RUMOR of Kobayashi being replaced by Jules Bianchi

[golic_2004]

http://www.inautonews.com/rumour-hints- ... -at-sauber

I really hope Peter Sauber would not even THINK about this dastardly act, with Kobayashi getting even more mature and more experienced race-after-race. I mean it's one thing to put Bianchi as a test driver for the team, yes, but not in the actual race seat itself. Besides that, Kamui is not only a great driver but he is a racer as well and he has earned his seat in F1 for many years to come.

[DanielPT]

If this really ends up happening, my liking, love and admiration for Peter Sauber's effort (it is one of my preferred teams) would turn instantly into hate. And I don't want that to happen. Besides, that would rob us from one of the best racers in the grid.

[Shadaza]

According to Sauber's own Facebook page:

"Sauber F1 Team
Unfortunately someone published nonsense about Kamui leaving our team. Stupid. We are very fond of him, he stays with us!"

So relax guys.

[Minardi Man]

God, why would Sauber hire Bianchi of all people over Kamui anyway, extremely glad this is just nonsense.
Hoping to see Sauber move up the grid next year.

[mario]

God, why would Sauber hire Bianchi of all people over Kamui anyway, extremely glad this is just nonsense.
Hoping to see Sauber move up the grid next year.

The only reason why I could see Sauber hiring Bianchi right now would be if Ferrari persuaded them to do so, either through offering them additional technical assistance or a discount on the parts they supply them with.
Given that Sauber uses the Ferrari engine and a version of the Magnetti Marelli KERS developed by Ferrari, not to mention Ferrari's transmission system and, as a result, a similar rear suspension layout, there would be considerable advantages either from collaborating with Ferrari on technical research or from receiving discounted/free engines etc., which would free up funding for other areas of development.

In the future, though, I would not rule out the possibility that Bianchi could end up at Sauber, but only if he manages to perform more consistently in the 2012 GP2 championship (he was fast enough to score several podiums and a victory but also had a few disappointing race weekends). 3rd in the GP2 Championship is still a fairly good result, but with Grosjean dominating the series this year and Ferrari showing some interest in Perez following his stronger form in the latter half of this season, Bianchi will need to put in a very strong performance next year - otherwise he might find himself being edged out by Perez instead.

[Captain Hammer]

I really hope Peter Sauber would not even THINK about this dastardly act

Congratulations! You win the prize for being the Alarmist Forum Member of the Week!

I mean I have to ask: what if this story was true, but we only knew half of it? What if Sauber were indeed looking at replacing Kobayashi with Bianchi - because Ferrari wanted Kobayashi for themselves?

[Mister Fungus]

I read a rumour (on autosport forums mind you) that Bianchi is set to become a reserve driver for Force India.

[Stramala]

I really hope Peter Sauber would not even THINK about this dastardly act

Congratulations! You win the prize for being the Alarmist Forum Member of the Week!

For the second time this week, Picard is needed;


Your extremely pointed retorts were whimiscal to most of us once upon a time, but when eagleash of all people says you've gone too far about something you just know that's when to apply the brakes and do a U-turn. You're starting to become downright offensive towards random people on the forum, it looks like your time on the Autosport forums has finally gotten to you.

Nobody likes a meanie. I'm just saying what a lot of us are thinking right now.

[Stramala]

My reaction to this rumour
It's almost a shame Geoff Willis doesn't work for Sauber

[Captain Hammer]

Your extremely pointed retorts were whimiscal to most of us once upon a time, but when eagleash of all people says you've gone too far about something you just know that's when to apply the brakes and do a U-turn. You're starting to become downright offensive towards random people on the forum, it looks like your time on the Autosport forums has finally gotten to you.

And for the third time this week, Picard is needed:



You clearly didn't read my post. In fact, you probably didn't read anything beyond what you quoted. And you probably didn't read golic_2004's post, either - if you did, you would see that it is indeed quite alarmist. For one, it was posted hours after Sauber pointedly denied that it would happen. And secondly, it's a massive over-reaction to half a "story". As I highlighted in my last post, what if this was indeed true, but it played out in a way that was good for Kobayashi? golic_2004 obviously read the rumours and reacted to them straight away without taking the time to look for more information on it. That's alarmism if I've ever seen it.

So if you want to throw stones, that's fine by me. Just don't be surprised when I say "I told you so" because you maanged to destroy your own glass house.

[eurobrun]

Stop fighting children

[DanielPT]

Stop fighting children

Well, that is ironic to say the least!

[East Londoner]

Your extremely pointed retorts were whimiscal to most of us once upon a time, but when eagleash of all people says you've gone too far about something you just know that's when to apply the brakes and do a U-turn. You're starting to become downright offensive towards random people on the forum, it looks like your time on the Autosport forums has finally gotten to you.

And for the third time this week, Picard is needed:



You clearly didn't read my post. In fact, you probably didn't read anything beyond what you quoted. And you probably didn't read golic_2004's post, either - if you did, you would see that it is indeed quite alarmist. For one, it was posted hours after Sauber pointedly denied that it would happen. And secondly, it's a massive over-reaction to half a "story". As I highlighted in my last post, what if this was indeed true, but it played out in a way that was good for Kobayashi? golic_2004 obviously read the rumours and reacted to them straight away without taking the time to look for more information on it. That's alarmism if I've ever seen it.

So if you want to throw stones, that's fine by me. Just don't be surprised when I say "I told you so" because you maanged to destroy your own glass house.

What's wrong with posting rumours on a FORUM? They are the bread and butter of many forums, and can provide some interesting discussion and predictions. Please, don't start turning this into the Autosport forums, a dour humourless place. I have to agree with Kostas and eagleash here.

[golic_2004]

http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/ ... t-rumours/

Case Closed!

[Captain Hammer]

What's wrong with posting rumours on a FORUM?

There's nothing wrong with posting rumours on a forum. It's the way those rumours were posted.

[DanielPT]

What's wrong with posting rumours on a FORUM?

There's nothing wrong with posting rumours on a forum. It's the way those rumours were posted.

You see? There's nothing wrong with you disagreeing with someone on this forum. It's just the way you do it.

[AdrianSutil]

What's wrong with posting rumours on a FORUM?

There's nothing wrong with posting rumours on a forum. It's the way those rumours were posted.

You see? There's nothing wrong with you disagreeing with someone on this forum. It's just the way you do it.

This.

Just calm down Cpt. hammer. There's never any need to go off on one. This is an Internet forum, where probably 3% of members ACTUALLY know someone else on here, so stop treating everyone like a child with your attitude.

[Ataxia]

Guys, we can stop with this arguing now, yeah? I'm super cereal...

[eurobrun]

Stop fighting children

Well, that is ironic to say the least!

You do have a point though.

Anyway, Hammer needs to stop having a problem with people posting rumours and go back to rearranging filing cabinets.

[mario]

What's wrong with posting rumours on a FORUM?

There's nothing wrong with posting rumours on a forum. It's the way those rumours were posted.

Whilst it is true that the original statement by golic_2004 was melodramatic, as others have pointed out there was a certain amount of dramatic exaggeration for comic effect to play on Kobayashi's popularity amongst posters here. Equally, although you might not have intended your response to come across the way it did, I would advise you to perhaps be a little more careful in expressing your opinions - it can be all too easy to write something that comes across in a more vitriolic manner than you might have intended.
Anyway, back, perhaps, towards Bianchi and his chances of entering F1. As things stand, I wouldn't be surprised if he does eventually drive for Sauber, either as a test driver or a race drier, albeit probably in a year or two (his chances of getting a test driver seat might well improve if mid season testing is reintroduced, since that would make being a test driver actually worth something and give Ferrari a chance to see what Bianchi can do in an F1 car).

[Wizzie]

There's nothing wrong with posting rumours on a forum. It's the way those rumours were posted.

You see? There's nothing wrong with you disagreeing with someone on this forum. It's just the way you do it.

This.

Just calm down Cpt. hammer. There's never any need to go off on one. This is an Internet forum, where probably 3% of members ACTUALLY know someone else on here, so stop treating everyone like a child with your attitude.

I'm one of the 3%

Anyways back to Bianchi and the concern I have is that he has a habit of either crashing far too much or simply having too many off weekends if his GP2 results are anything to go by (But, as Kobayashi proved, they mean nothing if you can perform in an F1 car)

[AdrianSutil]

You and TMLW go to the same Uni don't ya?

Anyway, I can see Bianchi moving up to Sauber ONLY if Perez goes to Ferrari.

[Wizzie]

You and TMLW go to the same Uni don't ya?

Same high school. And one of these days I'll drag Mr Macklin on here as well

[JeremyMcClean]

You and TMLW go to the same Uni don't ya?

Same high school. And one of these days I'll drag Mr Macklin on here as well

What will he say when he finds out he's been "entered" in the F2RWRS?

[eagleash]

Your extremely pointed retorts were whimiscal to most of us once upon a time, but when eagleash of all people says you've gone too far about something you just know that's when to apply the brakes and do a U-turn. You're starting to become downright offensive towards random people on the forum, it looks like your time on the Autosport forums has finally gotten to you.

Nobody likes a meanie. I'm just saying what a lot of us are thinking right now.

WHAAAT? Of all people? Should I feel insulted?

[Wizzie]

You and TMLW go to the same Uni don't ya?

Same high school. And one of these days I'll drag Mr Macklin on here as well

What will he say when he finds out he's been "entered" in the F2RWRS?

He was indifferent about it. Until he found out he was actually half-descent

[Stramala]

Your extremely pointed retorts were whimiscal to most of us once upon a time, but when eagleash of all people says you've gone too far about something you just know that's when to apply the brakes and do a U-turn. You're starting to become downright offensive towards random people on the forum, it looks like your time on the Autosport forums has finally gotten to you.

Nobody likes a meanie. I'm just saying what a lot of us are thinking right now.

WHAAAT? Of all people? Should I feel insulted?

Eh...um...ah...I suppose if you buy into the theory of positive discrimination then yes

[eagleash]

Your extremely pointed retorts were whimiscal to most of us once upon a time, but when eagleash of all people says you've gone too far about something you just know that's when to apply the brakes and do a U-turn. You're starting to become downright offensive towards random people on the forum, it looks like your time on the Autosport forums has finally gotten to you.

Nobody likes a meanie. I'm just saying what a lot of us are thinking right now.

WHAAAT? Of all people? Should I feel insulted?

Eh...um...ah...I suppose if you buy into the theory of positive discrimination then yes

When you say "of all people" it sounds as if you mean that I am the definition of "going too far". Analogy....Wenger complaining about Ferguson saying he "didn't see" a blatant foul. I.e Wenger "of all people" saying something like that. Still I think I get your gist. Maybe.

[DanielPT]

Eh...um...ah...I suppose if you buy into the theory of positive discrimination then yes

When you say "of all people" it sounds as if you mean that I am the definition of "going too far". Analogy....Wenger complaining about Ferguson saying he "didn't see" a blatant foul. I.e Wenger "of all people" saying something like that. Still I think I get your gist. Maybe.

Well, perhaps kostas was trying to say that you are the definition of patience and tolerance. Maybe saying it in a way that, if you came out and said Captain went too far then he really was over the top. At least that is the way I saw it, unable to recall any time where you went too far. If I am wrong, then please don't mind me and my meddlesome behaviour...

[eagleash]

Eh...um...ah...I suppose if you buy into the theory of positive discrimination then yes

When you say "of all people" it sounds as if you mean that I am the definition of "going too far". Analogy....Wenger complaining about Ferguson saying he "didn't see" a blatant foul. I.e Wenger "of all people" saying something like that. Still I think I get your gist. Maybe.

Well, perhaps kostas was trying to say that you are the definition of patience and tolerance. Maybe saying it in a way that, if you came out and said Captain went too far then he really was over the top. At least that is the way I saw it, unable to recall any time where you went too far. If I am wrong, then please don't mind me and my meddlesome behaviour...

Right! Yes I've only had one real rant on here I think. & that never posted!! I prefer using what "verbal" dexterity I possess to make a point. Not really particularly patient & tolerant though if truth be told.