Pit lane limit retained

[East Londoner]

The FIA have rejected a proposal that the pit lane speed limit be reduced for this season by 25MPH (or 40KPH). Discuss.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/17209342

[ElizabethSterling]

Good.

Not much to discuss really, nothing terrible has happened in pit-stops in years. Why fix what isn't broken?

[DanielPT]

Good.

Not much to discuss really, nothing terrible has happened in pit-stops in years. Why fix what isn't broken?

Although a lower speed would make events like this even more epic.

[AdrianSutil]

I see no harm in leaving it the way it is. The only pit-lane incidents have been between cars being released too early when there's another car coming past. As long as no personnel or pit-lane marshalls get hit, it'll stay as it is.

[eytl]

Good.

As I have argued previously, the pit lane speed limit goes against the whole point of creating tactical options through the tyre rules. Who wants to make extra pit stops if the pit lane speed limit adds so much of a time penalty to stops?

[Wizzie]

Good.

As I have argued previously, the pit lane speed limit goes against the whole point of creating tactical options through the tyre rules. Who wants to make extra pit stops if the pit lane speed limit adds so much of a time penalty to stops?

The two tyre conpound rule is probably a bigger problem right now than any speed limit change could potentially create. Seriously, the rule is well past it's use by date now so we might as well get rid of it to create some more variable strategies. Drop the speed limit with it and suddenly you get a situation where teams have to face a choice between using the faster softer tyres but make more stops with a larger penalty than before against using the slower but more durable tyres for the race.

[Collieafc]

Good.

As I have argued previously, the pit lane speed limit goes against the whole point of creating tactical options through the tyre rules. Who wants to make extra pit stops if the pit lane speed limit adds so much of a time penalty to stops?

The two tyre conpound rule is probably a bigger problem right now than any speed limit change could potentially create. Seriously, the rule is well past it's use by date now so we might as well get rid of it to create some more variable strategies. Drop the speed limit with it and suddenly you get a situation where teams have to face a choice between using the faster softer tyres but make more stops with a larger penalty than before against using the slower but more durable tyres for the race.

That would be really good when we were getting the massive drop offs. If you were to remove that rule you could get 1 stoppers (maybe someone would even brave 0 stops!) with hards and others which may be 2 seconds quicker on the soft but may need 3 stops. It would bring changing track temperatures into the equation more than it does now.

You could be on to something here...

[mario]

Good.

As I have argued previously, the pit lane speed limit goes against the whole point of creating tactical options through the tyre rules. Who wants to make extra pit stops if the pit lane speed limit adds so much of a time penalty to stops?

The two tyre conpound rule is probably a bigger problem right now than any speed limit change could potentially create. Seriously, the rule is well past it's use by date now so we might as well get rid of it to create some more variable strategies. Drop the speed limit with it and suddenly you get a situation where teams have to face a choice between using the faster softer tyres but make more stops with a larger penalty than before against using the slower but more durable tyres for the race.

That would be really good when we were getting the massive drop offs. If you were to remove that rule you could get 1 stoppers (maybe someone would even brave 0 stops!) with hards and others which may be 2 seconds quicker on the soft but may need 3 stops. It would bring changing track temperatures into the equation more than it does now.

You could be on to something here...

I have to agree that the "two compound" rule is flawed, but the problem is that the spread in tyre performance is so wide that it can be a major disincentive to run longer stints - Pirelli have said that they want to cut the time difference to something in the order of 0.6-0.8s per step in compound, so a difference of two compound grades would be about 1.2s a lap (in theory). More than once last season Sauber tried that strategy, but the problem is that the durability of the harder tyres was not enough to compensate for the reduction in grip, making the softer tyres more attractive. I would not be surprised if the elimination of the "two compound" rule resulted in a convergence, rather than a divergence, in strategy if the current performance of the tyres remains as they do now, though balancing the performance of the tyres would not be an easy task...

[eagleash]

Throw into the mix the former habit of running a mix of compounds, at the same time, to suit different circuit characteristics.......now against regulations...

[Wizzie]

The two tyre conpound rule is probably a bigger problem right now than any speed limit change could potentially create. Seriously, the rule is well past it's use by date now so we might as well get rid of it to create some more variable strategies. Drop the speed limit with it and suddenly you get a situation where teams have to face a choice between using the faster softer tyres but make more stops with a larger penalty than before against using the slower but more durable tyres for the race.

That would be really good when we were getting the massive drop offs. If you were to remove that rule you could get 1 stoppers (maybe someone would even brave 0 stops!) with hards and others which may be 2 seconds quicker on the soft but may need 3 stops. It would bring changing track temperatures into the equation more than it does now.

You could be on to something here...

I have to agree that the "two compound" rule is flawed, but the problem is that the spread in tyre performance is so wide that it can be a major disincentive to run longer stints - Pirelli have said that they want to cut the time difference to something in the order of 0.6-0.8s per step in compound, so a difference of two compound grades would be about 1.2s a lap (in theory). More than once last season Sauber tried that strategy, but the problem is that the durability of the harder tyres was not enough to compensate for the reduction in grip, making the softer tyres more attractive. I would not be surprised if the elimination of the "two compound" rule resulted in a convergence, rather than a divergence, in strategy if the current performance of the tyres remains as they do now, though balancing the performance of the tyres would not be an easy task...

But, if the pit lane speed limit was reduced in conjunction with it, it'd become a disincentive to pit more often as there would be a larger time penalty in doing so than there is now.

[eurobrun]

Although a lower speed would make events

I think you accidentally your grammar.

[East Londoner]

Although a lower speed would make events

Doing a Viresh are we? Ripping off other member's posts? Go home spammer!

[Wizzie]

Although a lower speed would make events

Doing a Viresh are we? Ripping off other member's posts? Go home spammer!

Interestingly enough, being human is not a pre-requisite to participate in the Predicament Predictions championship thanks to Viresh

[Wizzie]

Rather than create a new thread, I've decided to post here that the FIA have made some more adjustments to the regulations.

Personally, I don't see a problem with any of them, which is a minor miracle considering it's the FIA