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Jacques Laffite 34 (2 wins, 1 2nd)
Patrick Tambay 30 (2 wins, 2 2nd)
Didier Pironi 28 (1 win, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
James Hunt 24 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Emerson Fittipaldi 21 (1 win, 3 3rd)
Clay Regazzoni 20 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Hans-Joachim Stuck 19 (2 wins)
Riccardo Patrese 19 (2 wins)
Mario Andretti 17 (1 win, 1 2nd) (I'm amazed he scored at all here too!)
Alan Jones 17 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Brett Lunger 16 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Jean-Pierre Jarier 14 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Vittorio Brambilla 12 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Jody Scheckter 11 (1 win)
Jochen Mass 11 (2 3rd)
Bruno Giacomelli 11 (1 3rd)
Rene Arnoux 10 (1 3rd)
Gilles Villeneuve 9 (1 2nd)
Rolf Stommelen 8 (2 4th)
Keke Rosberg 7 (1 2nd)
Jean-Pierre Jabouille 7 (1 3rd)
Carlos Reutemann/Derek Daly/Nelson Piquet all 6 (1 2nd)
John Watson 6 (2 4th)
Hector Rebaque 5 (1 4th)
Harald Ertl 4 (1 3rd)
Rupert Keegan/Bobby Rahal both 1 (1 6th)
What looked to be a great fight between the three Frenchmen peters out at the last race - with Laffite out, the door was open for Pironi and Tambay but they were both among the last unlapped runners. Incidentally, Laffite effectively "cheated" to win the title again - in Belgium he crashed on the last lap to be classified as the first lapped runner. If he hadn't done that, Pironi would have been champion, as he would have gained the extra 3 points to beat Tambay!
Stuck and Jarier are the only sort-of obscure winners here - that's probably becuase the field this season had a lot of former/future champions and winners in it!
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by James1978 » 12 Jul 2011, 22:09
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by Ferrim » 13 Jul 2011, 04:47
James1978 wrote:BTW - once I get into the 80s, I will do a constructors championship too (I didn't really understand how it worked before 1981!) and also start summarising at the end who won each race, as other people are doing for their alternative championships.
They only scored points with the car that finished best, I think.
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by James1978 » 13 Jul 2011, 04:49
1979
Emerson Fittipaldi 31 (1 win, 2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Jochen Mass 29 (1 win, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Jody Scheckter 28 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Nelson Piquet 27 (1 win, 1 2nd, 3 3rd)
John Watson 25 (27) (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Gilles Villeneuve 22 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Jean-Pierre Jarier 20 (2 wins)
Didier Pironi 19 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Rene Arnoux 18 (2 wins)
Elio De Angelis 11 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Patrick Tambay 11 (1 4th)
Hans-Joachim Stuck 10 (1 2nd, 1 4th)
Riccardo Patrese 10 (1 2nd, 1 5th)
Niki Lauda/Patrick Depailler/Mario Andretti all 9 (1 win)
Jacky Ickx 9 (1 2nd)
Jan Lammers 9 (2 4th) - unrejectified!
Alan Jones 8 (1 2nd)
Derek Daly 7 (1 3rd)
Jacques Laffite/Geoff Lees both 6 (1 2nd)
Hector Rebaque 6 (1 4th)
Keke Rosberg/James Hunt both 4 (1 3rd)
Clay Regazzoni/Jean-Pierre Jabouille both 4 (1 4th)
Ricardo Zunino 3 (1 4th)
Vittiorio Brambilla 2 (1 5th)
Carlos Reutemann 1 (1 6th)
Another champion wins, though he's driving for an odd team! Indeed that year's real champion Scheckter only misses out by 3 points, that could be the closest the real champion ever comes to winning this. The strange scoring system that year didn't affect things much, only John Watson had to drop a single 5th place.
Emerson Fittipaldi 31 (1 win, 2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Jochen Mass 29 (1 win, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Jody Scheckter 28 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Nelson Piquet 27 (1 win, 1 2nd, 3 3rd)
John Watson 25 (27) (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Gilles Villeneuve 22 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Jean-Pierre Jarier 20 (2 wins)
Didier Pironi 19 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Rene Arnoux 18 (2 wins)
Elio De Angelis 11 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Patrick Tambay 11 (1 4th)
Hans-Joachim Stuck 10 (1 2nd, 1 4th)
Riccardo Patrese 10 (1 2nd, 1 5th)
Niki Lauda/Patrick Depailler/Mario Andretti all 9 (1 win)
Jacky Ickx 9 (1 2nd)
Jan Lammers 9 (2 4th) - unrejectified!
Alan Jones 8 (1 2nd)
Derek Daly 7 (1 3rd)
Jacques Laffite/Geoff Lees both 6 (1 2nd)
Hector Rebaque 6 (1 4th)
Keke Rosberg/James Hunt both 4 (1 3rd)
Clay Regazzoni/Jean-Pierre Jabouille both 4 (1 4th)
Ricardo Zunino 3 (1 4th)
Vittiorio Brambilla 2 (1 5th)
Carlos Reutemann 1 (1 6th)
Another champion wins, though he's driving for an odd team! Indeed that year's real champion Scheckter only misses out by 3 points, that could be the closest the real champion ever comes to winning this. The strange scoring system that year didn't affect things much, only John Watson had to drop a single 5th place.
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by James1978 » 13 Jul 2011, 07:05
1980
Gilles Villeneuve 34 (2 wins, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Riccardo Patrese 25 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Jochen Mass 24 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Jean-Pierre Jarier 22 (3 2nd, 1 3rd)
John Watson 21 (2 wins)
Rene Arnoux 20 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Derek Daly 20 (1 win, 1 2nd, 2 5th)
Jody Scheckter 18 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Alain Prost 17 (1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Marc Surer 17 (1 2nd, 3 4th)
Hector Rebaque 16 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Keke Rosberg 16 (1 2nd)
Mario Andretti 15 (2 2nd)
Jacques Laffite 14 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Elio De Angelis 12 (1 win, 1 5th)
Emerson Fittipladi 10 (1 3rd)
Bruno Giacomelli/Carlos Reutemann both 9 (1 win)
Ricardo Zunino 9 (2 3rd) - a double podium for another profiled reject!!
Didier Pironi 8 (2 3rd)
Patrick Depailler 3 (1 4th)
Clay Regazzoni/Rupert Keegan/Alan Jones all 2 (1 5th)
Jan Lammers 1 (1 6th)
Yet again a legend of the sport wins the lapped championship which I find staggering! We're back to getting some fairly obscure winners again though in Daly and Rebaque.
Gilles Villeneuve 34 (2 wins, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Riccardo Patrese 25 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Jochen Mass 24 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Jean-Pierre Jarier 22 (3 2nd, 1 3rd)
John Watson 21 (2 wins)
Rene Arnoux 20 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Derek Daly 20 (1 win, 1 2nd, 2 5th)
Jody Scheckter 18 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Alain Prost 17 (1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Marc Surer 17 (1 2nd, 3 4th)
Hector Rebaque 16 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Keke Rosberg 16 (1 2nd)
Mario Andretti 15 (2 2nd)
Jacques Laffite 14 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Elio De Angelis 12 (1 win, 1 5th)
Emerson Fittipladi 10 (1 3rd)
Bruno Giacomelli/Carlos Reutemann both 9 (1 win)
Ricardo Zunino 9 (2 3rd) - a double podium for another profiled reject!!
Didier Pironi 8 (2 3rd)
Patrick Depailler 3 (1 4th)
Clay Regazzoni/Rupert Keegan/Alan Jones all 2 (1 5th)
Jan Lammers 1 (1 6th)
Yet again a legend of the sport wins the lapped championship which I find staggering! We're back to getting some fairly obscure winners again though in Daly and Rebaque.
"If you don't stop pointing your finger at me, I'll snap it off and shove it up your arse". (David Purley to Niki Lauda, 1977)
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by James1978 » 14 Jul 2011, 08:29
1981
Elio De Angelis 40 (2 wins, 3 2nd, 1 3rd)
Didier Pironi 30 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Patrick Tambay 23 (1 win, 2 3rd)
Mario Andretti 23 (1 win, 1 3rd)
John Watson 22 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Marc Surer 19 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Nelson Piquet 17 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Keke Rosberg 16 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Chico Serra 15 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Hector Rebaque 15 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Bruno Giacomelli 15 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Andrea De Cesaris 15 (2 2nd)
Rene Arnoux 13 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Eddie Cheever 12 (2 2nd)
Jean-Pierre Jarier 11 (1 3rd)
Carlos Reutemann 10 (1 win)
Jacques Laffite 9 (1 win)
Riccardo Patrese 9 (1 2nd)
Eliseo Salazar 7 (1 3rd)
Nigel Mansell 7 (1 3rd)
Derek Daly 7 (3 5th)
Michele Alboreto 6 (1 3rd)
Siegfried Stohr 3 (2 4th)
Slim Borgudd 4 (1 4th)
Piercarlo Ghinzani 3 (1 4th)
Alan Jones 3 (1 5th)
Gilles Villeneuve 2 (1 5th)
Brian Henton 2 (1 5th)
Ricardo Zunino 1 (1 6th)
Lotus 47
Alfa Romeo 38
McLaren 37
Brabham 32
Ferrari 32
Fittipaldi 31
Theodore 26
Ensign 23
Tyrrell 19
Arrows 15
Osella 14
Renault 13
Williams 13
Ligier 9
March 7
ATS 4
Toleman 2
Race winners:
USA West: Tambay (in a Theodore!!)
Brazil: Watson
Argentina: De Angelis
San Marino: Arnoux
Belgium: Andretti
Monaco: Pironi
Spain: Serra (indeed it was a Fittipaldi 1-2!!!!)
France: Pironi
Great Britain: Laffite
Germany: Watson
Austria: De Angelis
Holland: Rebaque
Italy: Piquet
Canada: Giacomelli
Las Vegas: Reutemann (maybe that's why he was so crap there......)
It was inevitable De Angelis would win at some point as he seems to be the kings of the alternative championships!!!
Elio De Angelis 40 (2 wins, 3 2nd, 1 3rd)
Didier Pironi 30 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Patrick Tambay 23 (1 win, 2 3rd)
Mario Andretti 23 (1 win, 1 3rd)
John Watson 22 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Marc Surer 19 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Nelson Piquet 17 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Keke Rosberg 16 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Chico Serra 15 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Hector Rebaque 15 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Bruno Giacomelli 15 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Andrea De Cesaris 15 (2 2nd)
Rene Arnoux 13 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Eddie Cheever 12 (2 2nd)
Jean-Pierre Jarier 11 (1 3rd)
Carlos Reutemann 10 (1 win)
Jacques Laffite 9 (1 win)
Riccardo Patrese 9 (1 2nd)
Eliseo Salazar 7 (1 3rd)
Nigel Mansell 7 (1 3rd)
Derek Daly 7 (3 5th)
Michele Alboreto 6 (1 3rd)
Siegfried Stohr 3 (2 4th)
Slim Borgudd 4 (1 4th)
Piercarlo Ghinzani 3 (1 4th)
Alan Jones 3 (1 5th)
Gilles Villeneuve 2 (1 5th)
Brian Henton 2 (1 5th)
Ricardo Zunino 1 (1 6th)
Lotus 47
Alfa Romeo 38
McLaren 37
Brabham 32
Ferrari 32
Fittipaldi 31
Theodore 26
Ensign 23
Tyrrell 19
Arrows 15
Osella 14
Renault 13
Williams 13
Ligier 9
March 7
ATS 4
Toleman 2
Race winners:
USA West: Tambay (in a Theodore!!)
Brazil: Watson
Argentina: De Angelis
San Marino: Arnoux
Belgium: Andretti
Monaco: Pironi
Spain: Serra (indeed it was a Fittipaldi 1-2!!!!)
France: Pironi
Great Britain: Laffite
Germany: Watson
Austria: De Angelis
Holland: Rebaque
Italy: Piquet
Canada: Giacomelli
Las Vegas: Reutemann (maybe that's why he was so crap there......)
It was inevitable De Angelis would win at some point as he seems to be the kings of the alternative championships!!!
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by James1978 » 15 Jul 2011, 06:20
1982
He does it again!!
Elio De Angelis 37 (2 wins, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Derek Daly 33 (3 wins)
Michele Alboreto 31 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Marc Surer 22 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Bruno Giacomelli 21 (1 win, 2 3rd)
Jacques Laffite 18 (2 wins)
Brian Henton 18 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Mauro Baldi 17 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Didier Pironi 16 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Jochen Mass 16 (1 2nd)
Eddie Cheever 15 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Manfred Winkelhock 14 (1 win, 1 4th)
Andrea De Cesaris 14 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Nigel Mansell 14 (3 3rd)
Nelson Piquet 13 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Keke Rosberg 12 (1 win, 1 4th)
Eliseo Salazar 12 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Jean-Pierre Jarier 11 (1 win, 1 5th)
Niki Lauda 10 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Patrick Tambay 9 (1 2nd)
John Watson 8 (1 2nd)
Riccardo Patrese 6 (1 2nd)
Chico Serra 6 (1 4th)
Slim Borgudd 5 (1 3rd)
Raul Boesel 3 (1 5th)
Rene Arnoux 2 (1 5th)
Alain Prost 2 (2 6th)
Roberto Guerrero 1 (1 6th)
Geoff Lees 1 (1 6th)
Tyrrell 54
Lotus 52
Williams 45
Arrows 39
Alfa Romeo 35
Ligier 33
ATS 26
Ferrari 25
Brabham 19 (beat March on countback)
March 19
McLaren 18
Osella 11
Fittipaldi 6
Renault 4
Ensign 1
Race winners:
South Africa: Alboreto
Brazil: Winkelhock
Long Beach: De Angelis
San Marino: Jarier
Belgium: Cheever
Monaco: Pironi (only Patrese completed the full distance)
Detroit: Laffite
Canada: De Angelis
Holland: Daly
Great Britain: Giacomelli
France: Daly
Germany: Rosberg
Austria: Laffite
Dijon: Piquet
Italy: Alboreto
Las Vegas: Daly
He does it again!!
Elio De Angelis 37 (2 wins, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Derek Daly 33 (3 wins)
Michele Alboreto 31 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Marc Surer 22 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Bruno Giacomelli 21 (1 win, 2 3rd)
Jacques Laffite 18 (2 wins)
Brian Henton 18 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Mauro Baldi 17 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Didier Pironi 16 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Jochen Mass 16 (1 2nd)
Eddie Cheever 15 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Manfred Winkelhock 14 (1 win, 1 4th)
Andrea De Cesaris 14 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Nigel Mansell 14 (3 3rd)
Nelson Piquet 13 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Keke Rosberg 12 (1 win, 1 4th)
Eliseo Salazar 12 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Jean-Pierre Jarier 11 (1 win, 1 5th)
Niki Lauda 10 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Patrick Tambay 9 (1 2nd)
John Watson 8 (1 2nd)
Riccardo Patrese 6 (1 2nd)
Chico Serra 6 (1 4th)
Slim Borgudd 5 (1 3rd)
Raul Boesel 3 (1 5th)
Rene Arnoux 2 (1 5th)
Alain Prost 2 (2 6th)
Roberto Guerrero 1 (1 6th)
Geoff Lees 1 (1 6th)
Tyrrell 54
Lotus 52
Williams 45
Arrows 39
Alfa Romeo 35
Ligier 33
ATS 26
Ferrari 25
Brabham 19 (beat March on countback)
March 19
McLaren 18
Osella 11
Fittipaldi 6
Renault 4
Ensign 1
Race winners:
South Africa: Alboreto
Brazil: Winkelhock
Long Beach: De Angelis
San Marino: Jarier
Belgium: Cheever
Monaco: Pironi (only Patrese completed the full distance)
Detroit: Laffite
Canada: De Angelis
Holland: Daly
Great Britain: Giacomelli
France: Daly
Germany: Rosberg
Austria: Laffite
Dijon: Piquet
Italy: Alboreto
Las Vegas: Daly
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by James1978 » 15 Jul 2011, 22:45
1983
Marc Surer 31 (2 2nd, 3 3rd)
Keke Rosberg 30 (1 win, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
John Watson 24 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd, 1 4th, 1 5th)
Jacques Laffite 23 (1 win, 2 2nd)
Alain Prost 22 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Rene Arnoux 22 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd, 1 4th)
Jean-Pierre Jarier 20 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Nigel Mansell 19 (2 wins)
Danny Sullivan 19 (1 win, 2 4th)
Michele Alboreto 17 (1 win, 2 4th)
Thierry Boutsen 16 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Niki Lauda 15 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Derek Warwick 15 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Mauro Baldi 13 (2 2nd)
Johnny Cecotto 13 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Manfred Winkelhock 11 (1 win)
Elio De Angelis 9 (1 win)
Chico Serra 9 (2 3rd)
Raul Boesel 9 (1 4th)
Eddie Cheever 8 (2 3rd)
Stefan Johansson 6 (1 2nd) - a podium for Spirit!
Andrea De Cesaris 4 (1 3rd)
Roberto Guerrero 4 (2 5th)
Bruno Giacomelli 3 (1 4th)
Riccardo Patrese 3 (1 4th)
Corrado Fabi 3 (3 6th)
Jonathan Palmer 1 (1 6th)
Arrows 56
Williams 54
McLaren 39
Tyrrell 36
Renault 30
Ligier 29
Lotus 28
Ferrari 22
Toleman 18
Alfa Romeo 17 (ahead on countback)
Theodore 17
ATS 11
Spirit 6
Brabham 3
Osella 3
Race winners:
Brazil: Prost
Long Beach: Laffite
France: Rosberg
San Marino: Arnoux
Monaco: Sullivan (!)
Belgium: De Angelis
Detroit: Mansell
Canada: Prost
Great Britain: Lauda
Germany: Watson
Austria: Mansell
Holland: Alboreto
Italy: Jarier
Europe: Winkelhock
South Africa: Warwick
Surer wins championship, and Aroows win constructors without winning a race, but it should have been Rosberg's and Williams' - I remember reading at Monza Rosberg was penalised for going outside the track boundaries at the start, and that penatly here cost him the lapped win and dropped him to 3rd, and it also promoted Surer to 2nd.
I'm amazed at how many points Prost and Arnoux get as they were battling for the real championship - especiallly as Piquet and Tambay don't score at all!
Marc Surer 31 (2 2nd, 3 3rd)
Keke Rosberg 30 (1 win, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
John Watson 24 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd, 1 4th, 1 5th)
Jacques Laffite 23 (1 win, 2 2nd)
Alain Prost 22 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Rene Arnoux 22 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd, 1 4th)
Jean-Pierre Jarier 20 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Nigel Mansell 19 (2 wins)
Danny Sullivan 19 (1 win, 2 4th)
Michele Alboreto 17 (1 win, 2 4th)
Thierry Boutsen 16 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Niki Lauda 15 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Derek Warwick 15 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Mauro Baldi 13 (2 2nd)
Johnny Cecotto 13 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Manfred Winkelhock 11 (1 win)
Elio De Angelis 9 (1 win)
Chico Serra 9 (2 3rd)
Raul Boesel 9 (1 4th)
Eddie Cheever 8 (2 3rd)
Stefan Johansson 6 (1 2nd) - a podium for Spirit!
Andrea De Cesaris 4 (1 3rd)
Roberto Guerrero 4 (2 5th)
Bruno Giacomelli 3 (1 4th)
Riccardo Patrese 3 (1 4th)
Corrado Fabi 3 (3 6th)
Jonathan Palmer 1 (1 6th)
Arrows 56
Williams 54
McLaren 39
Tyrrell 36
Renault 30
Ligier 29
Lotus 28
Ferrari 22
Toleman 18
Alfa Romeo 17 (ahead on countback)
Theodore 17
ATS 11
Spirit 6
Brabham 3
Osella 3
Race winners:
Brazil: Prost
Long Beach: Laffite
France: Rosberg
San Marino: Arnoux
Monaco: Sullivan (!)
Belgium: De Angelis
Detroit: Mansell
Canada: Prost
Great Britain: Lauda
Germany: Watson
Austria: Mansell
Holland: Alboreto
Italy: Jarier
Europe: Winkelhock
South Africa: Warwick
Surer wins championship, and Aroows win constructors without winning a race, but it should have been Rosberg's and Williams' - I remember reading at Monza Rosberg was penalised for going outside the track boundaries at the start, and that penatly here cost him the lapped win and dropped him to 3rd, and it also promoted Surer to 2nd.
I'm amazed at how many points Prost and Arnoux get as they were battling for the real championship - especiallly as Piquet and Tambay don't score at all!
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by James1978 » 16 Jul 2011, 00:36
1984
And it's our first triple champion, and highest ever points total!!!
Elio De Angelis 53 (5 wins, 1 2nd)
Riccardo Patrese 29 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Rene Arnoux 26 (1 win, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Jacques Laffite 21 (1 win, 1 2nd, 2 3rd*)
Thierry Boutsen 21 (1 win, 2 3rd)
Andrea De Cesaris 21 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Patrick Tambay 21 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Keke Rosberg 20 (2 wins)
Derek Warwick 16 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Nelson Piquet 13 (1 win, 1 4th)
Francois Hesnault 12 (1 3rd)
Eddie Cheever 11 (1 win)
Marc Surer 11 (1 2nd)
Michele Alboreto 10.5 (1 win*, 1 2nd)
Piercarlo Ghinzani 10 (1 2nd*, 1 3rd)
Ayrton Senna 10 (1 3rd)
Teo Fabi 9 (1 2nd)
Stefan Johansson 7 (1 2nd)
Nigel Mansell 7 (1 3rd)
Alain Prost 6 (1 2nd)
Mauro Baldi 6 (1 3rd)
Jonathan Palmer 5 (2 5th)
Manfred Winkelhock 5 (2 5th)
Jo Gartner 4 (1 3rd)
Huub Rothengatter 4 (1 4th)
Gerhard Berger 3 (1 4th)
Corrado Fabi 2 (1 5th)
Johnny Cecotto 1 (1 6th)
Lotus 60
Williams 41
Alfa Romeo 40
Renault 37
Ferrari 36.5
Ligier 33
Arrows 32
Brabham 26
Toleman 18
Osella 14
Spirit 10
McLaren 6
ATS 6
RAM 6
Race winners:
Brazil: Cheever
South Africa: Warwick
Belgium: Rosberg
San Marino: De Angelis
France: Rosberg
Monaco: Alboreto (for half points)
Canada: De Angelis
Detroit: Laffite
Dallas: De Angelis
Great Britain: De Angelis
Germany: Arnoux
Austria: Boutsen
Holland: De Angelis
Italy: Patrese
Europe: Patrese
Portugal: Piquet
Well consider me staggered! De Angelis got lapped a lot more than I thought he would due to the dominance of McLaren (who only got one points finish when Prost was delayed in France). Now we're well into the turbo era a lot of "winners" actually ran out of fuel!
And it's our first triple champion, and highest ever points total!!!
Elio De Angelis 53 (5 wins, 1 2nd)
Riccardo Patrese 29 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Rene Arnoux 26 (1 win, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Jacques Laffite 21 (1 win, 1 2nd, 2 3rd*)
Thierry Boutsen 21 (1 win, 2 3rd)
Andrea De Cesaris 21 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Patrick Tambay 21 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Keke Rosberg 20 (2 wins)
Derek Warwick 16 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Nelson Piquet 13 (1 win, 1 4th)
Francois Hesnault 12 (1 3rd)
Eddie Cheever 11 (1 win)
Marc Surer 11 (1 2nd)
Michele Alboreto 10.5 (1 win*, 1 2nd)
Piercarlo Ghinzani 10 (1 2nd*, 1 3rd)
Ayrton Senna 10 (1 3rd)
Teo Fabi 9 (1 2nd)
Stefan Johansson 7 (1 2nd)
Nigel Mansell 7 (1 3rd)
Alain Prost 6 (1 2nd)
Mauro Baldi 6 (1 3rd)
Jonathan Palmer 5 (2 5th)
Manfred Winkelhock 5 (2 5th)
Jo Gartner 4 (1 3rd)
Huub Rothengatter 4 (1 4th)
Gerhard Berger 3 (1 4th)
Corrado Fabi 2 (1 5th)
Johnny Cecotto 1 (1 6th)
Lotus 60
Williams 41
Alfa Romeo 40
Renault 37
Ferrari 36.5
Ligier 33
Arrows 32
Brabham 26
Toleman 18
Osella 14
Spirit 10
McLaren 6
ATS 6
RAM 6
Race winners:
Brazil: Cheever
South Africa: Warwick
Belgium: Rosberg
San Marino: De Angelis
France: Rosberg
Monaco: Alboreto (for half points)
Canada: De Angelis
Detroit: Laffite
Dallas: De Angelis
Great Britain: De Angelis
Germany: Arnoux
Austria: Boutsen
Holland: De Angelis
Italy: Patrese
Europe: Patrese
Portugal: Piquet
Well consider me staggered! De Angelis got lapped a lot more than I thought he would due to the dominance of McLaren (who only got one points finish when Prost was delayed in France). Now we're well into the turbo era a lot of "winners" actually ran out of fuel!
"If you don't stop pointing your finger at me, I'll snap it off and shove it up your arse". (David Purley to Niki Lauda, 1977)
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by James1978 » 16 Jul 2011, 20:08
1985
Thierry Boutsen 42 (1 win, 3 2nd, 2 3rd)
Elio De Angelis 39 (3 wins, 2 2nd)
Patrick Tambay 34 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Stefan Johansson 30 (1 win, 2 2nd, 1 3rd) - includes 2 points for Tyrrell in Brazil
Nelson Piquet 25 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Gerhard Berger 25 (1 win, 3 3rd)
Jacques Laffite 19 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Stefan Bellof 18 (2 2nd)
Derek Warwick 17 (2 2nd)
Nigel Mansell 16 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Martin Brundle 15 (1 3rd)
Andrea De Cesaris 11 (1 win)
Michele Alboreto/Alain Prost/Ivan Capelli all 9 (1 win) (Capelli who only did 2 races tying with the main championship contenders makes me laugh!)
Riccardo Patrese 8 (2 4th)
Eddie Cheever 7 (1 3rd)
Rene Arnoux 6 (1 2nd)
Huub Rothengatter 6 (2 4th)
Philippe Streiff 6 (1 4th)
Niki Lauda 4 (1 3rd)
John Watson 4 (1 3rd)
Pierluigi Martini 4 (2 5th)
Keke Rosberg 3 (1 5th)
Manfred Winkelhock 2 (1 5th)
Ayrton Senna 1 (1 6th)
Arrows 67
Brabham 53
Renault 51
Tyrrell 44 (I've amalgamated their scores using Cosworths and Renault turbos)
Ferrari 43
Lotus 40
Ligier 36
Williams 19
McLaren 17
Alfa Romeo 15
Osella 6
Minardi 4
RAM 2
Race winners:
Brazil: De Angelis
Portugal: Tambay
San Marino: Boutsen
Monaco: De Cesaris
Canada: Tambay
Detroit: Piquet
France: Surer
Great Britain: Alboreto
Germany: Berger
Austria: Surer
Holland: De Angelis
Italy: Johansson
Belgium: Piquet
Europe: De Angelis
South Africa: Prost
Australia: Capelli
SO close to a 4th title for De Angelis in his last full season - he was among the last unlapped runners in a few races (Monaco, Austria, France) too, so what could have been. Boutsen was very steady though.
Thierry Boutsen 42 (1 win, 3 2nd, 2 3rd)
Elio De Angelis 39 (3 wins, 2 2nd)
Patrick Tambay 34 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Stefan Johansson 30 (1 win, 2 2nd, 1 3rd) - includes 2 points for Tyrrell in Brazil
Nelson Piquet 25 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Gerhard Berger 25 (1 win, 3 3rd)
Jacques Laffite 19 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Stefan Bellof 18 (2 2nd)
Derek Warwick 17 (2 2nd)
Nigel Mansell 16 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Martin Brundle 15 (1 3rd)
Andrea De Cesaris 11 (1 win)
Michele Alboreto/Alain Prost/Ivan Capelli all 9 (1 win) (Capelli who only did 2 races tying with the main championship contenders makes me laugh!)
Riccardo Patrese 8 (2 4th)
Eddie Cheever 7 (1 3rd)
Rene Arnoux 6 (1 2nd)
Huub Rothengatter 6 (2 4th)
Philippe Streiff 6 (1 4th)
Niki Lauda 4 (1 3rd)
John Watson 4 (1 3rd)
Pierluigi Martini 4 (2 5th)
Keke Rosberg 3 (1 5th)
Manfred Winkelhock 2 (1 5th)
Ayrton Senna 1 (1 6th)
Arrows 67
Brabham 53
Renault 51
Tyrrell 44 (I've amalgamated their scores using Cosworths and Renault turbos)
Ferrari 43
Lotus 40
Ligier 36
Williams 19
McLaren 17
Alfa Romeo 15
Osella 6
Minardi 4
RAM 2
Race winners:
Brazil: De Angelis
Portugal: Tambay
San Marino: Boutsen
Monaco: De Cesaris
Canada: Tambay
Detroit: Piquet
France: Surer
Great Britain: Alboreto
Germany: Berger
Austria: Surer
Holland: De Angelis
Italy: Johansson
Belgium: Piquet
Europe: De Angelis
South Africa: Prost
Australia: Capelli
SO close to a 4th title for De Angelis in his last full season - he was among the last unlapped runners in a few races (Monaco, Austria, France) too, so what could have been. Boutsen was very steady though.
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by James1978 » 17 Jul 2011, 04:51
1986
Rene Arnoux 35 (2 wins, 2 2nd)
Gerhard Berger 33 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Stefan Johansson 32 (1 win, 3 2nd, 1 3rd)
Martin Brundle 27 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Nigel Mansell 24 (2 wins, 1 2nd) (!!!!)
Keke Rosberg 22 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Michele Alboreto 21 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Riccardo Patrese 19 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Ayrton Senna 18 (2 wins)
Teo Fabi 18 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Philippe Streiff 17 (2 3rd)
Jacques Laffite 16 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Johnny Dumfries 16 (2 3rd)
Alain Prost 15 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Alan Jones 15 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Thierry Boutsen 15 (1 3rd)
Nelson Piquet 13 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Patrick Tambay 10 (2 4th)
Derek Warwick 8 (1 3rd)
Marc Surer 4 (1 3rd)
Christian Danner 6 (1 4th)
Philippe Alliot 5 (1 3rd)
Elio De Angelis 3 (1 4th)
Jonathan Palmer 3 (1 4th)
Andrea De Cesaris 2 (1 5th)
Ligier 56
Ferrari 53
Benetton 51
Tyrrell 44
McLaren & Williams both 37 (impossible to separate on countback as they both have 3 wins, 1 2nd and 1 3rd)
Lotus 34
Brabham 30
Arrows 27
Lola 25
Zakspeed 3
Minardi 2
Race winners:
Brazil: Brundle
Spain: Rosberg
San Marino: Berger
Monaco: Arnoux
Belgium: Fabi
Canada: Senna
Detroit: Mansell
France: Arnoux
Great Britain: Prost
Germany: Rosberg
Hungary: Mansell
Austria: Alboreto
Italy: Berger
Portugal: Senna
Mexico: Piquet
Australia: Johansson
Please to see Arnoux win this after narrowly missing out on the No Real Champions title. A lot of winners were ones who ran out of fuel again, but it's alarming how often one of the really top drivers that year won races without running out of fuel (ie Mansell in Hungary and Detroit, Piquet in Mexico, Prost at Brands, Senna in Canada etc)
Rene Arnoux 35 (2 wins, 2 2nd)
Gerhard Berger 33 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Stefan Johansson 32 (1 win, 3 2nd, 1 3rd)
Martin Brundle 27 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Nigel Mansell 24 (2 wins, 1 2nd) (!!!!)
Keke Rosberg 22 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Michele Alboreto 21 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Riccardo Patrese 19 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Ayrton Senna 18 (2 wins)
Teo Fabi 18 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Philippe Streiff 17 (2 3rd)
Jacques Laffite 16 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Johnny Dumfries 16 (2 3rd)
Alain Prost 15 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Alan Jones 15 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Thierry Boutsen 15 (1 3rd)
Nelson Piquet 13 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Patrick Tambay 10 (2 4th)
Derek Warwick 8 (1 3rd)
Marc Surer 4 (1 3rd)
Christian Danner 6 (1 4th)
Philippe Alliot 5 (1 3rd)
Elio De Angelis 3 (1 4th)
Jonathan Palmer 3 (1 4th)
Andrea De Cesaris 2 (1 5th)
Ligier 56
Ferrari 53
Benetton 51
Tyrrell 44
McLaren & Williams both 37 (impossible to separate on countback as they both have 3 wins, 1 2nd and 1 3rd)
Lotus 34
Brabham 30
Arrows 27
Lola 25
Zakspeed 3
Minardi 2
Race winners:
Brazil: Brundle
Spain: Rosberg
San Marino: Berger
Monaco: Arnoux
Belgium: Fabi
Canada: Senna
Detroit: Mansell
France: Arnoux
Great Britain: Prost
Germany: Rosberg
Hungary: Mansell
Austria: Alboreto
Italy: Berger
Portugal: Senna
Mexico: Piquet
Australia: Johansson
Please to see Arnoux win this after narrowly missing out on the No Real Champions title. A lot of winners were ones who ran out of fuel again, but it's alarming how often one of the really top drivers that year won races without running out of fuel (ie Mansell in Hungary and Detroit, Piquet in Mexico, Prost at Brands, Senna in Canada etc)
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by James1978 » 17 Jul 2011, 05:34
1987
Teo Fabi 47 (4 wins, 1 2nd)
Ayrton Senna 35 (3 wins, 1 3rd)
Thierry Boutsen 35 (3 wins, 1 2nd)
Jonathan Palmer 34 (3 2nd, 2 3rd)
Satoru Nakajima 27 (2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Eddie Cheever 26 (2 2nd, 3 3rd)
Philippe Streiff 25 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Philippe Alliot 20 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Nigel Mansell 15 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Alain Prost 15 (1 win, 1 4th)
Christian Danner 15 (2 3rd)
Stefan Johansson 14 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Martin Brundle 13 (1 win, 1 4th) - a win for Zakspeed!!!!
Derek Warwick 13 (2 3rd)
Riccardo Patrese 12 (1 2nd)
Andrea De Cesaris 10 (1 win)
Gerhard Berger 9 (1 win)
Piercarlo Ghinzani 9 (1 2nd)
Rene Arnoux 7 (2 4th)
Yannick Dalmas 6 (1 3rd)
Ivan Capelli 5 (1 3rd)
Michele Alboreto 3 (1 4th)
Roberto Moreno 3 (1 4th)
Pascal Fabre 1 (1 6th)
Piquet I believe is the only regular not to score.
Benetton 82
Lotus 62
Tyrrell 59
Arrows 39
McLaren 29
Zakspeed 28
Lola 26
Brabham 22
Ligier 16
Williams 15
Ferrari 12
March 5
AGS 4
Race winners:
Brazil: Boutsen
San Marino: Brundle
Belgium: De Cesaris
Monaco: Berger
Detroit: Mansell
France: Senna
Great Britain: Senna
Germany: Senna
Hungary: Boutsen
Austria: Fabi
Italy: Fabi
Portugal: Fabi
Spain: Alliot
Mexico: Fabi
Japan: Prost
Australia: Boutsen
Well this one was a surprise! I didn't think the Benettons would finish enough races but when they did they were usually among the first lapped. Senna also does remakably well considering! I always expected Tyrrell to do well in this due to good reliability. And there's a win for Philippe Alliot!!!!
Teo Fabi 47 (4 wins, 1 2nd)
Ayrton Senna 35 (3 wins, 1 3rd)
Thierry Boutsen 35 (3 wins, 1 2nd)
Jonathan Palmer 34 (3 2nd, 2 3rd)
Satoru Nakajima 27 (2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Eddie Cheever 26 (2 2nd, 3 3rd)
Philippe Streiff 25 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Philippe Alliot 20 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Nigel Mansell 15 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Alain Prost 15 (1 win, 1 4th)
Christian Danner 15 (2 3rd)
Stefan Johansson 14 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Martin Brundle 13 (1 win, 1 4th) - a win for Zakspeed!!!!
Derek Warwick 13 (2 3rd)
Riccardo Patrese 12 (1 2nd)
Andrea De Cesaris 10 (1 win)
Gerhard Berger 9 (1 win)
Piercarlo Ghinzani 9 (1 2nd)
Rene Arnoux 7 (2 4th)
Yannick Dalmas 6 (1 3rd)
Ivan Capelli 5 (1 3rd)
Michele Alboreto 3 (1 4th)
Roberto Moreno 3 (1 4th)
Pascal Fabre 1 (1 6th)
Piquet I believe is the only regular not to score.
Benetton 82
Lotus 62
Tyrrell 59
Arrows 39
McLaren 29
Zakspeed 28
Lola 26
Brabham 22
Ligier 16
Williams 15
Ferrari 12
March 5
AGS 4
Race winners:
Brazil: Boutsen
San Marino: Brundle
Belgium: De Cesaris
Monaco: Berger
Detroit: Mansell
France: Senna
Great Britain: Senna
Germany: Senna
Hungary: Boutsen
Austria: Fabi
Italy: Fabi
Portugal: Fabi
Spain: Alliot
Mexico: Fabi
Japan: Prost
Australia: Boutsen
Well this one was a surprise! I didn't think the Benettons would finish enough races but when they did they were usually among the first lapped. Senna also does remakably well considering! I always expected Tyrrell to do well in this due to good reliability. And there's a win for Philippe Alliot!!!!
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by James1978 » 18 Jul 2011, 05:39
1988
Thierry Boutsen 43 (3 wins, 2 2nd)
Derek Warwick 33 (2 wins, 2 2nd)
Satoru Nakajima 31 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Nelson Piquet 27 (2 wins, 1 2nd)
Eddie Cheever 27 (1 win, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Alex Caffi 24 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Alessandro Nannini 19 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Mauricio Gugelmin 18 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Gerhard Berger 16 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Jonathan Palmer 16 (1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Riccardo Patrese 14 (1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Yannick Dalmas 14 (1 2nd, 1 4th)
Ivan Capelli 13 (2 2nd)
Philippe Streiff 12 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Andrea De Cesaris 12 (1 2nd, 1 4th)
Michele Alboreto 11 (1 win)
Luis Perez-Sala 11 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Philippe Alliot 10 (1 3rd)
Pierluigi Martini 7 (1 3rd)
Ayrton Senna 6 (1 2nd) - it was Monza of all races!!!!
Martin Brundle 6 (1 2nd)
Stefan Johansson 6 (1 4th)
Rene Arnoux 5 (1 4th)
Jean-Louis Schlesser 4 (1 3rd) (ha!)
Gabriele Tarquini 4 (2 5th)
Julian Bailey/Stefano Modena both 3 (1 4th)
Nicola Larini 2 (2 6th)
Benetton 62
Arrows 60
Lotus 58
March 31
Ferrari 27
Dallara 24 (2 wins)
Williams 24 (2 2nd)
Lola 24 (1 2nd)
Tyrrell 19
Minardi 18
AGS 12 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Rial 12 (1 2nd, 1 4th) - unrejectification!
Ligier 11
McLaren 6
Coloni 4
Euro Brun 3
Osella 2
Race winners:
Brazil: Nakajima
San Marino: Piquet
Monaco: Warwick
Mexico: Alboreto
Canada: Piquet
Detroit: Boutsen
France: Berger
Great Britain: Warwick
Germany: Boutsen
Hungary: Gugelmin
Belgium: Cheever
Italy: Nannini
Potrugal: Caffi
Spain: Caffi
Japan: Nakajima
Australia: Boutsen
What was looking a really good fight between the Benettons, Lotuses and Arrows fizzled out in the end as they hardly scored in the last few races - early in the year the McLarens were lapping almost the whole field, but these teams were getting lapped less by the end as they caught up, allowing people like Caffi to win races, and Streiff and Alliot to get podiums. Boutsen was leading going to Australia, he made sure of it by winning there.
BTW 1989 is looking legendary - at half-season a profiled reject leads the points! (I'll post the full thing tomorrow)
Thierry Boutsen 43 (3 wins, 2 2nd)
Derek Warwick 33 (2 wins, 2 2nd)
Satoru Nakajima 31 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Nelson Piquet 27 (2 wins, 1 2nd)
Eddie Cheever 27 (1 win, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Alex Caffi 24 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Alessandro Nannini 19 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Mauricio Gugelmin 18 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Gerhard Berger 16 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Jonathan Palmer 16 (1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Riccardo Patrese 14 (1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Yannick Dalmas 14 (1 2nd, 1 4th)
Ivan Capelli 13 (2 2nd)
Philippe Streiff 12 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Andrea De Cesaris 12 (1 2nd, 1 4th)
Michele Alboreto 11 (1 win)
Luis Perez-Sala 11 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Philippe Alliot 10 (1 3rd)
Pierluigi Martini 7 (1 3rd)
Ayrton Senna 6 (1 2nd) - it was Monza of all races!!!!
Martin Brundle 6 (1 2nd)
Stefan Johansson 6 (1 4th)
Rene Arnoux 5 (1 4th)
Jean-Louis Schlesser 4 (1 3rd) (ha!)
Gabriele Tarquini 4 (2 5th)
Julian Bailey/Stefano Modena both 3 (1 4th)
Nicola Larini 2 (2 6th)
Benetton 62
Arrows 60
Lotus 58
March 31
Ferrari 27
Dallara 24 (2 wins)
Williams 24 (2 2nd)
Lola 24 (1 2nd)
Tyrrell 19
Minardi 18
AGS 12 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Rial 12 (1 2nd, 1 4th) - unrejectification!
Ligier 11
McLaren 6
Coloni 4
Euro Brun 3
Osella 2
Race winners:
Brazil: Nakajima
San Marino: Piquet
Monaco: Warwick
Mexico: Alboreto
Canada: Piquet
Detroit: Boutsen
France: Berger
Great Britain: Warwick
Germany: Boutsen
Hungary: Gugelmin
Belgium: Cheever
Italy: Nannini
Potrugal: Caffi
Spain: Caffi
Japan: Nakajima
Australia: Boutsen
What was looking a really good fight between the Benettons, Lotuses and Arrows fizzled out in the end as they hardly scored in the last few races - early in the year the McLarens were lapping almost the whole field, but these teams were getting lapped less by the end as they caught up, allowing people like Caffi to win races, and Streiff and Alliot to get podiums. Boutsen was leading going to Australia, he made sure of it by winning there.
BTW 1989 is looking legendary - at half-season a profiled reject leads the points! (I'll post the full thing tomorrow)
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by James1978 » 19 Jul 2011, 04:13
1989
A true F1Rejects legend becomes champion!!!!
Pierluigi Martini 33 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Martin Brundle 28 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Jean Alesi 24 (2 wins, 1 2nd)
Emanuele Pirro 23 (2 wins)
Jonathan Palmer 21 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Derek Warwick 21 (1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Mauricio Gugelmin 18 (1 win, 2 3rd)
Olivier Grouillard 18 (1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Stefano Modena 17 (1 win, 2 4th)
Alex Caffi 16 (2 2nd)
Stefan Johansson 15 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Riccardo Patrese 15 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Eddie Cheever 15 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Satoru Nakajima 14 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Gabriele Tarquini 13 (1 win, 1 4th)
Christian Danner 12 (1 win, 1 4th)
Nelson Piquet 12 (1 2nd)
Rene Arnoux 11 (1 win, 1 5th)
Thierry Boutsen 11 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Andrea De Cesaris 11 (2 4th)
Alessandro Nannini 10 (1 win)
Luis Perez-Sala 9 (1 2nd)
Michele Alboreto 7 (1 3rd, 1 4th)
Philippe Alliot 7 (1 3rd, 1 5th)
Johnny Herbert 6 (1 2nd)
Ayrton Senna 6 (1 3rd, 1 5th)
Ivan Capelli 1 (1 6th)
Tyrrell 52
Brabham 45
Minardi 42
Benetton 39
Arrows 36
Ligier 29
Dallara 27
Williams 26 (1 win)
Lotus 26 (2 2nd)
March 19
Onyx 15
AGS 13
Rial 12
Lola 7
McLaren 6
(and a big fat zero for Ferrari!)
Race winners:
Brazil: Palmer
San Marino: Nannini
Monaco: Modena
Mexico: Tarquini (!!!)
USA: Danner (!!!!)
Canada: Arnoux
France: Johansson
Great Britain: Martini (indeed a Minardi 1-2!)
Germany: Patrese
Hungary: Pirro
Belgium: Gugelmin
Italy: Alesi
Portugal: Martini (he got lapped after leading in reality!!)
Spain: Alesi
Japan: Brundle
Australia: Pirro.
Absolutely great season. It was a case of lots of drivers scoring not very often, indeed Martini didn't even score until Silverstone but in the 2nd half of the season his great qualifying form usually kept him ahead of his direct rivals, even though he was still usually lapped by McLaren/Ferrari/Williams in races. Just a shame Minardi couldn't have won the constructors either but Sala wasn't very good in the 2nd car.
The reject who I mentioned who led at mid-season was Grouillard, though he failed to score at all after Silverstone.
And if you're wondering how on earth Senna managed to score, it was Brazil where after his delay he finished 2 laps down, and Canada where he retired in the closing stages but was still classified.
A true F1Rejects legend becomes champion!!!!
Pierluigi Martini 33 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Martin Brundle 28 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Jean Alesi 24 (2 wins, 1 2nd)
Emanuele Pirro 23 (2 wins)
Jonathan Palmer 21 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Derek Warwick 21 (1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Mauricio Gugelmin 18 (1 win, 2 3rd)
Olivier Grouillard 18 (1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Stefano Modena 17 (1 win, 2 4th)
Alex Caffi 16 (2 2nd)
Stefan Johansson 15 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Riccardo Patrese 15 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Eddie Cheever 15 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Satoru Nakajima 14 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Gabriele Tarquini 13 (1 win, 1 4th)
Christian Danner 12 (1 win, 1 4th)
Nelson Piquet 12 (1 2nd)
Rene Arnoux 11 (1 win, 1 5th)
Thierry Boutsen 11 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Andrea De Cesaris 11 (2 4th)
Alessandro Nannini 10 (1 win)
Luis Perez-Sala 9 (1 2nd)
Michele Alboreto 7 (1 3rd, 1 4th)
Philippe Alliot 7 (1 3rd, 1 5th)
Johnny Herbert 6 (1 2nd)
Ayrton Senna 6 (1 3rd, 1 5th)
Ivan Capelli 1 (1 6th)
Tyrrell 52
Brabham 45
Minardi 42
Benetton 39
Arrows 36
Ligier 29
Dallara 27
Williams 26 (1 win)
Lotus 26 (2 2nd)
March 19
Onyx 15
AGS 13
Rial 12
Lola 7
McLaren 6
(and a big fat zero for Ferrari!)
Race winners:
Brazil: Palmer
San Marino: Nannini
Monaco: Modena
Mexico: Tarquini (!!!)
USA: Danner (!!!!)
Canada: Arnoux
France: Johansson
Great Britain: Martini (indeed a Minardi 1-2!)
Germany: Patrese
Hungary: Pirro
Belgium: Gugelmin
Italy: Alesi
Portugal: Martini (he got lapped after leading in reality!!)
Spain: Alesi
Japan: Brundle
Australia: Pirro.
Absolutely great season. It was a case of lots of drivers scoring not very often, indeed Martini didn't even score until Silverstone but in the 2nd half of the season his great qualifying form usually kept him ahead of his direct rivals, even though he was still usually lapped by McLaren/Ferrari/Williams in races. Just a shame Minardi couldn't have won the constructors either but Sala wasn't very good in the 2nd car.
The reject who I mentioned who led at mid-season was Grouillard, though he failed to score at all after Silverstone.
And if you're wondering how on earth Senna managed to score, it was Brazil where after his delay he finished 2 laps down, and Canada where he retired in the closing stages but was still classified.
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by James1978 » 19 Jul 2011, 04:59
1990
Jean Alesi 35 (1 win, 2 2nd, 3 3rd)
Derek Warwick 34 (2 wins, 2 2nd)
Alex Caffi 34 (2 2nd, 4 3rd)
Nicola Larini 33 (2 wins)
Pierluigi Martini 23 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Satoru Nakajima 22 (2 wins)
Riccardo Patrese (2 wins)
Eric Bernard 21 (1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Ivan Capelli 20 (2 wins)
Thierry Boutsen 18 (2 wins)
Aguri Suzuki 18 (2 wins)
Martin Donnelly 15 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Stefano Modena 15 (2 2nd)
Mauricio Gugelmin 13 (2 2nd)
Michele Alboreto 13 (1 3rd)
Nelson Piquet 12 (2 2nd)
Philippe Alliot 11 (1 3rd)
Roberto Moreno 6 (1 2nd) - this was for Benetton in Australia, not EuroBrun sadly!
Alessandro Nannini 6 (1 3rd)
Andrea De Cesaris 5 (1 4th)
Yannick Dalmas 4 (1 3rd)
Gregor Foitek 4 (1 4th)
Emanuele Pirro 4 (1 4th)
Paolo Barilla 3 (1 5th)
JJ Lehto 1 (1 6th)
Tyrrell 57
Lotus 49
Arrows 47
Ligier 44
Williams 39 (4 wins)
Lola 39 (2 wins)
Leyton House 33
Minardi 26
Benetton 24
Brabham 15
Dallara 9
Onyx 5
AGS 4
Race winners:
USA: Nakajima
Brazil: Boutsen
San Marino: Alesi
Monaco: Boutsen
Canada: Warwick
Mexico: Warwick
France: Suzuki
Great Britain: Suzuki
Germany: Capelli
Hungary: Donnelly
Belgium: Capelli
Italy: Nakajima
Portugal: Patrese
Spain: Larini
Japan: Larini
Australia: Patrese
Alesi was almost always near the front of the lapped cars, I think he scored on every occasion he finished, with the exception of his real-life 2nds in Phoenix and Monaco. After Germany Warwick looked to have it sewn up, but a good perfomance in Hungary saw him fail to get lapped (Boutsen winning quite slowly surely contributed) then he finished the season with 5 straight DNFs. Also excellent performances from Caffi and Larini. McLaren and Ferrari fail to score completely, though Williams and Benetton do on their off days. The number of drivers who win twice is quite amazing!
Jean Alesi 35 (1 win, 2 2nd, 3 3rd)
Derek Warwick 34 (2 wins, 2 2nd)
Alex Caffi 34 (2 2nd, 4 3rd)
Nicola Larini 33 (2 wins)
Pierluigi Martini 23 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Satoru Nakajima 22 (2 wins)
Riccardo Patrese (2 wins)
Eric Bernard 21 (1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Ivan Capelli 20 (2 wins)
Thierry Boutsen 18 (2 wins)
Aguri Suzuki 18 (2 wins)
Martin Donnelly 15 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Stefano Modena 15 (2 2nd)
Mauricio Gugelmin 13 (2 2nd)
Michele Alboreto 13 (1 3rd)
Nelson Piquet 12 (2 2nd)
Philippe Alliot 11 (1 3rd)
Roberto Moreno 6 (1 2nd) - this was for Benetton in Australia, not EuroBrun sadly!
Alessandro Nannini 6 (1 3rd)
Andrea De Cesaris 5 (1 4th)
Yannick Dalmas 4 (1 3rd)
Gregor Foitek 4 (1 4th)
Emanuele Pirro 4 (1 4th)
Paolo Barilla 3 (1 5th)
JJ Lehto 1 (1 6th)
Tyrrell 57
Lotus 49
Arrows 47
Ligier 44
Williams 39 (4 wins)
Lola 39 (2 wins)
Leyton House 33
Minardi 26
Benetton 24
Brabham 15
Dallara 9
Onyx 5
AGS 4
Race winners:
USA: Nakajima
Brazil: Boutsen
San Marino: Alesi
Monaco: Boutsen
Canada: Warwick
Mexico: Warwick
France: Suzuki
Great Britain: Suzuki
Germany: Capelli
Hungary: Donnelly
Belgium: Capelli
Italy: Nakajima
Portugal: Patrese
Spain: Larini
Japan: Larini
Australia: Patrese
Alesi was almost always near the front of the lapped cars, I think he scored on every occasion he finished, with the exception of his real-life 2nds in Phoenix and Monaco. After Germany Warwick looked to have it sewn up, but a good perfomance in Hungary saw him fail to get lapped (Boutsen winning quite slowly surely contributed) then he finished the season with 5 straight DNFs. Also excellent performances from Caffi and Larini. McLaren and Ferrari fail to score completely, though Williams and Benetton do on their off days. The number of drivers who win twice is quite amazing!
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by James1978 » 19 Jul 2011, 22:44
I'm probably being paranoid but are people still interested in this? I thought there would have been much bigger reaction to Martini being champion!
(Also I've worked out 1991 though can't post it yet, and another total legend of this site wins that as well!!!)
(Also I've worked out 1991 though can't post it yet, and another total legend of this site wins that as well!!!)
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by Ferrim » 20 Jul 2011, 02:35
It's not a great time of the year for writing in forums, people are going out and so on. Don't worry about that
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by This » 20 Jul 2011, 04:03
James1978 wrote:I'm probably being paranoid
Well yes, you probably are, but i'm reading this stuff, don't worry
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by James1978 » 20 Jul 2011, 04:23
1991
Roberto Moreno 41 (2 wins, 2 2nd, 2 3rd*)
Mauricio Gugelmin 34 (3 wins*, 1 3rd)
Andrea De Cesaris 29 (1 win, 3 2nd)
Emanuele Pirro 28 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Martin Brundle 25 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Gianni Morbidelli 23 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd, 1 4th)
Ayrton Senna 20 (2 wins) (!!!!)
Pierluigi Martini 19 (2 2nd)
Thierry Boutsen 19 (1 3rd, 3 4th)
JJ Lehto 16 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Nelson Piquet 15 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Satoru Nakajima 14 (1 win)
Erik Comas 13 (2 3rd)
Mika Hakkinen 10.5 (2 3rd)
Nigel Mansell/Riccardo Patrese/Ivan Capelli all 10 (1 win)
Bertrand Gachot 10 (1 3rd)
Stefano Modena 9 (1 2nd)
Mark Blundell 6.5 (2 4th*)
Aguri Suzuki 6 (1 2nd)
Alain Prost 6 (1 2nd)
Eric Bernard 5 (1 3rd)
Alex Caffi 4 (1 2nd*)
Nicola Larini/Olivier Grouillard/Alessandro Zanardi all 4 (1 3rd)
Gabriele Tarquini 4 (1 4th)
Julian Bailey 3 (1 4th)
Johnny Herbert 1 (1 6th)
*Half points for Australia
Benetton 51
Jordan 46
Leyton House 44 (4 wins)
Dallara 44 (2 wins)
Minardi 44 (1 win)
Ligier 32
Brabham 31.5
Tyrrell 23
Williams & McLaren both 20 (both had 2 wins and nowt else)
Lotus 14.5
Lola 11
Ferrari 6
Fondmetal 5
Footwork 4 (1 2nd*)
Lamborghini 4 (1 3rd)
AGS 3
Race winners:
USA: Nakajima
Brazil: Moreno
San Marino: Lehto
Monaco: Moreno
Canada: Mansell (oops)
Mexico: De Cesaris
France: Patrese
Great Britain: Senna (oops again)
Germany: Senna (and again)
Hungary: Capelli
Belgium: Pirro
Italy: Morbidelli
Portugal: Gugelmin
Spain: Gugelmin
Japan: Brundle
Australia: Gugelmin
Moreno led this most of the way - he'd got 36 points at the time Benetton fired him (and his replacement got none at all BTW!!) , that still would have been enough to be champion but he added a 4th for Jordan in Portugal and a half-points 3rd for Minardi in Australia. Gugelmin only had 6 points with 4 races left but won 3 of the last 4 races. De Cesaris was robbed of a win by Mansell stopping on the last lap in Canada which would have had him only 2 points behind Moreno (I believe he'd beeen lapped by Mansell but not by Piquet). Senna's 2 wins were due to running out of fuel both times!
And of the top 3 teams, only Berger and Alesi kept clean sheets unlike their highly-rated champion rivals (and Patrese)!
Roberto Moreno 41 (2 wins, 2 2nd, 2 3rd*)
Mauricio Gugelmin 34 (3 wins*, 1 3rd)
Andrea De Cesaris 29 (1 win, 3 2nd)
Emanuele Pirro 28 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Martin Brundle 25 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Gianni Morbidelli 23 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd, 1 4th)
Ayrton Senna 20 (2 wins) (!!!!)
Pierluigi Martini 19 (2 2nd)
Thierry Boutsen 19 (1 3rd, 3 4th)
JJ Lehto 16 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Nelson Piquet 15 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Satoru Nakajima 14 (1 win)
Erik Comas 13 (2 3rd)
Mika Hakkinen 10.5 (2 3rd)
Nigel Mansell/Riccardo Patrese/Ivan Capelli all 10 (1 win)
Bertrand Gachot 10 (1 3rd)
Stefano Modena 9 (1 2nd)
Mark Blundell 6.5 (2 4th*)
Aguri Suzuki 6 (1 2nd)
Alain Prost 6 (1 2nd)
Eric Bernard 5 (1 3rd)
Alex Caffi 4 (1 2nd*)
Nicola Larini/Olivier Grouillard/Alessandro Zanardi all 4 (1 3rd)
Gabriele Tarquini 4 (1 4th)
Julian Bailey 3 (1 4th)
Johnny Herbert 1 (1 6th)
*Half points for Australia
Benetton 51
Jordan 46
Leyton House 44 (4 wins)
Dallara 44 (2 wins)
Minardi 44 (1 win)
Ligier 32
Brabham 31.5
Tyrrell 23
Williams & McLaren both 20 (both had 2 wins and nowt else)
Lotus 14.5
Lola 11
Ferrari 6
Fondmetal 5
Footwork 4 (1 2nd*)
Lamborghini 4 (1 3rd)
AGS 3
Race winners:
USA: Nakajima
Brazil: Moreno
San Marino: Lehto
Monaco: Moreno
Canada: Mansell (oops)
Mexico: De Cesaris
France: Patrese
Great Britain: Senna (oops again)
Germany: Senna (and again)
Hungary: Capelli
Belgium: Pirro
Italy: Morbidelli
Portugal: Gugelmin
Spain: Gugelmin
Japan: Brundle
Australia: Gugelmin
Moreno led this most of the way - he'd got 36 points at the time Benetton fired him (and his replacement got none at all BTW!!) , that still would have been enough to be champion but he added a 4th for Jordan in Portugal and a half-points 3rd for Minardi in Australia. Gugelmin only had 6 points with 4 races left but won 3 of the last 4 races. De Cesaris was robbed of a win by Mansell stopping on the last lap in Canada which would have had him only 2 points behind Moreno (I believe he'd beeen lapped by Mansell but not by Piquet). Senna's 2 wins were due to running out of fuel both times!
And of the top 3 teams, only Berger and Alesi kept clean sheets unlike their highly-rated champion rivals (and Patrese)!
Last edited by James1978 on 20 Jul 2011, 08:36, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by dr-baker » 20 Jul 2011, 05:35
James1978 wrote:I'm probably being paranoid but are people still interested in this? I thought there would have been much bigger reaction to Martini being champion!
(Also I've worked out 1991 though can't post it yet, and another total legend of this site wins that as well!!!)
Don't worry, I'm paranoid about nobody posting in my alternative championship either - the car numbers one. But I enjoy doing it so I don't care really (unless someone were to take it down...).
As hardcore as a peach...
West Cliff Results 2015
F1RM WEC: 1st (drivers)/2nd (teams)
F3RWRS: 3rd (drivers)/3rd (teams)
Whoop whoop.
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by Bleu » 20 Jul 2011, 06:07
I wonder if Alboreto gets huge amount of points in 1992.
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by James1978 » 20 Jul 2011, 08:36
1991 now edited with notes added.
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by James1978 » 21 Jul 2011, 08:35
Bleu wrote:I wonder if Alboreto gets huge amount of points in 1992.
Well he gets the highest total yet but isn't quite as dominant as I thought he'd be!!
1992
Michele Alboreto 68 (3 wins, 4 2nd)
Andrea De Cesaris 50 (4 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Erik Comas 28 (3 2nd, 1 3rd)
Mika Hakkinen 26 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Jean Alesi 22 (1 win, 2 2nd)
Pierluigi Martini 21 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Aguri Suzuki 21 (1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Ivan Capelli 19 (1 win, 2 3rd)
Johnny Herbert 19 (1 win, 2 3rd)
Karl Wendlinger 18 (1 win, 2 4th)
JJ Lehto 15 (1 3rd, 2 4th)
Michael Schumacher/Ayrton Senna 12 (both 1 win, 1 5th)
Thierry Boutsen 11 (1 2nd)
Bertrand Gachot/Riccardo Patrese both 10 (1 win)
Christian Fittipaldi 9 (2 3rd)
Stefano Modena 7 (1 3rd, 1 4th)
Mauricio Gugelmin 7 (1 3rd, 1 5th, 1 6th)
Martin Brundle 6 (1 2nd)
Gianni Morbidelli 6 (3 5th)
Olivier Grouillard 5 (1 4th)
Eric Van De Poele 4 (1 3rd) (!!)
Paul Belmondo 4 (1 4th)
Ukyo Katayama 3 (1 4th)
Emanuele Naspetti 2 (1 5th)
Damon Hill 1 (1 6th)
Footwork 89
Tyrrell 55
Lotus 45
Ferrari 41
Ligier 39
Dallara 36
March 24
Benetton 18
Minardi 15
Jordan 14
Larrousse 13
McLaren 12
Williams 10
Fondmetal 4
Brabham 1
Race winners:
South Africa: Herbert
Mexico: De Cesaris
Brazil: Schumacher
Spain: Alboreto
San Marino: Alboreto
Monaco: Gachot
Canada: Wendlinger
France: Hakkinen
Great Britain: Alboreto
Germany: Patrese (as he spun out on the last lap)
Hungary: Capelli
Belgium: De Cesaris
Italy: De Cesaris
Portugal: Senna
Japan: De Cesaris
Australia: Alesi
Well Alboreto scored on 12 occasions, but I feel sorry for De Cesaris as 50 points would win this in most other years. Comas looked to also be in with a shout but didn't score at all after Silverstone. Williams were so dominant in some races that there were some very illustrious winners (Schumacher and Senna) who won without any disastrous delays. Van De Poele unrejectifies himself in his 2nd last race, Belgium, and Hill scores in Brabham's last race, Hungary.
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by James1978 » 25 Jul 2011, 00:54
After a few days' break it's
1993
Martin Brundle 54 (2 wins, 3 2nd, 4 3rd)
Michael Andretti 31 (2 wins, 1 2nd)
Mark Blundell 31 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Karl Wendlinger 30 (1 win, 2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Riccardo Patrese 28 (1 win, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
JJ Lehto 28 (2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Christian Fittipaldi 27 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Gerhard Berger 24 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Johnny Herbert 23 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Derek Warwick 21 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Alain Prost 20 (2 wins)
Philippe Alliot 18 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Jean Alesi 16 (1 win)
Alessandro Zanardi 14 (1 win)
Ayrton Senna 10 (1 win)
Rubens Barrichello 8 (1 2nd)
Pierluigi Martini 8 (2 4th)
Erik Comas 8 (1 4th)
Fabrizio Barbazza 6 (2 4th)
Aguri Suzuki 3 (1 4th)
Thierry Boutsen 3 (3 6th)
Luca Badoer 2 (1 5th) (still a reject as yet)
Michele Alboreto 1 (1 6th)
Toshio Suzuki 1 (1 6th) - god I don't even remember him!!!
Ligier 85
Sauber 58
McLaren 41 (3 wins)
Minardi 41 (no wins)
Ferrari 40
Lotus 37
Benetton 28
Larrousse 27
Footwork 24
Williams 20
Jordan 11
Lola 3
Tyrrell 0 (they were so bad they couldn't even manage a top 6 placing of lapped cars!)
Race winners:
South Africa: Blundell
Brazil: Zanardi (yay!)
Europe: Prost (oops)
San Marino: Brundle
Spain: Patrese
Monaco: Prost (oops again!)
Canada: Berger
France: Andretti
Great Britain: Senna (2nd time in 3 years he won by running out of fuel)
Germany: Brundle
Hungary: Warwick
Belgium: Herbert
Italy: Andretti
Portugal: Wendlinger
Japan: Blundell
Australia: Alesi
A great year for the "Brundell" Brothers at Ligier - only Andretti getting 2nd on countback stopped them getting a clean sweep. Hill and Schumacher managed to keep clean sheets as did the Tyrrell drivers, but for completely different reasons.
1993
Martin Brundle 54 (2 wins, 3 2nd, 4 3rd)
Michael Andretti 31 (2 wins, 1 2nd)
Mark Blundell 31 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Karl Wendlinger 30 (1 win, 2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Riccardo Patrese 28 (1 win, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
JJ Lehto 28 (2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Christian Fittipaldi 27 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Gerhard Berger 24 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Johnny Herbert 23 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Derek Warwick 21 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Alain Prost 20 (2 wins)
Philippe Alliot 18 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Jean Alesi 16 (1 win)
Alessandro Zanardi 14 (1 win)
Ayrton Senna 10 (1 win)
Rubens Barrichello 8 (1 2nd)
Pierluigi Martini 8 (2 4th)
Erik Comas 8 (1 4th)
Fabrizio Barbazza 6 (2 4th)
Aguri Suzuki 3 (1 4th)
Thierry Boutsen 3 (3 6th)
Luca Badoer 2 (1 5th) (still a reject as yet)
Michele Alboreto 1 (1 6th)
Toshio Suzuki 1 (1 6th) - god I don't even remember him!!!
Ligier 85
Sauber 58
McLaren 41 (3 wins)
Minardi 41 (no wins)
Ferrari 40
Lotus 37
Benetton 28
Larrousse 27
Footwork 24
Williams 20
Jordan 11
Lola 3
Tyrrell 0 (they were so bad they couldn't even manage a top 6 placing of lapped cars!)
Race winners:
South Africa: Blundell
Brazil: Zanardi (yay!)
Europe: Prost (oops)
San Marino: Brundle
Spain: Patrese
Monaco: Prost (oops again!)
Canada: Berger
France: Andretti
Great Britain: Senna (2nd time in 3 years he won by running out of fuel)
Germany: Brundle
Hungary: Warwick
Belgium: Herbert
Italy: Andretti
Portugal: Wendlinger
Japan: Blundell
Australia: Alesi
A great year for the "Brundell" Brothers at Ligier - only Andretti getting 2nd on countback stopped them getting a clean sweep. Hill and Schumacher managed to keep clean sheets as did the Tyrrell drivers, but for completely different reasons.
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by Bleu » 25 Jul 2011, 02:31
James1978 wrote:Great Britain: Senna (2nd time in 3 years he won by running out of fuel)
Don't forget that his car stopped in the same place both years as it did in 1992 (that year he retired late in the race but not late enough to be classified)
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by James1978 » 25 Jul 2011, 07:11
1994
Heinz-Harald Frentzen 32 (1 win, 1 2nd, 4 3rd)
David Coulthard 30 (3 wins)
Jean Alesi 29 (1 win, 3 2nd)
Christian Fittipaldi 29 (1 win, 2 2nd)
Olivier Panis 29 (1 win, 2 3rd)
Ukyo Katayama 23 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd, 1 4th)
Damon Hill 22 (1 win, 2 2nd)
Pierluigi Martini 21 (2 2nd)
Mark Blundell 19 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Rubens Barrichello 18 (1 win, 2 3rd)
Erik Comas 15 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Johnny Herbert 15 (3 4th)
Eddie Irvine 14 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Andrea De Cesaris 14 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Martin Brundle 13 (1 win, 1 4th)
Olivier Beretta 13 (1 win, 1 5th, 1 6th)
JJ Lehto 13 (1 2nd)
Eric Bernard 12 (1 2nd)
Gerhard Berger 10 (1 win)
Gianni Morbidelli 10 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Michele Alboreto 9 (1 3rd)
Jean-Marc Gounon 5 (1 3rd) (a podium for Simtek!!)
Mika Salo 4 (1 3rd)
Jos Verstappen 3 (1 4th)
David Brabham 3 (1 5th)
Karl Wendlinger 2 (1 5th)
Alessandro Zanardi 2 (2 6th)
Pedro Lamy 1 (1 6th)
Williams 52
Ligier 44
Jordan 42 (3 wins)
Tyrrell 42 (2 wins)
Ferrari 39 (2 wins)
Footwork 39 (1 win, 3 2nd)
Sauber 39 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Minardi 30
Larrousse 28
Lotus 19
Benetton 15
McLaren 13
Simtek 8 (that's enough to unrejectify them isn't it?)
Race winners:
Brazil: Hill (wow, Schumacher lapped Hill on merit!)
Pacific: Barrichello
San Marino: Katayama (shame it had to be THAT race he won )
Monaco: De Cesaris
Spain: Alesi
Canada: Coulthard
France: Frentzen
Great Britain: Coulthard
Germany: Beretta (yay, a win for a reject!)
Hungary: Brundle
Belgium: Blundell
Italy: Coulthard
Portugal: Irvine
Europe: Berger
Japan: Fittipaldi
Australia: Panis
Poor Coulthard - he led due to his three wins and not many drivers consistently scoring, but he wasn't around for the last 3 races to defend his lead! Frentzen won after his 3rd place in Oz, but Alesi would have won if he had beaten Panis - he finished only just behind. It was another year of lots of drivers scoring not very often. Schumacher and Hakkinen kept clean sheets (as did a few other non-regulars such as Larini and Mansell), while at the other end of the scale so did Pacific!
I certainly didn't expect the real winners of the Constructors Championship to also win this one!
Heinz-Harald Frentzen 32 (1 win, 1 2nd, 4 3rd)
David Coulthard 30 (3 wins)
Jean Alesi 29 (1 win, 3 2nd)
Christian Fittipaldi 29 (1 win, 2 2nd)
Olivier Panis 29 (1 win, 2 3rd)
Ukyo Katayama 23 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd, 1 4th)
Damon Hill 22 (1 win, 2 2nd)
Pierluigi Martini 21 (2 2nd)
Mark Blundell 19 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Rubens Barrichello 18 (1 win, 2 3rd)
Erik Comas 15 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Johnny Herbert 15 (3 4th)
Eddie Irvine 14 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Andrea De Cesaris 14 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Martin Brundle 13 (1 win, 1 4th)
Olivier Beretta 13 (1 win, 1 5th, 1 6th)
JJ Lehto 13 (1 2nd)
Eric Bernard 12 (1 2nd)
Gerhard Berger 10 (1 win)
Gianni Morbidelli 10 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Michele Alboreto 9 (1 3rd)
Jean-Marc Gounon 5 (1 3rd) (a podium for Simtek!!)
Mika Salo 4 (1 3rd)
Jos Verstappen 3 (1 4th)
David Brabham 3 (1 5th)
Karl Wendlinger 2 (1 5th)
Alessandro Zanardi 2 (2 6th)
Pedro Lamy 1 (1 6th)
Williams 52
Ligier 44
Jordan 42 (3 wins)
Tyrrell 42 (2 wins)
Ferrari 39 (2 wins)
Footwork 39 (1 win, 3 2nd)
Sauber 39 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Minardi 30
Larrousse 28
Lotus 19
Benetton 15
McLaren 13
Simtek 8 (that's enough to unrejectify them isn't it?)
Race winners:
Brazil: Hill (wow, Schumacher lapped Hill on merit!)
Pacific: Barrichello
San Marino: Katayama (shame it had to be THAT race he won
)Monaco: De Cesaris
Spain: Alesi
Canada: Coulthard
France: Frentzen
Great Britain: Coulthard
Germany: Beretta (yay, a win for a reject!)
Hungary: Brundle
Belgium: Blundell
Italy: Coulthard
Portugal: Irvine
Europe: Berger
Japan: Fittipaldi
Australia: Panis
Poor Coulthard - he led due to his three wins and not many drivers consistently scoring, but he wasn't around for the last 3 races to defend his lead! Frentzen won after his 3rd place in Oz, but Alesi would have won if he had beaten Panis - he finished only just behind. It was another year of lots of drivers scoring not very often. Schumacher and Hakkinen kept clean sheets (as did a few other non-regulars such as Larini and Mansell), while at the other end of the scale so did Pacific!
I certainly didn't expect the real winners of the Constructors Championship to also win this one!
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by Ferrim » 25 Jul 2011, 07:38
Bleu wrote:James1978 wrote:Great Britain: Senna (2nd time in 3 years he won by running out of fuel)
Don't forget that his car stopped in the same place both years as it did in 1992 (that year he retired late in the race but not late enough to be classified)
It feels surprising that such a thing could happen for several years in a row... From what I read, back then the car's electronic system weren't as reliable and mistakes would happen -the computer would say there was enough fuel to finish on current pace, while it wasn't, and the other way round. I remember reading that, during the 1986 finale at Adelaide, Prost's onboard told him that he would run out of fuel before the end of the race. Prost, who was in the lead and only could become champion if he won, simply ignored it (he couldn't slow down, because Piquet was a few seconds down the road), and he finished without problems.
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by James1978 » 25 Jul 2011, 07:42
BTW, forgot to add for 1994 that Hockenheim had one of the funniest podiums ever - Beretta, Hill and Gounon (he didn't finish but was classified due to only being 5 laps behind Beretta!).
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by James1978 » 26 Jul 2011, 06:37
1995
Heinz-Harald Frentzen 51 (2 wins, 2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Johnny Herbert 46 (2 wins, 3 2nd, 2 3rd)
Olivier Panis 40 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Gerhard Berger 35 (3 wins, 1 3rd)
Mika Salo 32 (1 win, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Jean-Christophe Boullion 31 (2 wins, 1 2nd)
Rubens Barrichello 28 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Mika Hakkinen 24 (1 win, 2 2nd)
Eddie Irvine 24 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Mark Blundell 22 (1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Gianni Morbidelli 17 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Taki Inoue 12 (1 2nd)
Martin Brundle 11 (1 3rd)
Jean Alesi 10 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Pierluigi Martini 9 (1 2nd)
Luca Badoer 9 (1 3rd) - A PODIUM!!!
Aguri Suzuki 7 (1 2nd)
Ukyo Katayama 7 (1 3rd)
Pedro Diniz 7 (1 3rd) - A PODIUM FOR FORTI!!!
Max Papis 4 (1 3rd)
Andrea Montermini 3 (1 4th)
Roberto Moreno 3 (1 4th)
Pedro Lamy 3 (1 3rd)
Domenico Schiattarella/Nigel Mansell/Karl Wendlinger all 1 (1 6th)
Sauber 83
Ligier 58
Jordan 52
McLaren 47
Benetton 46
Ferrari 45
Tyrrell 39
Footwork 33
Minardi 21
Forti 10
Pacific 3
Simtek 1
Williams 0
Race winners:
Brazil: Berger (who needs disqualifications due to illegal fuel?)
Argentina: Herbert
San Marino: Hakkinen
Spain: Irvine
Monaco: Herbert
Canada: Morbidelli
France: Barrichello
Great Britain: Frentzen
Germany: Boullion
Hungary: Berger
Belgium: Boullion
Italy: Salo
Portugal: Frentzen
Europe: Barrichello
Pacific: Berger
Japan: Panis
Australia: Panis
Another back-to-back winner in Frentzen, much more convincing than 1994 - this time is seemed to be far less drivers scoring more regularly. The number of times Herbert got lapped given who he drove for was staggering - especially as his teammate and both Williamses didn't score at all. The races with more "unusual" lapped winners seemed to be the ones where there was an unusual real winner, ie Italy, Canada, and the long laps at Hockenheim and Spa.
Thanks to a big double points score at Spa, Forti win the battle of the three tail-end teams, indeed Forti, Pacific and Simtek remind me of the current HRT, Lotus and Virgin (only I'm not sure in what order!)
Heinz-Harald Frentzen 51 (2 wins, 2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Johnny Herbert 46 (2 wins, 3 2nd, 2 3rd)
Olivier Panis 40 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Gerhard Berger 35 (3 wins, 1 3rd)
Mika Salo 32 (1 win, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Jean-Christophe Boullion 31 (2 wins, 1 2nd)
Rubens Barrichello 28 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Mika Hakkinen 24 (1 win, 2 2nd)
Eddie Irvine 24 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Mark Blundell 22 (1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Gianni Morbidelli 17 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Taki Inoue 12 (1 2nd)
Martin Brundle 11 (1 3rd)
Jean Alesi 10 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Pierluigi Martini 9 (1 2nd)
Luca Badoer 9 (1 3rd) - A PODIUM!!!
Aguri Suzuki 7 (1 2nd)
Ukyo Katayama 7 (1 3rd)
Pedro Diniz 7 (1 3rd) - A PODIUM FOR FORTI!!!
Max Papis 4 (1 3rd)
Andrea Montermini 3 (1 4th)
Roberto Moreno 3 (1 4th)
Pedro Lamy 3 (1 3rd)
Domenico Schiattarella/Nigel Mansell/Karl Wendlinger all 1 (1 6th)
Sauber 83
Ligier 58
Jordan 52
McLaren 47
Benetton 46
Ferrari 45
Tyrrell 39
Footwork 33
Minardi 21
Forti 10
Pacific 3
Simtek 1
Williams 0
Race winners:
Brazil: Berger (who needs disqualifications due to illegal fuel?)
Argentina: Herbert
San Marino: Hakkinen
Spain: Irvine
Monaco: Herbert
Canada: Morbidelli
France: Barrichello
Great Britain: Frentzen
Germany: Boullion
Hungary: Berger
Belgium: Boullion
Italy: Salo
Portugal: Frentzen
Europe: Barrichello
Pacific: Berger
Japan: Panis
Australia: Panis
Another back-to-back winner in Frentzen, much more convincing than 1994 - this time is seemed to be far less drivers scoring more regularly. The number of times Herbert got lapped given who he drove for was staggering - especially as his teammate and both Williamses didn't score at all. The races with more "unusual" lapped winners seemed to be the ones where there was an unusual real winner, ie Italy, Canada, and the long laps at Hockenheim and Spa.
Thanks to a big double points score at Spa, Forti win the battle of the three tail-end teams, indeed Forti, Pacific and Simtek remind me of the current HRT, Lotus and Virgin (only I'm not sure in what order!)
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by James1978 » 26 Jul 2011, 07:45
And it's three in a row!!
1996
Heinz-Harald Frentzen 50 (4 wins, 2 3rd)
Mika Hakkinen 40 (2 wins, 2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Mika Salo 36 (1 win, 3 2nd, 1 3rd)
Pedro Diniz 33 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Ricardo Rosset 29 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Martin Brundle 28 (1 win, 1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Johnny Herbert 26 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Olivier Panis 24 (3 2nd)
Pedro Lamy 21 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Jos Verstappen 16 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Michael Schumacher 11 (1 win)
Jean Alesi/David Coulthard both 10 (1 win)
Jacques Villeneuve 9 (1 2nd)
Rubens Barrichello 7 (1 3rd)
Giancarlo Fisichella 7 (2 4th)
Ukyo Katayama 7 (1 4th)
Andrea Montermini 6 (1 2nd)
Eddie Irvine 5 (1 4th)
Luca Badoer 2 (1 5th)
Gerhard Berger 1 (1 6th)
Only Damon Hill of the regulars failed to score.
Sauber 76
Ligier 57
McLaren 50
Footwork 45 (I thought they were called Arrows again by 1996)
Tyrrell 43
Jordan 35
Minardi 28
Ferrari 16
Benetton 11
Williams 9
Forti 8
Race winners:
Austrlia: Salo
Brazil: Schumacher (that's Hill's revenge for 1994!)
Argentina: Herbert
Europe: Diniz
San Marino: Alesi
Monaco: Frentzen
Spain: Frentzen
Canada: Hakkinen
France: Coulthard
Great Britain: Brundle
Germany: Frentzen
Hungary: Hakkinen
Belgium: Rosset (LOL)
Italy: Diniz
Portugal: Frentzen
Japan: Verstappen
This was an ODD season - the race winners went from the sublime to the ridiculous, mainly depending on how dominant Williams were (and safety cars). Frentzen was needless to say the most consistent again, some perceived front runners scored better than expected (Hakkinen) and some midfielders I would expect to do well didn't (Barrichello the most obvious example).
In Monaco nobody was running and lapped at the end so I just took who completed most laps there. Lots of races did not have 6 classified lapped runners, indeed in Argntina and Spa, due to safety cars, only 2 cars finished (hence Montermini getting a 2nd, and Rosset/Lamy/nobody was the podium at Spa - reject heaven!)
I gotta nasty feeling though, increased use of safety cars from now on may result in this championship looking rather silly, we shall see (particularly in the seasons where drivers could unlap themselves under SC conditions).
1996
Heinz-Harald Frentzen 50 (4 wins, 2 3rd)
Mika Hakkinen 40 (2 wins, 2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Mika Salo 36 (1 win, 3 2nd, 1 3rd)
Pedro Diniz 33 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Ricardo Rosset 29 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Martin Brundle 28 (1 win, 1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Johnny Herbert 26 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Olivier Panis 24 (3 2nd)
Pedro Lamy 21 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Jos Verstappen 16 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Michael Schumacher 11 (1 win)
Jean Alesi/David Coulthard both 10 (1 win)
Jacques Villeneuve 9 (1 2nd)
Rubens Barrichello 7 (1 3rd)
Giancarlo Fisichella 7 (2 4th)
Ukyo Katayama 7 (1 4th)
Andrea Montermini 6 (1 2nd)
Eddie Irvine 5 (1 4th)
Luca Badoer 2 (1 5th)
Gerhard Berger 1 (1 6th)
Only Damon Hill of the regulars failed to score.
Sauber 76
Ligier 57
McLaren 50
Footwork 45 (I thought they were called Arrows again by 1996)
Tyrrell 43
Jordan 35
Minardi 28
Ferrari 16
Benetton 11
Williams 9
Forti 8
Race winners:
Austrlia: Salo
Brazil: Schumacher (that's Hill's revenge for 1994!)
Argentina: Herbert
Europe: Diniz
San Marino: Alesi
Monaco: Frentzen
Spain: Frentzen
Canada: Hakkinen
France: Coulthard
Great Britain: Brundle
Germany: Frentzen
Hungary: Hakkinen
Belgium: Rosset (LOL)
Italy: Diniz
Portugal: Frentzen
Japan: Verstappen
This was an ODD season - the race winners went from the sublime to the ridiculous, mainly depending on how dominant Williams were (and safety cars). Frentzen was needless to say the most consistent again, some perceived front runners scored better than expected (Hakkinen) and some midfielders I would expect to do well didn't (Barrichello the most obvious example).
In Monaco nobody was running and lapped at the end so I just took who completed most laps there. Lots of races did not have 6 classified lapped runners, indeed in Argntina and Spa, due to safety cars, only 2 cars finished (hence Montermini getting a 2nd, and Rosset/Lamy/nobody was the podium at Spa - reject heaven!)
I gotta nasty feeling though, increased use of safety cars from now on may result in this championship looking rather silly, we shall see (particularly in the seasons where drivers could unlap themselves under SC conditions).
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by James1978 » 27 Jul 2011, 09:14
1997
Mika Salo 46 (2 wins, 3 2nd)
Giancarlo Fisichella 33 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
David Coulthard 30 (3 wins)
Damon Hill 29 (1 win, 2 2nd)
Gianni Morbidelli 27 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Jos Verstappen 27 (1 win, 2 3rd)
Eddie Irvine 26 (2 wins, 1 2nd)
Jarno Trulli 26 (2 2nd, 2 3rd) - 16 points and 3 of the podiums were for Minardi
Pedro Diniz 20 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Jean Alesi 18 (1 win, 2 3rd)
Ukyo Katayama 17 (2 2nd)
Jan Magnussen 16 (4 3rd)
Shinji Nakano 14 (1 win, 2 5th)
Tarso Marques 14 (1 3rd, 2 4th)
Nicola Larini/Norberto Fontana both 13 (1 2nd, 1 3rd, 1 4th) - impossible to separate
Gerhard Berger 12 (1 win)
Rubens Barrichello 8 (1 2nd)
Mika Hakkinen 7 (1 2nd)
Johnny Herbert 6 (1 2nd)
Heinz-Harald Frentzen 6 (1 2nd) - what a way to come down from three staright championships!
Olivier Panis 6 (2 4th)
Villeneuve and both Schumachers keep a clean sheet (quite a surprise for Ralf me thinks!)
Tyrrell 73
Sauber 59
Arrows 49
Minardi 47
McLaren 37
Jordan 33
Benetton 30 (2 wins)
Prost 30 (1 win)
Ferrari 26
Stewart 24
Williams 6
Race winners:
Australia: Nakano (on debut - that'll please someone!)
Brazil: Coulthard
Argentina: Salo
San Marino: Alesi
Monaco: Salo (now we now why he never stopped!)
Spain: Verstappen
Canada: Diniz
France: Coulthard
Great Britain: Fisichella
Germany: Hill
Hungary: Irvine
Belgium: Irvine
Italy: Morbidelli
Austria: Berger (how ironic he wins his home race!)
Luxembourg: Morbidelli
Japan: Coulthard
Europe: Fisichella
Given the field was overall close that year, a slow and reliable car was what was needed to win this and the Tyrrell did the trick. It's alarming now well Hill does at this and I really expected Nakano to do really at this - he was often the last unlapped runner. Also quite a few races had the oly scorers being stragglers who had problems but still classified. Drivers like Coulthard and Irvine's scores were when they were punted off on the last lap in France and Hungary for instance! But I always enjoy seeing alternative winners like Diniz, Morbidelli and Verstappen, indeed Nurburgring only Morbidelli and Salo were lapped and finished.
Mika Salo 46 (2 wins, 3 2nd)
Giancarlo Fisichella 33 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
David Coulthard 30 (3 wins)
Damon Hill 29 (1 win, 2 2nd)
Gianni Morbidelli 27 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Jos Verstappen 27 (1 win, 2 3rd)
Eddie Irvine 26 (2 wins, 1 2nd)
Jarno Trulli 26 (2 2nd, 2 3rd) - 16 points and 3 of the podiums were for Minardi
Pedro Diniz 20 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Jean Alesi 18 (1 win, 2 3rd)
Ukyo Katayama 17 (2 2nd)
Jan Magnussen 16 (4 3rd)
Shinji Nakano 14 (1 win, 2 5th)
Tarso Marques 14 (1 3rd, 2 4th)
Nicola Larini/Norberto Fontana both 13 (1 2nd, 1 3rd, 1 4th) - impossible to separate
Gerhard Berger 12 (1 win)
Rubens Barrichello 8 (1 2nd)
Mika Hakkinen 7 (1 2nd)
Johnny Herbert 6 (1 2nd)
Heinz-Harald Frentzen 6 (1 2nd) - what a way to come down from three staright championships!
Olivier Panis 6 (2 4th)
Villeneuve and both Schumachers keep a clean sheet (quite a surprise for Ralf me thinks!)
Tyrrell 73
Sauber 59
Arrows 49
Minardi 47
McLaren 37
Jordan 33
Benetton 30 (2 wins)
Prost 30 (1 win)
Ferrari 26
Stewart 24
Williams 6
Race winners:
Australia: Nakano (on debut - that'll please someone!)
Brazil: Coulthard
Argentina: Salo
San Marino: Alesi
Monaco: Salo (now we now why he never stopped!)
Spain: Verstappen
Canada: Diniz
France: Coulthard
Great Britain: Fisichella
Germany: Hill
Hungary: Irvine
Belgium: Irvine
Italy: Morbidelli
Austria: Berger (how ironic he wins his home race!)
Luxembourg: Morbidelli
Japan: Coulthard
Europe: Fisichella
Given the field was overall close that year, a slow and reliable car was what was needed to win this and the Tyrrell did the trick. It's alarming now well Hill does at this and I really expected Nakano to do really at this - he was often the last unlapped runner. Also quite a few races had the oly scorers being stragglers who had problems but still classified. Drivers like Coulthard and Irvine's scores were when they were punted off on the last lap in France and Hungary for instance! But I always enjoy seeing alternative winners like Diniz, Morbidelli and Verstappen, indeed Nurburgring only Morbidelli and Salo were lapped and finished.
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by James1978 » 30 Jul 2011, 05:52
Ladies and Gentlemen, we have our first 4-time champion!!!
1998
Heinz-Harald Frentzen 39 (3 wins, 1 2nd)
Jacques Villeneuve 39 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Alexander Wurz 38 (3 wins, 1 2nd)
Jarno Trulli 32 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Johnny Herbert 32 (1 win, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Jean Alesi 27 (1 win, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Giancarlo Fisichella 24 (3 2nd, 1 3rd)
Damon Hill 22 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Rubens Barrichello 21 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Shinji Nakano 18 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Ralf Schumacher 13 (1 2nd, 1 3rd, 1 4th)
Toranosuke Takagi 13 (1 2nd, 1 3rd, 1 5th, 1 6th)
David Coulthard 12 (2 2nd)
Jan Magnussen 11 (1 win)
Mika Hakkinen 10 (1 win)
Pedro Diniz 10 (1 2nd)
Olivier Panis 10 (1 3rd)
Eddie Irvine 9 (1 2nd)
Esteban Tuero 8 (1 3rd)
Mika Salo 7 (1 3rd, 1 4th)
Ricardo Rosset 7 (1 3rd, 1 5th, 1 6th)
Jos Verstappen 1 (1 6th)
Michael Schumacher 1 (1 6th)
Williams 78
Benetton 62
Sauber 59
Prost 42
Jordan 35
Stewart 33
Minardi 26
McLaren 22
Tyrrell 20
Arrows 17
Ferrari 10
Race winners:
Australia: Frentzen
Brazil: Frentzen
Argentina: Hill
San Marino: Alesi
Spain: Barrichello
Monaco: Villeneuve
Canada: Magnussen (!!!!)
France: Wurz
Great Britain: Wurz
Austria: Herbert
Germany: Trulli (in a Prost - long lap remember!)
Hungary: Hakkinen (when he had car problems)
Belgium: Trulli (long lap and safety car)
Italy: Frentzen
Luxembourg: Villeneuve
Japan: Wurz
Unlike 1997, two teams were further outfront this year, meaning this championship was contested by the upper midfield (Williams, Benetton, Sauber and the likes). The Williams teammates were level on points for the whole of the second half of the season more or less - after Silverstone their only scores were a win apiece but Frentzen was always ahead on countback. Wurz made a great late charge but his downfall was being the last unlapped runner at Nurburgring.Magnuseen is the only really obscure winner in Canada but consider that Nakano in a Minardi finished JUST behind him.
And unusually, EVERY participating driver scores!
1998
Heinz-Harald Frentzen 39 (3 wins, 1 2nd)
Jacques Villeneuve 39 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Alexander Wurz 38 (3 wins, 1 2nd)
Jarno Trulli 32 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Johnny Herbert 32 (1 win, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Jean Alesi 27 (1 win, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Giancarlo Fisichella 24 (3 2nd, 1 3rd)
Damon Hill 22 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Rubens Barrichello 21 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Shinji Nakano 18 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Ralf Schumacher 13 (1 2nd, 1 3rd, 1 4th)
Toranosuke Takagi 13 (1 2nd, 1 3rd, 1 5th, 1 6th)
David Coulthard 12 (2 2nd)
Jan Magnussen 11 (1 win)
Mika Hakkinen 10 (1 win)
Pedro Diniz 10 (1 2nd)
Olivier Panis 10 (1 3rd)
Eddie Irvine 9 (1 2nd)
Esteban Tuero 8 (1 3rd)
Mika Salo 7 (1 3rd, 1 4th)
Ricardo Rosset 7 (1 3rd, 1 5th, 1 6th)
Jos Verstappen 1 (1 6th)
Michael Schumacher 1 (1 6th)
Williams 78
Benetton 62
Sauber 59
Prost 42
Jordan 35
Stewart 33
Minardi 26
McLaren 22
Tyrrell 20
Arrows 17
Ferrari 10
Race winners:
Australia: Frentzen
Brazil: Frentzen
Argentina: Hill
San Marino: Alesi
Spain: Barrichello
Monaco: Villeneuve
Canada: Magnussen (!!!!)
France: Wurz
Great Britain: Wurz
Austria: Herbert
Germany: Trulli (in a Prost - long lap remember!)
Hungary: Hakkinen (when he had car problems)
Belgium: Trulli (long lap and safety car)
Italy: Frentzen
Luxembourg: Villeneuve
Japan: Wurz
Unlike 1997, two teams were further outfront this year, meaning this championship was contested by the upper midfield (Williams, Benetton, Sauber and the likes). The Williams teammates were level on points for the whole of the second half of the season more or less - after Silverstone their only scores were a win apiece but Frentzen was always ahead on countback. Wurz made a great late charge but his downfall was being the last unlapped runner at Nurburgring.Magnuseen is the only really obscure winner in Canada but consider that Nakano in a Minardi finished JUST behind him.
And unusually, EVERY participating driver scores!
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by James1978 » 01 Aug 2011, 05:14
1999
Jarno Trulli 34 (3 wins, 1 3rd)
Marc Gene 34 (2 wins, 2 2nd)
Olivier Panis 32 (1 win, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Luca Badoer 25 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Jean Alesi 23 (2 wins, 1 4th)
Giancarlo Fisichella 22 (1 win, 2 3rd)
Damon Hill 18 (3 2nd)
Jacques Villeneuve 17 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Rubens Barrichello 16 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Johnny Herbert 15 (2 2nd)
Heinz-Harald Frentzen 13 (1 win)
Ralf Schumacher 12 (2 2nd)
Alexander Wurz 12 (1 2nd)
Mika Salo 12 (2 3rd) (6 each for BAR and Ferrari)
Ricardo Zonta 11 (1 win)
Michael Schumacher 10 (1 win)
Alessandro Zanardi 9 (1 2nd)
Pedro De La Rosa 7 (1 2nd)
Toranosuke Takagi 5 (1 3rd)
Eddie Irvine 4 (1 3rd)
Pedro Diniz 1 (1 6th)
Prost 66
Minardi 59
BAR 34 (2 wins)
Benetton 34 (1 win)
Jordan 31 (1 win, 3 2nd)
Stewart 31 (1 win, 2 2nd)
Sauber 24
Williams 21
Ferrari 20
Arrows 12
McLaren 0
Race winners:
Australia: Michael Schumacher
Brazil: Frentzen
San Marino: Barrichello
Monaco: Fisichella
Spain: Trulli
Canada: Gene
France: Badoer
Great Britian: Alesi
Austria: Trulli
Germany: Badoer
Hungary: Trulli
Belgium: Villeneuve
Italy: Panis
Europe: Zonta
Malaysia: Gene
Japan: Alesi
Thanks to a fairly close field and lots of safety cars, this is one of my favourite seasons for this, note all the obscure winners, including LUCA BADOER!!! Indeed Minardi came very close to both championships, if Alesi's engine hadn't gone at the end at Silverstone then Gene would have been champion.
Lots of races had very few lapped finishers or even classified runners, indeed at Melbourne (Schumacher) and Monza (Panis) they were the only lapped cars classified!
I'm staggered how badly Arrows far in comparison to Minardi though.
Jarno Trulli 34 (3 wins, 1 3rd)
Marc Gene 34 (2 wins, 2 2nd)
Olivier Panis 32 (1 win, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Luca Badoer 25 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Jean Alesi 23 (2 wins, 1 4th)
Giancarlo Fisichella 22 (1 win, 2 3rd)
Damon Hill 18 (3 2nd)
Jacques Villeneuve 17 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Rubens Barrichello 16 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Johnny Herbert 15 (2 2nd)
Heinz-Harald Frentzen 13 (1 win)
Ralf Schumacher 12 (2 2nd)
Alexander Wurz 12 (1 2nd)
Mika Salo 12 (2 3rd) (6 each for BAR and Ferrari)
Ricardo Zonta 11 (1 win)
Michael Schumacher 10 (1 win)
Alessandro Zanardi 9 (1 2nd)
Pedro De La Rosa 7 (1 2nd)
Toranosuke Takagi 5 (1 3rd)
Eddie Irvine 4 (1 3rd)
Pedro Diniz 1 (1 6th)
Prost 66
Minardi 59
BAR 34 (2 wins)
Benetton 34 (1 win)
Jordan 31 (1 win, 3 2nd)
Stewart 31 (1 win, 2 2nd)
Sauber 24
Williams 21
Ferrari 20
Arrows 12
McLaren 0
Race winners:
Australia: Michael Schumacher
Brazil: Frentzen
San Marino: Barrichello
Monaco: Fisichella
Spain: Trulli
Canada: Gene
France: Badoer
Great Britian: Alesi
Austria: Trulli
Germany: Badoer
Hungary: Trulli
Belgium: Villeneuve
Italy: Panis
Europe: Zonta
Malaysia: Gene
Japan: Alesi
Thanks to a fairly close field and lots of safety cars, this is one of my favourite seasons for this, note all the obscure winners, including LUCA BADOER!!! Indeed Minardi came very close to both championships, if Alesi's engine hadn't gone at the end at Silverstone then Gene would have been champion.
Lots of races had very few lapped finishers or even classified runners, indeed at Melbourne (Schumacher) and Monza (Panis) they were the only lapped cars classified!
I'm staggered how badly Arrows far in comparison to Minardi though.
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by James1978 » 03 Aug 2011, 03:17
2000
Mika Salo 54 (3 wins, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Jacques Villeneuve 39 (3 wins, 1 2nd)
Jenson Button 32 (1 win, 3 2nd, 1 3rd)
Giancarlo Fisichella 30 (1 win, 1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Nick Heidfeld 27 (1 win, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Pedro Diniz 27 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Ricardo Zonta 24 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Marc Gene 23 (1 win, 2 3rd)
Alexander Wurz 21 (1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Eddie Irvine 20 (1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Heinz-Harald Frentzen 18 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Johnny Herbert 17 (1 2nd)
Jos Verstappen 15 (3 3rd)
Ralf Schumacher 13 (1 win, 1 4th)
Jarno Trulli 13 (1 win, 1 5th, 1 6th)
Gaston Mazzacane 13 (1 2nd) - MAZZACANE ON THE PODIUM!!!!
David Coulthard/Mika Hakkinen both 10 (1 win) - impossible to separate
Pedro De La Rosa 8 (2 4th, 1 5th)
Jean Alesi 8 (2 4th, 1 6th)
Rubens Barrichello 6 (1 2nd)
Big fat zero for Michael Schumacher.
Sauber 81
BAR 63
Benetton 51
Williams 45
Jaguar 37
Minardi 36
Prost 35
Jordan 31
Arrows 23
McLaren 20
Ferrari 6
Race winners:
Australia: Gene (only two cars classified and lapped)
Brazil: Ralf Schumacher
San marino: Villeneuve
Great Britain: Fisichella
Spain: Salo
Europe: Coulthard (how he got lapped there I'll never know though I guess Barrichello did too so maybe they were just both deadbeat teammates!!)
Monaco: Hakkinen (at least he was delayed!!)
Canada: Button
France: Frentzen
Austria: Villeneuve
Germany: Heidfeld (he didn't finish but everyone actually running was on the lead lap due to all the safety cars)
Hungary: Trulli
Belgium: Zonta
Italy: Salo
USA: Diniz
Japan: Villeneuve
Malaysia: Salo
Second title for Salo, quite comfortable for him too. Heidfeld also does very well considering what car he was driving, I think he should do very well in this championship!! Again I'm really surprised how badly Arrows do - they only just beat McLaren!
Mika Salo 54 (3 wins, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Jacques Villeneuve 39 (3 wins, 1 2nd)
Jenson Button 32 (1 win, 3 2nd, 1 3rd)
Giancarlo Fisichella 30 (1 win, 1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Nick Heidfeld 27 (1 win, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Pedro Diniz 27 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Ricardo Zonta 24 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Marc Gene 23 (1 win, 2 3rd)
Alexander Wurz 21 (1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Eddie Irvine 20 (1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Heinz-Harald Frentzen 18 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Johnny Herbert 17 (1 2nd)
Jos Verstappen 15 (3 3rd)
Ralf Schumacher 13 (1 win, 1 4th)
Jarno Trulli 13 (1 win, 1 5th, 1 6th)
Gaston Mazzacane 13 (1 2nd) - MAZZACANE ON THE PODIUM!!!!
David Coulthard/Mika Hakkinen both 10 (1 win) - impossible to separate
Pedro De La Rosa 8 (2 4th, 1 5th)
Jean Alesi 8 (2 4th, 1 6th)
Rubens Barrichello 6 (1 2nd)
Big fat zero for Michael Schumacher.
Sauber 81
BAR 63
Benetton 51
Williams 45
Jaguar 37
Minardi 36
Prost 35
Jordan 31
Arrows 23
McLaren 20
Ferrari 6
Race winners:
Australia: Gene (only two cars classified and lapped)
Brazil: Ralf Schumacher
San marino: Villeneuve
Great Britain: Fisichella
Spain: Salo
Europe: Coulthard (how he got lapped there I'll never know though I guess Barrichello did too so maybe they were just both deadbeat teammates!!)
Monaco: Hakkinen (at least he was delayed!!)
Canada: Button
France: Frentzen
Austria: Villeneuve
Germany: Heidfeld (he didn't finish but everyone actually running was on the lead lap due to all the safety cars)
Hungary: Trulli
Belgium: Zonta
Italy: Salo
USA: Diniz
Japan: Villeneuve
Malaysia: Salo
Second title for Salo, quite comfortable for him too. Heidfeld also does very well considering what car he was driving, I think he should do very well in this championship!! Again I'm really surprised how badly Arrows do - they only just beat McLaren!
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by James1978 » 04 Aug 2011, 21:05
I did try and post the 2001 results up last night but the site crashed while in the process.
Suffice to say if there's anyone you'd expect to win this championship in the 2000s, it's him!
Suffice to say if there's anyone you'd expect to win this championship in the 2000s, it's him!
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by James1978 » 05 Aug 2011, 03:05
2001
Nick Heidfeld 54 (3 wins, 3 2nd)
Jean Alesi 52 (2 wins, 4 2nd) - 30 for Prost, 22 and both the wins for Jordan
Jos Verstappen 35 (1 win, 2 2nd)
Heinz-Harald Frentzen 33 (2 wins, 2 3rd) - 18 for Jordan, 15 for Prost, one win for each team
Luciano Burti 28 (1 win, 3 3rd) - 15 including the win for Jaguar, 13 for Prost
Kimi Raikkonen 27 (1 win, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Jarno Trulli 26 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Olivier Panis 26 (2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Pedro De La Rosa 22 (2 wins)
Jacques Villeneuve 22 (1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Giancarlo Fisichella 19 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Enrique Bernoldi 17 (1 win)
Fernando Alonso 13 (1 3rd)
Jenson Button 12 (2 3rd)
Eddie Irvine 11 (1 2nd)
Mika Hakkinen/David Coulthard both 10 (1 win)
Ricardo Zonta 6 (1 2nd)
Tarso Marques 5 (1 4th)
Juan Pablo Montoya 4 (1 3rd)
Tomas Enge 2 (1 5th)
Gaston Mazzacane 2 (1 5th)
Sauber 81
Jordan 72
Prost 62
Arrows 52
Jaguar 48 (3 wins)
BAR 48 (no wins)
Benetton 31
McLaren 20
Minardi 18
Williams 4
Ferrari 0
Race winners:
Australia: Burti
Malaysia: Trulli
Brazil: Heidfeld
San Marino: Frentzen
Spain: Hakkinen (as he stopped on last lap)
Austria: Verstappen
Monaco: Coulthard
Canada: De La Rosa
Europe: De La Rosa
France: Heidfeld
Great Britain: Raikkonen
Germany: Bernoldi (!)
Hungary: Heidfeld
Belgium: Frentzen
Italy: Alesi ( great way to go out infront of the Tifosi)
USA: Alesi
Japan: Trulli
Very dodgy goings-on here. Alesi was 4 points in front of Heidfeld going to Japan, and Alesi was then knocked out of the race being caught up in Heidfeld's teammate Raikkonen's accident. Suspicious? Jordan did actually have the chance for revenge with Trulli winning the lapped race from Heidfeld but they took the moral high ground, but 2nd seasled the championship for Nick.
Interstingly the McLaren teammates tie with one win and nothing else for the second year running, and the last race on the long Hockenheim provided a great podium - two Arrows and a Minardi! At least we still have Spa for a very long lap!
Nick Heidfeld 54 (3 wins, 3 2nd)
Jean Alesi 52 (2 wins, 4 2nd) - 30 for Prost, 22 and both the wins for Jordan
Jos Verstappen 35 (1 win, 2 2nd)
Heinz-Harald Frentzen 33 (2 wins, 2 3rd) - 18 for Jordan, 15 for Prost, one win for each team
Luciano Burti 28 (1 win, 3 3rd) - 15 including the win for Jaguar, 13 for Prost
Kimi Raikkonen 27 (1 win, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Jarno Trulli 26 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Olivier Panis 26 (2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Pedro De La Rosa 22 (2 wins)
Jacques Villeneuve 22 (1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Giancarlo Fisichella 19 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Enrique Bernoldi 17 (1 win)
Fernando Alonso 13 (1 3rd)
Jenson Button 12 (2 3rd)
Eddie Irvine 11 (1 2nd)
Mika Hakkinen/David Coulthard both 10 (1 win)
Ricardo Zonta 6 (1 2nd)
Tarso Marques 5 (1 4th)
Juan Pablo Montoya 4 (1 3rd)
Tomas Enge 2 (1 5th)
Gaston Mazzacane 2 (1 5th)
Sauber 81
Jordan 72
Prost 62
Arrows 52
Jaguar 48 (3 wins)
BAR 48 (no wins)
Benetton 31
McLaren 20
Minardi 18
Williams 4
Ferrari 0
Race winners:
Australia: Burti
Malaysia: Trulli
Brazil: Heidfeld
San Marino: Frentzen
Spain: Hakkinen (as he stopped on last lap)
Austria: Verstappen
Monaco: Coulthard
Canada: De La Rosa
Europe: De La Rosa
France: Heidfeld
Great Britain: Raikkonen
Germany: Bernoldi (!)
Hungary: Heidfeld
Belgium: Frentzen
Italy: Alesi ( great way to go out infront of the Tifosi)
USA: Alesi
Japan: Trulli
Very dodgy goings-on here. Alesi was 4 points in front of Heidfeld going to Japan, and Alesi was then knocked out of the race being caught up in Heidfeld's teammate Raikkonen's accident. Suspicious? Jordan did actually have the chance for revenge with Trulli winning the lapped race from Heidfeld but they took the moral high ground, but 2nd seasled the championship for Nick.
Interstingly the McLaren teammates tie with one win and nothing else for the second year running, and the last race on the long Hockenheim provided a great podium - two Arrows and a Minardi! At least we still have Spa for a very long lap!
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by James1978 » 05 Aug 2011, 06:02
2002
Nick Heidfeld 60 (1 win, 6 2nd, 2 3rd)
Jacques Villeneuve 41 (3 wins, 1 2nd)
Mika Salo 34 (2 wins, 3 3rd)
Felipe Massa 31 (1 win, 2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Jarno Trulli 30 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Takuma Sato 28 (1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Jenson Button 27 (2 wins, 1 2nd)
Olivier Panis 25 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Eddie Irvine 23 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Giancarlo Fisichella 22 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Allan McNish 21 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Mark Webber 21 (1 2nd, 2 3rd)
David Coulthard 20 (2 wins)
Pedro De La Rosa 12 (1 3rd)
Heinz-Harald Frentzen 11 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Alex Yoong 9 (1 3rd)
Ralf Schumacher 5 (2 5th)
Rubens Barrichello 3 (1 4th)
Juan Pablo Montoya 3 (1 4th)
Enrique Bernoldi 2 (1 5th)
Sauber 91
BAR 66
Renault 57
Toyota 55
Jordan 50
Jaguar 35
Minardi 30
McLaren 20
Arrows 13
Williams 8
Ferrari 3
Race winners:
Australia: Irvine
Malaysia: Heidfeld
Brazil: Salo
San Marino: Coulthard
Spain: Villeneuve
Austria: Villeneuve
Monaco: Trulli
Canada: Panis
Europe: Massa
Great Britain: Villeneuve
France: Button
Germany: Coulthard
Hungary: Trulli
Belgium: McNish
Italy: Salo
USA: Fisichella
Japan: Button
Sauber are the legends of this championship surely - in their first decade they have had 6 drivers championships and 5 constructors championships! Heidfeld failed to score in only 5 races even though he only managed 1 win, and one of those was Monza when Ferrari were messing about letting people unlap themselves at the end. Villenueve looked like he was running away with it with 31 points after Austria but only scored one more time after that, his win at Silverstone. Toyota also win 3 races in their debut season, and for the third year in succession Mclaren get just two wins though they both went to DC this time - he was lapped on merit at Imola and Hockenheim IIRC which really surprised me ( I don't remember him having any obvious delays), the only other times a driver from the top 3 teams scores in when they had problems.
Nick Heidfeld 60 (1 win, 6 2nd, 2 3rd)
Jacques Villeneuve 41 (3 wins, 1 2nd)
Mika Salo 34 (2 wins, 3 3rd)
Felipe Massa 31 (1 win, 2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Jarno Trulli 30 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Takuma Sato 28 (1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Jenson Button 27 (2 wins, 1 2nd)
Olivier Panis 25 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Eddie Irvine 23 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Giancarlo Fisichella 22 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Allan McNish 21 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Mark Webber 21 (1 2nd, 2 3rd)
David Coulthard 20 (2 wins)
Pedro De La Rosa 12 (1 3rd)
Heinz-Harald Frentzen 11 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Alex Yoong 9 (1 3rd)
Ralf Schumacher 5 (2 5th)
Rubens Barrichello 3 (1 4th)
Juan Pablo Montoya 3 (1 4th)
Enrique Bernoldi 2 (1 5th)
Sauber 91
BAR 66
Renault 57
Toyota 55
Jordan 50
Jaguar 35
Minardi 30
McLaren 20
Arrows 13
Williams 8
Ferrari 3
Race winners:
Australia: Irvine
Malaysia: Heidfeld
Brazil: Salo
San Marino: Coulthard
Spain: Villeneuve
Austria: Villeneuve
Monaco: Trulli
Canada: Panis
Europe: Massa
Great Britain: Villeneuve
France: Button
Germany: Coulthard
Hungary: Trulli
Belgium: McNish
Italy: Salo
USA: Fisichella
Japan: Button
Sauber are the legends of this championship surely - in their first decade they have had 6 drivers championships and 5 constructors championships! Heidfeld failed to score in only 5 races even though he only managed 1 win, and one of those was Monza when Ferrari were messing about letting people unlap themselves at the end. Villenueve looked like he was running away with it with 31 points after Austria but only scored one more time after that, his win at Silverstone. Toyota also win 3 races in their debut season, and for the third year in succession Mclaren get just two wins though they both went to DC this time - he was lapped on merit at Imola and Hockenheim IIRC which really surprised me ( I don't remember him having any obvious delays), the only other times a driver from the top 3 teams scores in when they had problems.
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by QuickYoda41 » 05 Aug 2011, 06:22
I love this championship. 
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by James1978 » 05 Aug 2011, 22:32
QuickYoda41 wrote:I love this championship.
Glad you like it!
I'm dreading to think how 2003 might turn out, of course points get awarded down to 8th, however the field was quite close that year and only 10 teams competing might make quite a nonsense of that.
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by James1978 » 07 Aug 2011, 02:10
2003
Mark Webber 62 (3 wins, 3 2nd, 1 3rd)
Cristiano Da Matta 61 (1 win, 3 2nd)
Nick Heidfeld 46 (4 3rd)
Olivier Panis 38 (1 win, 3 2nd)
Jenson Button 38 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Jos Verstappen 35 (1 win, 2 3rd)
Ralph Firman 35 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Giancarlo Fisichella 31 (3 2nd)
Ralf Schumacher 30 (3 wins)
Jarno Trulli 29 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Antonio Pizzonia 27 (1 3rd, 3 4th)
Justin Wilson 24 (1 2nd, 1 3rd) - 14 and both podiums for Jaguar, 10 for Minardi
Jacques Villeneuve 22 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Michael Schumacher 22 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Heinz-Harald Frentzen 18 (2 4th)
Rubens Barrichello 16 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Nicolas Kiesa 12 (1 5th, 1 6th) - unrejectification!
Juan Pablo Montoya 11 (1 win)
Fernando Alonso 6 (1 3rd)
HWNSNBM 3 (1 6th)
Jaguar 103
Toyota 99
Jordan 69
Sauber 64
BAR 60
Minardi 57
Williams 41
Ferrari 38
Renault 35
McLaren 0
Race winners:
Australia: Verstappen
Malaysia: Trulli
Brazil: Webber
San Marino: Button
Spain: Ralf Schumacher
Austria: Ralf Schumacher
Monaco: Da Matta
Canada: Webber
Europe: Webber
France: Barrichello
Great Britain: Firman (!!!)
Germany: Panis
Hungary: Trulli (ha, everyone gasped at Schumacher being lapped there, but Trulli was a lap behind his teammate on merit, should have been Reject of the Race if you ask me!!)
Italy: Villeneuve
USA: Montoya
Japan: Ralf Schumacher
Another close one - Da Matta was ahead of Webber in Japan but neither of them ended up lapped. I was sort of hoping Da Matta would win to make an unusual champion but a closely-fought constructors championship between the almightly teams of Jaguar and Toyota is enough to make one's head explode!
That man Heidfeld was in contention for a hat-trick until the last couple of races too, shame he ended up last unlapped runner at Indy..
Verstappen gets Minardi's first win under Paul Stoddart in Oz too, shame it wasn't Webber who could have done it the year before mind you.
Also it's amazing how well Ralf Schumacher does given he was in one the best cars of the season, and it's also weird how McLaren failed to get lapped at all while the other three leading teams did it aplenty!
Mark Webber 62 (3 wins, 3 2nd, 1 3rd)
Cristiano Da Matta 61 (1 win, 3 2nd)
Nick Heidfeld 46 (4 3rd)
Olivier Panis 38 (1 win, 3 2nd)
Jenson Button 38 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Jos Verstappen 35 (1 win, 2 3rd)
Ralph Firman 35 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Giancarlo Fisichella 31 (3 2nd)
Ralf Schumacher 30 (3 wins)
Jarno Trulli 29 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Antonio Pizzonia 27 (1 3rd, 3 4th)
Justin Wilson 24 (1 2nd, 1 3rd) - 14 and both podiums for Jaguar, 10 for Minardi
Jacques Villeneuve 22 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Michael Schumacher 22 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Heinz-Harald Frentzen 18 (2 4th)
Rubens Barrichello 16 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Nicolas Kiesa 12 (1 5th, 1 6th) - unrejectification!
Juan Pablo Montoya 11 (1 win)
Fernando Alonso 6 (1 3rd)
HWNSNBM 3 (1 6th)
Jaguar 103
Toyota 99
Jordan 69
Sauber 64
BAR 60
Minardi 57
Williams 41
Ferrari 38
Renault 35
McLaren 0
Race winners:
Australia: Verstappen
Malaysia: Trulli
Brazil: Webber
San Marino: Button
Spain: Ralf Schumacher
Austria: Ralf Schumacher
Monaco: Da Matta
Canada: Webber
Europe: Webber
France: Barrichello
Great Britain: Firman (!!!)
Germany: Panis
Hungary: Trulli (ha, everyone gasped at Schumacher being lapped there, but Trulli was a lap behind his teammate on merit, should have been Reject of the Race if you ask me!!)
Italy: Villeneuve
USA: Montoya
Japan: Ralf Schumacher
Another close one - Da Matta was ahead of Webber in Japan but neither of them ended up lapped. I was sort of hoping Da Matta would win to make an unusual champion but a closely-fought constructors championship between the almightly teams of Jaguar and Toyota is enough to make one's head explode!
That man Heidfeld was in contention for a hat-trick until the last couple of races too, shame he ended up last unlapped runner at Indy..
Verstappen gets Minardi's first win under Paul Stoddart in Oz too, shame it wasn't Webber who could have done it the year before mind you.
Also it's amazing how well Ralf Schumacher does given he was in one the best cars of the season, and it's also weird how McLaren failed to get lapped at all while the other three leading teams did it aplenty!
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Re: The Lapped Alternative Championship
by James1978 » 07 Aug 2011, 23:11
2004
Felipe Massa 71 (3 wins, 3 2nd, 2 3rd)
Christian Klien 58 (1 win, 2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Giancarlo Fisichella 52 (1 win, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Olivier Panis 51 (2 2nd, 2 4th)
Nick Heidfeld 51 (1 2nd, 3 3rd)
David Coulthard 45 (3 2nd, 2 3rd)
Cristiano Da Matta 41 (1 win, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Kimi Raikkonen 33 (2 wins, 1 2nd)
Mark Webber 31 (2 wins)
Juan Pablo Montoya 29 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Jacques Villeneuve 28 (2 wins, 1 2nd) - amazing for just 3 races!!!!
HWNSNBM 27 (1 3rd, 2 4th), yes that's right he got a podium in USA!
Jarno Trulli 24 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd) - 10 including the win for Renault, 14 and the other two pdoums for Toyota
Takuma Sato 17 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Gianmaria Bruni 17 (1 4th, 1 5th)
Ricardo Zonta 15 (1 win)
Giorgio Pantano 15 (1 3rd)
Timo Glock 14 (1 4th)
Jenson Button 10 (1 win)
Antonio Pizzonia 8 (1 2nd)
Michael Schumacher 6 (1 3rd) - it was his disaster in China!
Ralf Schumacher 2 (1 7th)
Sauber 123
Toyota 121
Jaguar 88
Jordan 80
McLaren 78
Minardi 44
Williams 39
Renault 38
BAR 27
Ferrari 6
Race winners:
Australia: Trulli
Malaysia: Massa
Bahrain: Webber
San Marino: Raikkonen
Spain: Button
Monaco: Montoya
Europe: Montoya
Canada: Fisichella
USA: Raikkonen
France: Klien
Great Britain: Da Matta
Germany: Massa
Hungary: Sato
Belgium: Zonta (everyone still running was on the lead lap due to all the safety cars!)
Italy: Massa
China: Webber
Japan: Villeneuve
Brazil: Villeneuve
And it's yet another of each championship for Sauber!! Massa had a great run of 45 points up to Canada and a further couple of wins meant he couldn't be caught. The constructors looks close but Sauber didn't score at all in the last 3 races but Toyota gained 27 points on them to just fall short. Not many obscure winners sadly - only 4 of these wins were by people who haven't won a race in real life. McLaren were also doing scarily well and both drivers were in championship contention until mid-season but their B spec car stopped them getting lapped very much after that.
And yes the greatest ever driver was on the podium behind the two McLarens at Indianapolis.
Felipe Massa 71 (3 wins, 3 2nd, 2 3rd)
Christian Klien 58 (1 win, 2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Giancarlo Fisichella 52 (1 win, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Olivier Panis 51 (2 2nd, 2 4th)
Nick Heidfeld 51 (1 2nd, 3 3rd)
David Coulthard 45 (3 2nd, 2 3rd)
Cristiano Da Matta 41 (1 win, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Kimi Raikkonen 33 (2 wins, 1 2nd)
Mark Webber 31 (2 wins)
Juan Pablo Montoya 29 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Jacques Villeneuve 28 (2 wins, 1 2nd) - amazing for just 3 races!!!!
HWNSNBM 27 (1 3rd, 2 4th), yes that's right he got a podium in USA!
Jarno Trulli 24 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd) - 10 including the win for Renault, 14 and the other two pdoums for Toyota
Takuma Sato 17 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Gianmaria Bruni 17 (1 4th, 1 5th)
Ricardo Zonta 15 (1 win)
Giorgio Pantano 15 (1 3rd)
Timo Glock 14 (1 4th)
Jenson Button 10 (1 win)
Antonio Pizzonia 8 (1 2nd)
Michael Schumacher 6 (1 3rd) - it was his disaster in China!
Ralf Schumacher 2 (1 7th)
Sauber 123
Toyota 121
Jaguar 88
Jordan 80
McLaren 78
Minardi 44
Williams 39
Renault 38
BAR 27
Ferrari 6
Race winners:
Australia: Trulli
Malaysia: Massa
Bahrain: Webber
San Marino: Raikkonen
Spain: Button
Monaco: Montoya
Europe: Montoya
Canada: Fisichella
USA: Raikkonen
France: Klien
Great Britain: Da Matta
Germany: Massa
Hungary: Sato
Belgium: Zonta (everyone still running was on the lead lap due to all the safety cars!)
Italy: Massa
China: Webber
Japan: Villeneuve
Brazil: Villeneuve
And it's yet another of each championship for Sauber!! Massa had a great run of 45 points up to Canada and a further couple of wins meant he couldn't be caught. The constructors looks close but Sauber didn't score at all in the last 3 races but Toyota gained 27 points on them to just fall short. Not many obscure winners sadly - only 4 of these wins were by people who haven't won a race in real life. McLaren were also doing scarily well and both drivers were in championship contention until mid-season but their B spec car stopped them getting lapped very much after that.
And yes the greatest ever driver was on the podium behind the two McLarens at Indianapolis.
"If you don't stop pointing your finger at me, I'll snap it off and shove it up your arse". (David Purley to Niki Lauda, 1977)
(David Purley to Niki Lauda, 1977)- James1978
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