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by **Nuppiz** » 17 Mar 2012, 21:03

Bathplug

If GRRRRRRRRRRRJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJNNNNNNNNN managed an absolutely surprising 3rd, we can only dream of what Räikkönen could've achieved had he not failed...

by **fjackdaw** » 17 Mar 2012, 21:05

Nuppiz wrote:Bathplug

If GRRRRRRRRRRRJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJNNNNNNNNN managed an absolutely surprising 3rd, we can only dream of what Räikkönen could've achieved had he not failed...

What if RG is the better driver?

Website · by **Wizzie** » 17 Mar 2012, 21:06

fjackdaw wrote:
Nuppiz wrote:Bathplug

If GRRRRRRRRRRRJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJNNNNNNNNN managed an absolutely surprising 3rd, we can only dream of what Räikkönen could've achieved had he not failed...

What if RG is the better driver?

Then Raikkonen will go into 2009 mode and Eurobrun will have a heart attack :lol:

by **Pedestrian** » 17 Mar 2012, 21:14

fjackdaw wrote:
Nuppiz wrote:Bathplug

If GRRRRRRRRRRRJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJNNNNNNNNN managed an absolutely surprising 3rd, we can only dream of what Räikkönen could've achieved had he not failed...

What if RG is the better driver?

BURN THE HERETIC!

by **Shadaza** » 17 Mar 2012, 21:19

fjackdaw wrote:
Nuppiz wrote:Bathplug

If GRRRRRRRRRRRJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJNNNNNNNNN managed an absolutely surprising 3rd, we can only dream of what Räikkönen could've achieved had he not failed...

What if RG is the better driver?

Well GRRJJNNNN has looked the better driver all weekend, spent his time away from F1 winning everything he entered and genuinely making a good name for himself.
Raikkonen flat out refused to drive in the wet and complained about the steering. I think I know who is the better driver this weekend.

by **QuickYoda41** » 17 Mar 2012, 21:31

Fun fact for hardcore Kimi-fans: Every time Raikkonen started a race from 17th, he won.

Ok, that every is only 1 time so far, but still. :lol:

by **Paul Hayes** » 17 Mar 2012, 21:32

Good call not to allow the HRTs to race, I think. They looked appalling, which is a shame for them as I thought they'd have a good chance of being ahead of Marussia this year.

by **FullMetalJack** » 17 Mar 2012, 21:46

RRRRMMMMNNNN GGGGRRRRSSSSJJJJNNNN looked particularly good. Unrejectification tomorrow perhaps?

Hopefully Maldonado will score a good result too, I was pleasantly surprised.

by **eurobrun** » 17 Mar 2012, 21:58

Wizzie wrote:
fjackdaw wrote:
Nuppiz wrote:Bathplug

If GRRRRRRRRRRRJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJNNNNNNNNN managed an absolutely surprising 3rd, we can only dream of what Räikkönen could've achieved had he not failed...

What if RG is the better driver?

Then Raikkonen will go into 2009 mode and Eurobrun will have a heart attack

The main thing that annoys me about GGGGRRRRSSSJJJJJNNNN is that most of his fans (or at least his fans on the other F1 forum I used to go to) are whiny James Allens who start QQing every time someone disagrees with them. I never liked him origanally but those people made my dislike of him even stronger.

by **AdrianSutil** » 17 Mar 2012, 22:13

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/ ... 13117.html

Full press conference questions, which apparantly the Sky viewers (boo-hoo) missed out on.

by **Warren Hughes** » 17 Mar 2012, 22:14

eurobrun wrote:The main thing that annoys me about GGGGRRRRSSSJJJJJNNNN is that most of his fans (or at least his fans on the other F1 forum I used to go to) are whiny James Allens who start QQing every time someone disagrees with them. I never liked him origanally but those people made my dislike of him even stronger.

You sound a bit like Captain Hammer was about Kobayashi in late 2009. Although you weren't here then of course.

by **AdrianSutil** » 17 Mar 2012, 22:18

There's a few people on here that are quite biased towards a certain driver. Captain Hammer and Petrov, Peter and Bruno Senna. Even me towards Adrian Sutil. I suppose everyone has their favourites, but some people do go a bit loopy when someone slags their favourite driver off...

And we've all seen the Captain Hammer-Peter arguments :roll:

by **fjackdaw** » 17 Mar 2012, 22:18

Warren Hughes wrote:
eurobrun wrote:The main thing that annoys me about GGGGRRRRSSSJJJJJNNNN is that most of his fans (or at least his fans on the other F1 forum I used to go to) are whiny James Allens who start QQing every time someone disagrees with them. I never liked him origanally but those people made my dislike of him even stronger.

You sound a bit like Captain Hammer was about Kobayashi in late 2009. Although you weren't here then of course.

Yes, give the guy a chance. He's got a third-place start in his first outing in a decent car, quit bitching about him already. What annoys me about these people who decide they dislike a driver no matter what is that they can't find anything positive to say, they just gripe and put the driver and his fans down, no matter how well he's doing. It's always, "Yeah, he may be starting in third, but just you watch, he's going to crash on the first corner". No - all we know at this stage is that he's starting in third. Don't bring your own personal bitterness into play, and then starting beating HIM up with it!

by **fjackdaw** » 17 Mar 2012, 22:19

AdrianSutil wrote:There's a few people on here that are quite biased towards a certain driver. Captain Hammer and Petrov, Peter and Bruno Senna. Even me towards Adrian Sutil. I suppose everyone has their favourites, but some people do go a bit loopy when someone slags their favourite driver off...

And we've all seen the Captain Hammer-Peter arguments

We've also seen some people go a bit loopy when people say nice things about drivers they've decided to hate.

by **Paul Hayes** » 17 Mar 2012, 22:44

AdrianSutil wrote:http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2012/3/13117.html

Full press conference questions, which apparantly the Sky viewers (boo-hoo) missed out on.

I've been watching F1 since 1995, and I don't recall a single occasion where the BBC or ITV have ever shown anything more of the top-three press conference, qualifying or race version, than the initial TV session with James Allen / David Croft / Sid Watkins's son / whoever.

by **Ferrim** » 17 Mar 2012, 23:09

The last time a Senna drove a Williams-Renault in a season opener, he put it on pole but complained about the handling. I find funny Bruno is starting 14th but blaming himself and complimenting the car instead :lol:

It shows you how much the times have changed...

by **tristan1117** » 17 Mar 2012, 23:10

Just watched qualifying. That was a great session; when Schumi was only down by a tenth and Button only 0.04 at the end I jumped off my couch! Looks like the Force Indias and the Saubers may be a bit behind STR as Vergne and Riccairdo were very competent in their first sessions. I predict that they'll all have a tough battle with Williams and perhaps even Caterham for the midfield spots. And on Grosjean, he put the car in third so it's hard to make a case against him. I liked him in GP2 where he had a couple good seasons with Barwa and I liked his Barbazza-style haircut from 2009. Too bad he cut most of it...

by **DonTirri** » 17 Mar 2012, 23:42

My comment on the qualifying?

Well, Crap. Back to sleep after Q1.

by **WaffleCat** » 17 Mar 2012, 23:57

AdrianSutil wrote:There's a few people on here that are quite biased towards a certain driver. Captain Hammer and Petrov, Peter and Bruno Senna. Even me towards Adrian Sutil. I suppose everyone has their favourites, but some people do go a bit loopy when someone slags their favourite driver off...

I've been a Lewis Hamilton fan since he joined F1,so I've been okay with what the press says about him and I also don't hold a grudge against people over the internet.I still have the urge to punch people in the face when they talk shite about him to my face,however.

by **Ataxia** » 18 Mar 2012, 00:13

[quote="AdrianSutil"]There's a few people on here that are quite biased towards a certain driver. Captain Hammer and Petrov, Peter and Bruno Senna. Even me towards Adrian Sutil. I suppose everyone has their favourites, but some people do go a bit loopy when someone slags their favourite driver off...[quote]

Perhaps this forum should be granted the award 'Hardest Forum to Admit Being A Heidfeld Fan Without Fear Of Ridicule (HFTABAHFWFOR)'.

by **Ferrim** » 18 Mar 2012, 00:16

DonTirri wrote:My comment on the qualifying?

Well, Crap. Back to sleep after Q1.

I'm sorry for you that this is not going to be a season of Formula Vettel.

by **AdrianSutil** » 18 Mar 2012, 00:51

Ferrim wrote:
DonTirri wrote:My comment on the qualifying?

Well, Crap. Back to sleep after Q1.

I'm sorry for you that this is not going to be a season of Formula Vettel.

If quali is anything to go by, Vettel will be lucky to win a race this year!

by **Stramala** » 18 Mar 2012, 00:51

Ferrim wrote:My summary of qualifying:

RRRRRMMMMMNNNNN GGGGGRRRRRJJJJJNNNNN!!!!!

RRRRRMMMMMNNNNN GGGGGRRRRRJJJJJNNNNN!!!!!

RRRRRMMMMMNNNNN GGGGGRRRRRJJJJJNNNNN!!!!!

This.

by **DanielPT** » 18 Mar 2012, 01:14

Kimi to win the race tomorrow! You heard it here first!

Seriously, though, if Hamilton manages to keep it from crashing will be a 1-2 for the Maccas. And I am a bit worried that if this is a real gap between them and everyone else that it will 1988 again, but lets wait for China (Malaysia might confirm or not). Oh well, if this is the case then at least we can look forward to a good intra-team battle!

By the way, if people who were saying that at least the Ferrari was good on a one-lap run because it was massively inconsistent during a race trim are right then tomorrow will be a nightmare for them...

by **Ferrim** » 18 Mar 2012, 01:27

DanielPT wrote:
Seriously, though, if Hamilton manages to keep it from crashing will be a 1-2 for the Maccas. And I am a bit worried that if this is a real gap between them and everyone else that it will 1988 again, but lets wait for China (Malaysia might confirm or not). Oh well, if this is the case then at least we can look forward to a good intra-team battle!

Not really comparable... the gap in 1988 was similar to the one there is now between McLaren and... Caterham!

by **CoopsII** » 18 Mar 2012, 01:37

Ferrim wrote:
DonTirri wrote:My comment on the qualifying?
Well, Crap. Back to sleep after Q1.

I'm sorry for you that this is not going to be a season of Formula Vettel.

No doubt he'll be changing his avatar soon because of it.

by **JeremyMcClean** » 18 Mar 2012, 01:48

Holy crap the qualifying was so... Different. No other words to describe it, really. Not sure whether or not to watch the race at 2am or catch the re-run at 3pm.

by **DanielPT** » 18 Mar 2012, 01:49

Ferrim wrote:
DanielPT wrote:
Seriously, though, if Hamilton manages to keep it from crashing will be a 1-2 for the Maccas. And I am a bit worried that if this is a real gap between them and everyone else that it will 1988 again, but lets wait for China (Malaysia might confirm or not). Oh well, if this is the case then at least we can look forward to a good intra-team battle!

Not really comparable... the gap in 1988 was similar to the one there is now between McLaren and... Caterham!

True, but this gap is somewhat similar to what Red Bull had last year at the first race and look what that turned out. Cars are much more reliable these days and Hamilton/Button are an exceptional pair of drivers. I meant that year because it was a year in where both Mclaren drivers dominated the proceedings. But then, we are long overdue another year like that.

by **Wallio** » 18 Mar 2012, 02:04

The main thing that annoys me about GGGGRRRRSSSJJJJJNNNN is that most of his fans (or at least his fans on the other F1 forum I used to go to) are whiny James Allens who start QQing every time someone disagrees with them. I never liked him origanally but those people made my dislike of him even stronger.[/quote][/quote][/quote]

Thats the well I felt about Danica Patrick and Lewis Hamilton. Didn't give a crap about him either way at first, but couldn't take his fans. The fact that we in the US get stuck with the SpeedTV crew, who are HUGE Hamilton fanbois, (they refered to him in race, as the "Master of Overtaking" more than once) completely put me off. Danica's fans first annoyed me, "you only say she finished 20th because she's a girl and you're insecure!" Uh, no, I said it because she actually finished 20th.

Back on topic, so glad HRT is not being allowed to race. I know it goes agaist the spirit of this site, but I hate it when they don't enforce te 107% rule. Too many "Exceptions". If you don't go 107% you don't race, period. I don't care who you are. If you're not going to enforce it, don't have it. Also way to go Marussia! I think I have a new back marker to root for instead of Catheram. Also saw an interview where Vettel claims he would have been higher if he hadn't made a mistake in S1 of his final lap. As Kimi would say "wewillsee".

by **Nuppiz** » 18 Mar 2012, 02:08

Ferrim wrote:
DonTirri wrote:My comment on the qualifying?

Well, Crap. Back to sleep after Q1.

I'm sorry for you that this is not going to be a season of Formula Vettel.

I think he meant the fact that both Finns were out after Q1, though.

by **Ferrim** » 18 Mar 2012, 02:15

Mmmmm, you've got a point there, Nuppiz. I probably left myself to get carried away by certain flame wars last season.

Going back to the man of the day... I know this is old, but I can't resist bringing it again: http://gobarbra.com/hit/new-458c435a5ad ... dd75ac4ca6 :lol:

by **Ferrim** » 18 Mar 2012, 02:50

DanielPT wrote:
Ferrim wrote:
DanielPT wrote:
Seriously, though, if Hamilton manages to keep it from crashing will be a 1-2 for the Maccas. And I am a bit worried that if this is a real gap between them and everyone else that it will 1988 again, but lets wait for China (Malaysia might confirm or not). Oh well, if this is the case then at least we can look forward to a good intra-team battle!

Not really comparable... the gap in 1988 was similar to the one there is now between McLaren and... Caterham!

True, but this gap is somewhat similar to what Red Bull had last year at the first race and look what that turned out. Cars are much more reliable these days and Hamilton/Button are an exceptional pair of drivers. I meant that year because it was a year in where both Mclaren drivers dominated the proceedings. But then, we are long overdue another year like that.

Sorry to disagree, but last year Vettel had a 0.8 secs gap, nothing comparable to what we've seen today relatively to Lotus and Mercedes. And I'm convinced Red Bull's true pace is not what we've seen today.

by **DanielPT** » 18 Mar 2012, 03:43

Ferrim wrote:
DanielPT wrote:True, but this gap is somewhat similar to what Red Bull had last year at the first race and look what that turned out. Cars are much more reliable these days and Hamilton/Button are an exceptional pair of drivers. I meant that year because it was a year in where both Mclaren drivers dominated the proceedings. But then, we are long overdue another year like that.

Sorry to disagree, but last year Vettel had a 0.8 secs gap, nothing comparable to what we've seen today relatively to Lotus and Mercedes. And I'm convinced Red Bull's true pace is not what we've seen today.

You are certainly free to disagree. And I will do likewise. Hamilton and Button had 0.7 secs gap (one . less) to Red Bull today. And Mercedes was famous last year for being better qualifier than racer. Lotus, will most likely fade in the development battle. But we will see. Those are just my fears speaking. About Red Bull not showing true pace, it is a bit harder to believe on that since if we go back to read last year reports from most websites, we get the feeling that we never saw Red Bull true pace despite being caught by McLaren... They may become better in race but here too if one goes with Red Bull last year trend of being better qualifying, it looks unlikely. Also, changing exhaust configuration to imitate other teams in the last couple days of testing seemed odd at the time. Again, if today reflects the true order then we have our answer to why they rushed it.

by **Ferrim** » 18 Mar 2012, 04:32

Of course I don't think they were sandbagging, but that they've missed some testing time after all. They had some problems at Barcelona, and rain on Friday probably hasn't helped. Given that Webber has been 0.7 down without a running KERS and Vettel has made a mistake in his final lap, compounded with said problems, I believe they will be fighting at the front pretty soon.

Combined qualifying laps (taking the best three sectors of each driver):

1. Hamilton 1:24.922
2. Button 1:25.074
3. Grosjean 1:25.274
4. Schumacher 1:25.314
5. Rosberg 1:25.429
6. Vettel 1:25.470
7. Webber 1:25.590
8. Maldonado 1:25.779
9. Kobayashi 1:26.139
10. Hulkenberg 1:26.289
11. Ricciardo 1:26.319
12. Alonso 1:26.365
13. Vergne 1:26.420
14. Pérez 1:26.596
15. Senna 1:26.612
16. Di Resta 1:26.920
17. Räikkönen 1:27.107
18. Massa 1:27.347
19. Kovalainen 1:28.505
20. Petrov 1:28.959
21. Glock 1:30.757
22. Pic 1:31.670
23. De la Rosa 1:33.213
24. Karthikeyan 1:33.643

by **DonTirri** » 18 Mar 2012, 05:07

Nuppiz wrote:
Ferrim wrote:I'm sorry for you that this is not going to be a season of Formula Vettel.

I think he meant the fact that both Finns were out after Q1, though.

Exactly. I had slept for only 5 hours anyway (I hate working late) so after Kimi and Heikki both went out I decided "Sod it, back to bed"
And yes, I'll be changing my avatar back to Kimi once I get around to it, Kimi has been my favorite driver since the day Häkkinen retired.
I supported Vettel these two years because well, Kimi wasn't around

He's still no.2 though.

by **sswishbone** » 18 Mar 2012, 05:10

Raikonnen's failure was a diappointment but remember Webber at China last year

by **LionZoo** » 18 Mar 2012, 05:48

Some of my observations:

1) GRRRJJJNNNNN's pace wasn't out of nowhere. He has been up there all weekend. Of course probably nobody, including me, believed that he could keep it up in qualifying. Well, he showed up.

2) What's been lost in the hoopla is that Mercedes seems to have a genuinely fast car. GRJN had a great lap, but Schumi was only 0.03 slower. There's life in the old man yet.

3) The Saubers disappointed in Q2. After being so fast in Q1, I don't know where they went.

4) Life is sucking for the HRT drivers. It's not even like they're trying to get in the way. What's happening is that the cars are so slow that even when they have a seemingly space gap to the car behind (say 5 car lengths), their apex speed and exit means that gap is gobbled up through the corner and on exit they're suddenly blocking the car in front. It's actually unsafe and I'm glad they won't be racing tomorrow. The speed difference between the HRTs and the others cars in the corners is truly amazing. The car also looks like it's trying to kill its drivers.

by **JeremyMcClean** » 18 Mar 2012, 06:04

sswishbone wrote:Raikonnen's failure was a diappointment but remember Webber at China last year

Difference is, though, Webber didn't take a two-year break from F1 before flogging out in Q1...

Hopefully Raikkonen will recover. Otherwise Heidfeldmania will return...

by **IdeFan** » 18 Mar 2012, 07:41

Really happy with GRRRSSJNNN's qualifying, I hope he can deliver in the race, mostly because pre season a lot of people were saying he shouldn't have been there and that he blew his chance in 2009. IMO RRRRMMMMNNNN did exactly what he needed to do in his "wilderness years" by stepping down to Auto GP and then GP2 and winning everything, I hope he can keep this level of performance up and prove his doubters wrong.

Bit of a cockup for Kimi, but these things happen, he has always been one of the better racers and I'm hoping for some fireworks tomorrow.

Website · by **Wizzie** » 18 Mar 2012, 11:52

fjackdaw wrote:
Yes, give the guy a chance. He's got a third-place start in his first outing in a decent car, quit bitching about him already. What annoys me about these people who decide they dislike a driver no matter what is that they can't find anything positive to say, they just gripe and put the driver and his fans down, no matter how well he's doing. It's always, "Yeah, he may be starting in third, but just you watch, he's going to crash on the first corner".

Funnily enough that's almost exactly how I feel about Jules Bianchi :lol:

Then again, I find it incredibly difficult to rate anyone that gets beaten by eternal GP2 relic Luca Filippi

And before I forget I have a message for whoever's the big guy upstairs:

Please strike down the entire ONE Commentary team with lightning. I can't take it anymore and neither can the rest of Australia.

Yours sincerely, Wizzie

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