, I don't see any options for simulating weather changes etcetera. It's still a nice program, though.

The auto racing scorinator in xkoranate is basically the same as Casari's scorinator, which had qualifying/starting grids. There's no obvious button for it, but from my tests, if you scorinate qualifying, and then after that do the race, seems pretty good to me. There's a much superior scorinator developed by LE, but he'll probably never make his stuff go public. As for weather changes, if you want, I can just use random.org and the numbers 1 and 2, and whichever I get, I'll just modify the best time to give us big numbers. Obviously, not too authentic.

And regarding entering your own team, feel free, but you can only start from the next race.

Jeroen did a good job today, he's in the top 5, and I think from there he will do great things in the race. There is some strong opposition up ahead in the form of Dennis, Scott and Nobou, but I'm confident the team as a whole can handle it like professionals.

[eurobrun]

8th is good.

[Stramala]

8th is good.

I think we just found the next Kimi Raikkonen

[eurobrun]

8th is good.

I think we just found the next Kimi Raikkonen

[DanielPT]

Oh boy... It looks I will be an absolute reject in this series! Lovely!

[Stramala]

Virgin Inter Corse replaced by Scuderia Alitalia

After Internazionale Corse S.p.A. went into administration, Alasdair Lindsay's new Scuderia Alitalia outfit bought all of the team's assets & entries, meaning that beginning Round Two, the old VIC Dallara-Toyotas would be renamed and rebranded in their new Italian colours. Drivers Carsten Jancker and Nobushige Fukuda have been retained in the switch.

[Shizuka]

If someone would like to have a driver in place of Dean O'Lauchlan, who is about to leave to Shonan DMS, go on.

[East Londoner]

An average, but expected effort in qualifying. We are at the tailend of the midfield, and so Damon and Poppy will have to work hard to avoid being taken out at the first corner, and to claim a good result come the end of the race.

[Jeroen Krautmeir]

If someone would like to have a driver in place of Dean O'Lauchlan, who is about to leave to Shonan DMS, go on.

Does this mean O'Lauchlan is leaving the series?

On a side note, I'll have some results tomorrow!