Most Forgettable Drivers

[AdrianSutil]

The only thing I can remember about Nicholas Kiesa is he virtually came to a standstill whenever he got lapped in his debut race (Germany 2003).

I honestly thought he did enough for a drive in 2004 with Minardi. He was slow sure, but reliable. That's what Minardi always needed.

So was HWNSNBM. And I'm pretty sure he brought more money to boot as well. Bruni on the other hand...

Bruni was a nobody IMO. Never deserved a chance. All he did was moan.

[David AGS]

The only thing I can remember about Nicholas Kiesa is he virtually came to a standstill whenever he got lapped in his debut race (Germany 2003).

I honestly thought he did enough for a drive in 2004 with Minardi. He was slow sure, but reliable. That's what Minardi always needed.

He was actually confirmed for the drive in 2005, but the money didnt appearand Friesy took his seat (until his piggy bank went bust as well!)

[Shizuka]

The only thing I can remember about Nicholas Kiesa is he virtually came to a standstill whenever he got lapped in his debut race (Germany 2003).

I remember his Monaco win in F3000, passing Wirdheim, who slowed down before the finish line to celebrate

[JeremyMcClean]

The only thing I can remember about Nicholas Kiesa is he virtually came to a standstill whenever he got lapped in his debut race (Germany 2003).

I remember his Monaco win in F3000, passing Wirdheim, who slowed down before the finish line to celebrate

Wirdheim who?

[Phoenix]

The only thing I can remember about Nicholas Kiesa is he virtually came to a standstill whenever he got lapped in his debut race (Germany 2003).

I remember his Monaco win in F3000, passing Wirdheim, who slowed down before the finish line to celebrate

Wirdheim who?

The 2003 F3000 champion, against the likes of the equally forgettable Giorgio "F1 hates me" Pantano and Ricardo Sperafico, brother of the late Rafale Sperafico.

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The 2003 F3000 champion, against the likes of the equally forgettable Giorgio "F1 hates me" Pantano and Ricardo Sperafico, brother of the late Rafale Sperafico.

You forgot his other brother (Rodrigo if i remember correctly?) in that list

[Sunshine_Baby_[IT]]

The 2003 F3000 champion, against the likes of the equally forgettable Giorgio "F1 hates me" Pantano and Ricardo Sperafico, brother of the late Rafale Sperafico.

You forgot his other brother (Rodrigo if i remember correctly?) in that list

According to wikipedia, Ricardo and Rodrigo are brothers, and Rafael was their cousin.

[FMecha]

The only thing I can remember about Nicholas Kiesa is he virtually came to a standstill whenever he got lapped in his debut race (Germany 2003).

I honestly thought he did enough for a drive in 2004 with Minardi. He was slow sure, but reliable. That's what Minardi always needed.

So was HWNSNBM. And I'm pretty sure he brought more money to boot as well. Bruni on the other hand...

... was, worse?

[fjackdaw]

I remember Bruni being quite highly talked about before he actually joined F1, then made the smallest splash he possibly could whilst having a bad attitude to boot.

[dr-baker]

I remember Bruni being quite highly talked about before he actually joined F1, then made the smallest splash he possibly could whilst having a bad attitude to boot.

A clip of him in the Minardi still made it into a movie...

[Klon]

I remember Bruni being quite highly talked about before he actually joined F1, then made the smallest splash he possibly could whilst having a bad attitude to boot.

A clip of him in the Minardi still made it into a movie...

Max Papis was on-screen in at least one movie, so the question is just how much doesn that count.

[Ataxia]

Can I nominate Ralph Firman Jr.?

[CoopsII]

Can I nominate Ralph Firman Jr.?

I will second that nomination. Useless, posh and useless. I remember reading that he knew Ayrton Senna through his Father in the early eighties. I also remember thinking "So?"

[DanielPT]

Can I nominate Ralph Firman Jr.?

I will second that nomination. Useless, posh and useless. I remember reading that he knew Ayrton Senna through his Father in the early eighties. I also remember thinking "So?"

Had forgotten he drove in F1, really. He wasn't that bad results wise. Head-to-head with Fisichella was a tie although only in two races both of them crossed the line. Scored a point all season, which should have been one less than Fisi if not for that fluke victory in Brazil.

[CoopsII]

Ive already forgotten who we're discussing.....

[DanielPT]

Ive already forgotten who we're discussing.....

We were discussing about someone?

[James1978]

Speaking of drivers from 2003 I'd forgotten Justin Wilson too.

[CoopsII]

Speaking of drivers from 2003 I'd forgotten Justin Wilson too.

Ooops, I kinda stuck with JW into Indycars.

[dinizintheoven]

I could never forget Justin Wilson with all the problems he had being too tall to fit into a standard-dimensioned F1 car.

[DanielPT]

I could never forget Justin Wilson with all the problems he had being too tall to fit into a standard-dimensioned F1 car.

That was the first thing I remembered when I read James post. That perhaps was a real problem for him and hindered his Formula 1 foray.

[dinizintheoven]

But at least he's not as tall as Matt Neal.

[CoopsII]

I could never forget Justin Wilson with all the problems he had being too tall to fit into a standard-dimensioned F1 car.

And its another quirk of motoracing that Wilson, after being the equal and sometimes better of Webber, was left behind in F1. First Brit to be F3000 Champion too. Id say he was average in Indycar but not spectacular yet.

[AdrianSutil]

I could never forget Justin Wilson with all the problems he had being too tall to fit into a standard-dimensioned F1 car.

And its another quirk of motoracing that Wilson, after being the equal and sometimes better of Webber, was left behind in F1. First Brit to be F3000 Champion too. Id say he was average in Indycar but not spectacular yet.

He still scored a World Championship point. Which is something we could only dream about. Thats why I'll never forget Wilson.


Franck Montagny meanwhile...

[Ataxia]

For some reason, I have no memory of 2003 and 2004...I think I stopped buying F1 Racing at the beginning of '03 so that might be it...

[FullMetalJack]

Franck Montagny meanwhile...

He's forgettable because he was actually okay during his time at Super Aguri.

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Franck Montagny meanwhile...

He's forgettable because he was actually okay during his time at Super Aguri.

he was forgettable because he replaced yuji ide

[BlindCaveSalamander]

Franck Montagny meanwhile...

He's forgettable because he was actually okay during his time at Super Aguri.

he was forgettable because he replaced yuji ide

And was replaced by Sakon Yamamoto

[DanielPT]

Franck Montagny meanwhile...

He's forgettable because he was actually okay during his time at Super Aguri.

he was forgettable because he replaced yuji ide

Despite more than half a decade went by, it is still hard for me to contain the outrage at FIA revoking Ide's licence...

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i even think ide isn't worshipped enough by this forum. He was easily the best human driver of the 2000's!

[dr-baker]

i even think ide isn't worshipped enough by this forum. He was easily the best human driver of the 2000's!

Sounds like a reference to this old thread!!!!

[wmetcalf68]

Maybe Marc Surer?

[FantometteBR]

Maybe Marc Surer?

I half-agree. Surer had put some good results (he even did fastest lap at a Brazilian GP from early 80s) once in a while but his career didn't lived up to only effort some years with an Arrows

[tommykl]

Maybe Marc Surer?

I half-agree. Surer had put some good results (he even did fastest lap at a Brazilian GP from early 80s) once in a while but his career didn't lived up to only effort some years with an Arrows

I'd add drivers like John Nicholson and Warwick Brown.

[Barbazza]

I half-agree. Surer had put some good results (he even did fastest lap at a Brazilian GP from early 80s) once in a while but his career didn't lived up to only effort some years with an Arrows

He's not forgettable to me as I always really liked him - it was a real disappointment to me that when he finally got a decent car - the 85 Brabham - although he scored a few points, the one race where he did really well and was on for a podium (Brands I think) the car let him down.

[fjackdaw]

I remember Bruni being quite highly talked about before he actually joined F1, then made the smallest splash he possibly could whilst having a bad attitude to boot.

A clip of him in the Minardi still made it into a movie...

Max Papis was on-screen in at least one movie, so the question is just how much doesn that count.

Olivier Panis's helmet is in Taxi. Does that count for anything?

[CoopsII]

Norberto Fontano.

I think he had two cracks at F1, one with Jordan. All I can recall is a photo of him taping his fingers up prior to putting his gloves on. But he did that well, to be fair.

[ibsey]

I half-agree. Surer had put some good results (he even did fastest lap at a Brazilian GP from early 80s) once in a while but his career didn't lived up to only effort some years with an Arrows

He's not forgettable to me as I always really liked him - it was a real disappointment to me that when he finally got a decent car - the 85 Brabham - although he scored a few points, the one race where he did really well and was on for a podium (Brands I think) the car let him down.

Also I think Surer was doing pretty well in Monaco 1983, where he was running in very respectable 4th in the Arrows. Before Derek Warwick decided to pun him out at St Devote.

Phillipe Adams, now there a name I forgot had ever taken part in a GP until recently. I think he only took part in one race, Belgium 1994, & didn't do much in it. Which does help him become forgettable.

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Phillipe Adams, now there a name I forgot had ever taken part in a GP until recently. I think he only took part in one race, Belgium 1994, & didn't do much in it. Which does help him become forgettable.

In fact, so did everybody in his home country

[shinji]

Norberto Fontano.

I think he had two cracks at F1, one with Jordan. All I can recall is a photo of him taping his fingers up prior to putting his gloves on. But he did that well, to be fair.

Gotta correct you there - he was only in F1 once, with Sauber in '97. No dalliance with Jordan whatsoever.

Remembered only for his slightly/arguably controversial input into the Schumacher vs. Villeneuve battle at Jerez that year.

[East Londoner]

Ernesto Tuero

Apart from his spectacular crash with Takagi in his last race, I can't seem to remember him doing anything memorable. If he had stayed on in F1, could he have been the next Nick Heidfeld? (He is a year younger than Sir Slightly Bored...)