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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby the Masked Lapwing » 28 Mar 2012, 20:07

Shadaza wrote:
the Masked Lapwing wrote:Jaguar will shift 80% focus to developing the new car.


This should be enough to easily finish the car. Done. (moved from 73 27)

Also, Jaguar made a slight profit ($43000) this period. Though Sato needed at least that in new parts for the next race.


A profit so far? Is that because I'm lazy, cheap or I'm actually doing something right? :lol:
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Shadaza » 28 Mar 2012, 20:15

the Masked Lapwing wrote:
Shadaza wrote:
the Masked Lapwing wrote:Jaguar will shift 80% focus to developing the new car.


This should be enough to easily finish the car. Done. (moved from 73 27)

Also, Jaguar made a slight profit ($43000) this period. Though Sato needed at least that in new parts for the next race.


A profit so far? Is that because I'm lazy, cheap or I'm actually doing something right? :lol:


It is because you have just the right amount of staff to get stuff done without it being a burden on finances, 3 cheap drivers and your early results attracted good sponsors.
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby AdrianSutil » 28 Mar 2012, 20:20

Switch development on the new car to 85% please. Also, which sponsors are still available to sign?
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Wizzie » 28 Mar 2012, 20:27

AdrianSutil wrote:Switch development on the new car to 85% please. Also, which sponsors are still available to sign?


Dude, you're at 12% after 4 races. You're gonna need a lot more than 85% commitment to get the car done :lol:
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Shadaza » 28 Mar 2012, 20:30

AdrianSutil wrote:Switch development on the new car to 85% please. Also, which sponsors are still available to sign?


You are probably better off going 100% on your new car, you team is small and with semi automatic gears already its probably a good time to shift focus. You won't manufacture a new decent part this side of Christmas (to be fair it does take far too long to develop parts in this game!)


I stopped work on semi automatic gears, because your car can only run level 1. (need better EMS)
On the sponsorship front it looks tough. Still got 3 level 5 sponsors, (Compaq, AMD and Vodafone) don't even try to win those with your department, 1 level 4 (Kingfisher which you currently have 100% focus on) 2 level 3 (Dell which Minardi and Jordan are squabbling over and European which Minardi are trying to get) no level 2 sponsors, and 2 almost useless level 1's (better then nothing) Benson and Hedges and Mobil 1.
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby DanielPT » 28 Mar 2012, 20:31

Switch to 90% the focus on the new car for Jordan.
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Wizzie » 28 Mar 2012, 20:32

Williams will like to trade their Semi-Automatic gearbox with Minardi in exchange for their Sidepods (That's assuming that I'm correct in saying Minardi's got the BAR system Williams have been trying to get for ages)
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Shadaza » 28 Mar 2012, 20:35

Probably worth mentioning at the current level of sponsorship only 3 teams have any chance of making a profit as things stand:

Williams (fully sponsored car!) Jaguar (did actually make a tiny profit!) and BAR (Only lost a small amount, a good race result would put it in the black!).

Toyota are currently losing over $1million a race and only taking in 83 thousand. (Ferrari also losing over $1million a race but with 2 big sponsors look in better shape.)
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby DanielPT » 28 Mar 2012, 20:36

Also, switch the focus I had on West to Kingfisher and try to steal something from Minardi.
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Wizzie » 28 Mar 2012, 20:36

Shadaza wrote:Probably worth mentioning at the current level of sponsorship only 3 teams have any chance of making a profit as things stand:

Williams (fully sponsored car!) Jaguar (did actually make a tiny profit!) and BAR (Only lost a small amount, a good race result would put it in the black!).

Toyota are currently losing over $1million a race and only taking in 83 thousand. (Ferrari also losing over $1million a race but with 2 big sponsors look in better shape.)


And may I ask how much McLaren are losing with that $8 million a year blackhole in the lead car? :lol:
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Shadaza » 28 Mar 2012, 20:37

Wizzie wrote:Williams will like to trade their Semi-Automatic gearbox with Minardi in exchange for their Sidepods (That's assuming that I'm correct in saying Minardi's got the BAR system Williams have been trying to get for ages)


You have literally the worst luck with security. Couldn't enter Minardi, couldn't get in to BAR. Swapped to Minardi, couldn't get in to Williams. yup.
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Wizzie » 28 Mar 2012, 20:38

Shadaza wrote:
Wizzie wrote:Williams will like to trade their Semi-Automatic gearbox with Minardi in exchange for their Sidepods (That's assuming that I'm correct in saying Minardi's got the BAR system Williams have been trying to get for ages)


You have literally the worst luck with security. Couldn't enter Minardi, couldn't get in to BAR. Swapped to Minardi, couldn't get in to Williams. yup.


What gave you the idea it was going to work the other way round to begin with? :lol:
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Shadaza » 28 Mar 2012, 20:39

Wizzie wrote:
Shadaza wrote:
Wizzie wrote:Williams will like to trade their Semi-Automatic gearbox with Minardi in exchange for their Sidepods (That's assuming that I'm correct in saying Minardi's got the BAR system Williams have been trying to get for ages)


You have literally the worst luck with security. Couldn't enter Minardi, couldn't get in to BAR. Swapped to Minardi, couldn't get in to Williams. yup.


What gave you the idea it was going to work the other way round to begin with? :lol:


Psychic?
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takagi_for_the_win wrote:Am I the only one that thinks Raikkonen/Montoya (McLaren 2005-06) had the potential to be absolutely beast?


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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Wizzie » 28 Mar 2012, 20:40

Shadaza wrote:
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You have literally the worst luck with security. Couldn't enter Minardi, couldn't get in to BAR. Swapped to Minardi, couldn't get in to Williams. yup.


What gave you the idea it was going to work the other way round to begin with? :lol:


Psychic?


Meh, how many stages better is the BAR system over the Williams one anyway and how much development has Williams done on their own new sidepods?
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby eurobrun » 28 Mar 2012, 20:41

I am so confused.
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Wizzie » 28 Mar 2012, 20:43

eurobrun wrote:I am so confused.


Don't worry, just copy everything Williams does and you should be fine :lol:

Failing that, I highly recommend downloading some of Nuppiz's mods for GMP2 and playing the game to get your head around some of the finer concepts behind it (Plus, it's a damn good game to boot and a damn sight better than pretty much all team management games on the internet :mrgreen: )
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Shadaza » 28 Mar 2012, 20:47

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takagi_for_the_win wrote:Am I the only one that thinks Raikkonen/Montoya (McLaren 2005-06) had the potential to be absolutely beast?


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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Shadaza » 28 Mar 2012, 20:48

Wizzie wrote:And may I ask how much McLaren are losing with that $8 million a year blackhole in the lead car? :lol:


they are losing $858000 a race ($648000 is spent on "drivers" per race) The rest of their department is quite cheap, they make a decent amount of prize money and if they get good sponsors they could probably survive.

DanielPT wrote:Also, switch the focus I had on West to Kingfisher and try to steal something from Minardi.


They have NO parts better then you, so I nicked their semi automatic gearbox for you 8-).

Wizzie, BAR have 1 stage better side pods then you. the side pods you are working on are about 1/3 done.

BTW I wonder if anyone was aware of this exploit, normally if you steal a part that you are currently manufacturing, you lose all work on the "inhouse part" as the one you stole is better. HOWEVER, if you put your work on the new part to 0%, steal the better part, you can resume work with the same level of progress and quickly cheat your way to 2 stage better parts. 8-)
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takagi_for_the_win wrote:Am I the only one that thinks Raikkonen/Montoya (McLaren 2005-06) had the potential to be absolutely beast?


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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Wizzie » 28 Mar 2012, 20:49

Shadaza wrote:BTW I wonder if anyone was aware of this exploit, normally if you steal a part that you are currently manufacturing, you lose all work on the "inhouse part" as the one you stole is better. HOWEVER, if you put your work on the new part to 0%, steal the better part, you can resume work with the same level of progress and quickly cheat your way to 2 stage better parts. 8-)


I've been playing GMP2 on and off for years and I honestly never knew that. However, I do know the exploit that can get your car on pole virtually every single time :lol:
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Shadaza » 28 Mar 2012, 20:52

Wizzie wrote:
Shadaza wrote:BTW I wonder if anyone was aware of this exploit, normally if you steal a part that you are currently manufacturing, you lose all work on the "inhouse part" as the one you stole is better. HOWEVER, if you put your work on the new part to 0%, steal the better part, you can resume work with the same level of progress and quickly cheat your way to 2 stage better parts. 8-)


I've been playing GMP2 on and off for years and I honestly never knew that. However, I do know the exploit that can get your car on pole virtually every single time :lol:


ha there are at least 2 of those. Wait for the fastest car to come round and have it push yours. or 2. use the do or die team order which is ridiculously broken. possibly even use a combination of both!

:lol:
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Wizzie » 28 Mar 2012, 20:53

Shadaza wrote:
Wizzie wrote:
Shadaza wrote:BTW I wonder if anyone was aware of this exploit, normally if you steal a part that you are currently manufacturing, you lose all work on the "inhouse part" as the one you stole is better. HOWEVER, if you put your work on the new part to 0%, steal the better part, you can resume work with the same level of progress and quickly cheat your way to 2 stage better parts. 8-)


I've been playing GMP2 on and off for years and I honestly never knew that. However, I do know the exploit that can get your car on pole virtually every single time :lol:


ha there are at least 2 of those. Wait for the fastest car to come round and have it push yours. or 2. use the do or die team order which is ridiculously broken. possibly even use a combination of both!

:lol:


I usually do both as a failsafe. Especially when I got to the point where I'd developed the Sauber to such an extent that it was now quicker than the Ferraris I had been using as pushers before :lol:
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Shadaza » 28 Mar 2012, 20:54

eurobrun wrote:I am so confused.


Long story short, try get a 5 star sponsor!
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby East Londoner » 28 Mar 2012, 23:38

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East Londoner wrote:Change the balance between new parts and the new car to 35% for parts and 65% for the new car.


I could do that, but the balance is 25% 75% at the moment and changing to your balance would mean your new car will be even less likly to be done in time!

Ah.

Okay, switch the balance to 83% for the new car and 17% for new parts. Will that be enough though?
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby The Lukas » 29 Mar 2012, 00:15

switch the balance to 80% for the new car and 20% for new parts.
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Nuppiz » 29 Mar 2012, 00:18

If you still have trouble finishing your new car designs on time, the only chance you've got is to hire more designers, and that costs mucho $$$.
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Shadaza » 29 Mar 2012, 01:19

The Lukas wrote:switch the balance to 80% for the new car and 20% for new parts.


That is what it was already set too, so I changed it to 85%-15% for now.

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East Londoner wrote:Change the balance between new parts and the new car to 35% for parts and 65% for the new car.


I could do that, but the balance is 25% 75% at the moment and changing to your balance would mean your new car will be even less likly to be done in time!

Ah.

Okay, switch the balance to 83% for the new car and 17% for new parts. Will that be enough though?


hmmm touch and go, It should be enough to work with for now and we can adjust the slider more if the need arises.
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Klon » 29 Mar 2012, 02:59

Offer Barrichello a new 1 year contract and give each of my five-star sponsors four spots on the car, I trust you to choose the best places. What other sponsors are interested in Ferrari? Also, what was my ratio in new car vs. R&D again.
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Shadaza » 29 Mar 2012, 05:23

Klon wrote:Offer Barrichello a new 1 year contract and give each of my five-star sponsors four spots on the car, I trust you to choose the best places. What other sponsors are interested in Ferrari? Also, what was my ratio in new car vs. R&D again.


8 spots of 5 star sponsors is worth $15 Million (easily the highest on the grid already) total, no other sponsor is interested at the moment, but f you focus your attention on an unclaimed sponsor you have a very strong chance of attracting them, only Williams can rival you commercially. You have 80% focus on the new car and 20% on R&D (which as you see will be easily more then enough to get the car finished in time). In terms of R&D you are not actually developing anything at the moment.

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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby AdrianSutil » 29 Mar 2012, 06:11

Right, hire 10 excellent designers to help with the new car and switch to 90% on new car and 10% on parts. Surely that will be enough to get it done.

As with sponsorship, hire 10 excellent staff for that department and have 50% on B&H and 50% on Mobil1.

Break into BAR (for the lulz) and steal anything better.
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Shadaza » 29 Mar 2012, 07:35

AdrianSutil wrote:Right, hire 10 excellent designers to help with the new car and switch to 90% on new car and 10% on parts. Surely that will be enough to get it done.

As with sponsorship, hire 10 excellent staff for that department and have 50% on B&H and 50% on Mobil1.

Break into BAR (for the lulz) and steal anything better.


No problem.
you successfully steal BAR's transmission.
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby East Londoner » 29 Mar 2012, 07:39

Shadaza wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:Right, hire 10 excellent designers to help with the new car and switch to 90% on new car and 10% on parts. Surely that will be enough to get it done.

As with sponsorship, hire 10 excellent staff for that department and have 50% on B&H and 50% on Mobil1.

Break into BAR (for the lulz) and steal anything better.


No problem.
you successfully steal BAR's transmission.

Bathplug. First he steals my transmission, and soon he's gonna get ahead in the member's list :(

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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Shadaza » 29 Mar 2012, 07:44

East Londoner wrote:
Shadaza wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:Right, hire 10 excellent designers to help with the new car and switch to 90% on new car and 10% on parts. Surely that will be enough to get it done.

As with sponsorship, hire 10 excellent staff for that department and have 50% on B&H and 50% on Mobil1.

Break into BAR (for the lulz) and steal anything better.


No problem.
you successfully steal BAR's transmission.

Bathplug. First he steals my transmission, and soon he's gonna get ahead in the member's list :(

I fancy taking my frustrations out on...Jordan. Just because I can...


You attempt to steal Jordan's front wing but get caught and "fined" $150 000*
*The programmers of this game are nonces and instead of taking away $150 000 from you they take $150 000 off your expenditure, they give you the money.
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takagi_for_the_win wrote:Am I the only one that thinks Raikkonen/Montoya (McLaren 2005-06) had the potential to be absolutely beast?


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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby eurobrun » 29 Mar 2012, 07:49

Can I steal from whatever team has the best aerodynamics.
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Shadaza » 29 Mar 2012, 08:02

eurobrun wrote:Can I steal from whatever team has the best aerodynamics.


That is a little vague, So i just stole "a teams" air box for you. :mrgreen:

The overheating issues are now long gone for your team.

In future, please pick a team, you can be vague if you want but I won't be stealing all the best parts for you (airbox is improved but that is perhaps the least significant area of the car aerodynamically (well besides the floor but everyone has the same there!)
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Shadaza » 29 Mar 2012, 20:19

Tomorrow I shall run round 5. In the meantime here is the sponsor leader board:

Ferrari: $15.093 Million
Williams:$9.086 Million
Jaguar:$5.514 Million
Renault: $3.772 Million
Sauber:$3.246 Million
BAR: $2.137 Million
Ansimov:$1.470 Million
Toyota:$0.676 Million
McLaren:$0
Jordan: $0
Minardi: $0
Arrows:$0

Another issue I am considering is what to do with managers who take over a team mid season. Should they receive a financial boost ($5 Million) to help them come to line or should they just bare the problems the team have?
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takagi_for_the_win wrote:Am I the only one that thinks Raikkonen/Montoya (McLaren 2005-06) had the potential to be absolutely beast?


Yes, because it had Juan Pablo Montoya.
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby AdrianSutil » 30 Mar 2012, 03:34

Take the problems and lack of money on. Gives you a challenge then :)
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Stramala » 30 Mar 2012, 06:57

Minardi will spend 100% of it's time on European.
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Shadaza » 30 Mar 2012, 18:13

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What the?
Ferrari's Pole dominance is broken by HWNSNBM, who takes his first career pole. Ferrari's usual 1 second per lap advantage seems to have vanished. Is that a Jaguar in 5th?! surley the best ever qualifying performance for Luca Badoer. Webber out qualifies Heidfeld for the first time this season, Williams have another poor session Dario Franchitti puts his Minardi in the top half of the grid and Massa gives Arrows their best qualifying of the year with a strong 17th. What on earth happened to Button, Sato and Hakkinen?!?

The race is 65 laps.
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby AdrianSutil » 30 Mar 2012, 18:19

Looks like recent updates and common thievery have helped Arrows.

Felipe Massa to two-stop: Laps 20 and 45
Adrian Sutil to three-stop: Laps 14, 30 and 47
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