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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby East Londoner » 16 Mar 2012, 09:22

And 17 cars retired in a three lap window! :o
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Nuppiz » 16 Mar 2012, 09:34

Trust me, once you've played GPM2 long enough, you'll encounter random results like those above as well. :lol:

I believe this here is probably the weirdest bug that I've ever come across:
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Shadaza » 17 Mar 2012, 19:52

Welcome to the Brave New World.

With a forced ban of testing teams enter the first race of the season on a blank canvas, the fact that we begin at a street circuit, in the rain does little to reveal a full pecking order.

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As it stands Ferrari take first blood, by an impressive margin. Alonso and Renault must be happy with 3rd place on the grid just ahead of Michael Schumacher and the two Williams. The midfield looks close with BAR top at the moment whilst the two new teams are close to each other but a fair distance off the back of Toyota. Bernoldi DNQ's by 0.2s.

The race is 58 laps long and begins in wet conditions. You have until 10pm GMT to decide on a pit strategy, also I am willing to put dry set ups on cars if anyone wants to take that gamble. (You will all need at least 2 stops)

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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Wizzie » 17 Mar 2012, 19:59

And my point on drivers has been proved. Schumacher costs almost three times as much as my drivers combined and he only beat them by a tenth :lol:
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby AdrianSutil » 17 Mar 2012, 20:30

Both drivers qualify, just about for Sutil, so I'm delighted.

Race strategy: Adrian Sutil to race a two-stop strategy, with a dry set-up. Felipe Massa to run a one-stop race, with a wet set-up.
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Wizzie » 17 Mar 2012, 20:35

Oh and before I forget both Williamses will run two-stop strategies with dry setups. Fisichella will run one lap longer than Button for the first two stints

EDIT: Having just remembered how GPM2 works when it comes to weather, I'll start both cars with wet setups instead.
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby the Masked Lapwing » 17 Mar 2012, 20:42

Both of Jaguar's drivers will run two-stoppers, but I'll split the setups, Badoer on a dry one, Sato on a wet one. Badoer will pit first for both stops.
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Wizzie » 17 Mar 2012, 20:44

Shadaza wrote:The race is 58 laps long and begins in wet conditions. You have until 10pm GMT to decide on a pit strategy, also I am willing to put dry set ups on cars if anyone wants to take that gamble. (You will all need at least 2 stops)


Actually, from memory it's possible to change the fuel tank size between qualifying and the race. Not that anyone would ever pick the 50% fuel tank size because it's not quite large enough to run the one-stopper :lol:
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby eurobrun » 17 Mar 2012, 21:37

Both Renaults will run two stop strategies with wet setups.
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby The Lukas » 17 Mar 2012, 21:56

Both Ansimov's will run two stop strategies with wet setups
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Ferrim » 17 Mar 2012, 22:16

I think the option of running 1 stops should be given... of course it may not be possible if you haven't taken spares to the race track IIRC.
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby FMecha » 17 Mar 2012, 22:23

Standard wet, two-stop setup. That's all. :)
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Stramala » 18 Mar 2012, 00:11

Ferrim wrote:I think the option of running 1 stops should be given... of course it may not be possible if you haven't taken spares to the race track IIRC.

You can swap your fuel tank for 60% size I think. But you'll comprimise car performance slightly as a result.

Minardi will gamble and put Hakkinen on a dry set-up two stopper. And set the sliders to slightly aggressive in all areas if that's allowed :)
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Shadaza » 18 Mar 2012, 00:15

kostas22 wrote: And set the sliders to slightly aggressive in all areas if that's allowed :)


No that isn't allowed, I have enough to manage as it is, besides those sliders are hax any way :)
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby East Londoner » 18 Mar 2012, 02:51

BAR will take a risk, with a dry set-up 2 stopper for Webber, and a wet set-up 2 stopper for Heidfeld.
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Klon » 18 Mar 2012, 04:27

Shadaza wrote:You have until 10pm GMT to decide on a pit strategy, also I am willing to put dry set ups on cars if anyone wants to take that gamble. (You will all need at least 2 stops)


What? Well, then next time give a bigger tank. On the other hand, it's propably better that way for fairness and all that idealistic stuff, so ignore me. :lol:

Well, wet setup for both and a three stopper for Ralf Schumacher and a two stopper for Rubens Barrichello.
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Shadaza » 18 Mar 2012, 05:47

Klon wrote:
Shadaza wrote:You have until 10pm GMT to decide on a pit strategy, also I am willing to put dry set ups on cars if anyone wants to take that gamble. (You will all need at least 2 stops)


What? Well, then next time give a bigger tank. On the other hand, it's propably better that way for fairness and all that idealistic stuff, so ignore me. :lol:

Well, wet setup for both and a three stopper for Ralf Schumacher and a two stopper for Rubens Barrichello.


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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Shadaza » 18 Mar 2012, 09:01

The race has finished, I will post the results following the real Australian Grand Prix tomorrow. All I can say is there were 11 finishers and that the rain only got worse in the grand prix. There were "only" 5 engine failures this time, however I think that will be little consolation to the affected teams.

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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Stramala » 18 Mar 2012, 09:26

Shadaza wrote:All I can say is there were 11 finishers and that the rain only got worse in the grand prix.

I don't care what the results are then, Hakkinen obviously retired or finished outside the Top 10 :P
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Klon » 18 Mar 2012, 10:44

Shadaza wrote:We also have 1 un-rejectification :D


Franck Montagny, go! :lol:
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby AdrianSutil » 18 Mar 2012, 10:55

Klon wrote:
Shadaza wrote:We also have 1 un-rejectification :D


Franck Montagny, go! :lol:

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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Shadaza » 18 Mar 2012, 23:08

And it's a 1-2 for Williams! Oh I am sorry that was the mock race, the results of the actual race are as follows. :twisted:


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Well those 5 engine failures were significant! The top 5 cars on track all dropping out within 2 laps!

1- Jean Alesi, Renault
Even Alesi is surprised with the manor of his 2nd ever win, in truth he wasn't even in the same league as Alonso, however he managed to hold Trulli off for the entire race having the same pit strategy as the Italian it was a straight fight. Alesi overtook Michael Schumacher for what turned out to be the race victory.

2- Jarno Trulli, McLaren
Shading Alesi all race turned out to be a 2nd place eventually, he finished 3 seconds behind Alesi after fending off his team mate at the end after a scrap that saw them swap positions twice through traffic.

3- Michael Schumacher, McLaren
Michael Schumacher began the race seemingly in good form, he had established a reasonable lead over the two Williams cars, though he was slower then Alonso and the Ferraris. However his three stop strategy left him vulnerable and following his final pitstop he was powerless to prevent Alesi and Trulli from overtaking, he finished the race 1 second behind Trulli in a race he should of won considering the retirements.

4- Luca Badoer, Jaguar
What a surprise result for Badoer and the Jaguar team, having decided to gamble on a dry set-up when in-fact the rain only got worse hurt Badoer initially as he dropped a long way behind the top 9, however as the race progressed his pace stabalised and in the end he was half a lap ahead of 5th, though still a lap down on the leaders. Unrejectification and first points!

5- Mark Webber, BAR
Webber was the BAR assigned the dry setup, so it is no surprise he could not keep up with the pace of his team mate, however by keeping it consistent and on the road he finishes a credible 5th place.

6- Pedro de la Rosa, Ansimov
A superb race, among the finishes driver of the day, as the race progressed de la Rosa made metronomic progress up the grid, he was already ahead of Montagny and Panis before they retired and the Spaniard was even gaining on Webber and Badoer come the race end.

7- Alex Wurz, Sauber
A dissapointing race for the Sauber team in general, they just seemed to lack pace when fuel was in the car, a lucky 2 points for Wurz.

8-HWNSNBM, Jordan
It was clear that a 3 stop strategy was the wrong choice for Melbourne, though despite this HWNSNBM'S pace wasn't all that bad, he scrapes the final point.

9-Antonio Pizzonia, Ansimov
Ansimov can be happy both cars finished, Pizzonia did not have the same pace as de la Rosa but he was hounding HWNSBNM for that final point.

10- Felipe Massa, Arrows
The only driver to do a one stop strategy, he began the race, expectedly slow but as the fuel lessened it came to him, Massa was running ahead of Montagny when he retired, Arrows have potential.

11-Kimi Raikkonen, Sauber
What on Earth happened here? Raikkonen's pace was awful the entire race, his 3 stop strategy can't explain how he ended up being lapped twice by an Arrows? Promising qualifying pace turned to nothing. ROTR.

DNF- Ralf Schumacher, Ferrari
This should have been Ralf's race, after a good get away and setting a string of fastest laps (lap 12 was fastest lap of race then it rained harder.) Ralf was in command, though his first pit stop was delayed and his pace after the first stop was very rocky and he dropped to 3rd, following that he ran off in to the distance until his engine exploded, to rub salt in the wounds the chassis had to be replaced.

DNF- Fernando Alonso, Renault
In my mind the driver of the race, as the race started despite being on heavy fuel he pulled away from Michael Schumacher and was even challenging the Ferraris, having lead at one point, he was having an epic scrap with Barrichello only for engine failure to strike.

DNF- Jenson Button, Williams
Button had the measure over Fisichella all race though he was nowhere near Alonso. Engine Blow out robbed victory chance.

DNF- Rubens Barrichello, Ferrari
Barrichello had an eventful race, having jumped the start he took a drive through and found himself in 4th. He soon leapfrogged the McLaren of Schumacher and was in a race long battle with Alonso, he had just beaten the Spaniard when his engine blew up.

DNF- Giancarlo Fisichella, Williams
Played second fiddle to Button all race, had the measure of the chasing Alesi and Trulli but unfortunately his engine stopped working.

DNF- Nick Heidfeld, BAR
Disappointing for the team, Heidfeld had pace and for the first stint was right behind Alesi and Trulli before dropping back a little bit, he span off in the pouring rain losing what would of been a 4th place at least.

DNF- Frank Montagny, Jordan
His gearbox packed in but he was nowhere all race even coming under pressure from Massa.

DNF- Olivier Panis, Toyota
Was battling Pizzonia's Ansimov when he had an explosive tire blow out, his car was absolutely wrecked and Panis was lucky to emerge unhurt.

DNF- Adrian Sutil, Arrows
Sutil was only ever using this race as a learning experience, he was just about battling with Raikkonen in last place when his car ground to a halt.

DNF- Takuma Sato, Jaguar
What could of been for Sato, the Jaguar that kept the wet set-up retired before the first wave of pit stops.

DNF- Mika Hakkinen, Minardi
A miserable weekend for Minardi, they started to pack up with less then 10% of the race run.

DNF- Juan Montoya, Toyota
Not the start to the F1 season the Columbian was looking for.

Drivers of the race:

1-Fernando Alonso, Quick all weekend, heartbreaking engine failure
2-Pedro de la Rosa, Very impressive pace in the Ansimov.
3-Luca Badoer, did well to hold of wet set up cars, in the end he was able to distance himself from them and unrectification followed.

Rejects of the Race:

1-Engines, 'nuf said.
2-Raikkonen, Hopless race pace!
3-Heidfeld, only spinner loses important 4th place!

Championship Tables:

1-Alesi 10
2-Trulli 8
3-M.Schumacher 6
4-Badoer 5
5-Webber 4
6-de la Rosa 3
7-Wurz 2
8-HWNSNBM 1

1.McLaren Mercedes 14
2.Renault 10
3.Jaguar Ford 5
4.BAR Honda 4
5.Ansimov Hart 3
7.Sauber Petronas 2
8.Jordan Ferrari 1

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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Shadaza » 19 Mar 2012, 01:02

Williams: Pepsi and HSBC both want to sponsor your car and you have now got level 1 semi automatic gears. $17.303 Million (good thing you have those sponsors!)
Ferrari: $18.248 Million
McLaren: 14.080 Milion (even with a 2-3 and no other expenditure they still lose 1 million!)
Renault: 18.226 Million
BAR:Mild Seven and Elf are now want to sponsor your car. 14.196 Million
Sauber: 14.175 Million
Jaguar: You now have Semi Automatic Gears 19.197 Million
Toyota: Panasonic want to sponsor you, 18.124 Million
Jordan:14.282 Million
Minardi:17.836 Million
Arrows:14.460 Million
Ansimov: O2 want to sponsor your team, 14.020 Million

So far Williams have made the most Financial loss and Arrows the least. Jaguar is now the richest team in F1 ^^.
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby tristan1117 » 19 Mar 2012, 01:18

Is there anything (research-wise) that I have forgotten to update? Unfortunately, Raikkonen taking ROTR will not get Sauber any sponsors so will put 100% of our efforts on getting the Petronas deal.
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Ferrim » 19 Mar 2012, 02:59

It looks like some cars can't handle their engines. Surprisingly, they aren't the ones I was expecting.
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby andrew » 19 Mar 2012, 05:38

Looks like a very interesting game (may join)
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Wizzie » 19 Mar 2012, 06:30

I'll get back to you later this afternoon on sponsors but can you split it to 30% Pepsi, 30% HSBC and the rest for a five star sponsor?
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Shadaza » 19 Mar 2012, 06:36

Wizzie wrote:I'll get back to you later this afternoon on sponsors but can you split it to 30% Pepsi, 30% HSBC and the rest for a five star sponsor?


I can, for now I have put it all on Intel. No rush though.
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Shadaza » 19 Mar 2012, 06:57

andrew wrote:Looks like a very interesting game (may join)


Welcome to the Forums, looks like you might manage to snag McLaren :D
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Stramala » 19 Mar 2012, 07:00

Minardi is going to try and steal BAR's gearbox blueprints before the next race :D
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby eurobrun » 19 Mar 2012, 07:04

Alesi winning. Alonso was fast until his car failed.

Looks like Renault is fast.
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Wizzie » 19 Mar 2012, 07:05

Can I just say right now that anyone who is even remotely willing to take over the McLaren team will be thoroughly screwed by year's end :lol:

Now that I'm on a computer rather than the iPad, Williams would like to ask what part they're developing at the workshop since they stole BAR's ECU and do the following:

Nick whatever part is best from BAR out of Sidepods, Airbox and Suspension (i.e whatever gives Williams the biggest boost)
Explore the options of starting a technical partnership with Minardi (We'll help you guys out by giving you our Semi-Automatic Gears and Traction Control in exchange for some dough)
Develop Semi-Automatic gears all the way up to about level 4 or 5 (Depending on the level of the ECU)
Start development on Traction Control (50/50 split between Gearbox and TC)
Extend all the contracts of the department heads by two years
Sign Pepsi on spots A, G, N, R and T
Sign HSBC on spots U, V, B, H, K
Sign all the merchandising on the BOTTOM half of the merchandising page
Request what the length of Briscoe's contract is and whether there are any available paydrivers on the market
Have Don Rennis call all the other team owners muppets (Except Kostas) :lol:
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Stramala » 19 Mar 2012, 07:11

Wizzie wrote:Can I just say right now that anyone who is even remotely willing to take over the McLaren team will be thoroughly screwed by year's end :lol:

Now that I'm on a computer rather than the iPad, Williams would like to ask what part they're developing at the workshop since they stole BAR's ECU and do the following:

Nick whatever part is best from BAR out of Sidepods, Airbox and Suspension (i.e whatever gives Williams the biggest boost)
Explore the options of starting a technical partnership with Minardi (We'll help you guys out by giving you our Semi-Automatic Gears and Traction Control in exchange for some dough)
Develop Semi-Automatic gears all the way up to about level 4 or 5 (Depending on the level of the ECU)
Start development on Traction Control (50/50 split between Gearbox and TC)
Extend all the contracts of the department heads by two years
Sign Pepsi on spots A, G, N, R and T
Sign HSBC on spots U, V, B, H, K
Sign all the merchandising on the BOTTOM half of the merchandising page
Request what the length of Briscoe's contract is and whether there are any available paydrivers on the market
Have Don Rennis call all the other team owners muppets (Except Kostas) :lol:


Minardi is interested in this proposed technical partnership. What are you looking for in return?
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Shadaza » 19 Mar 2012, 07:22

kostas22 wrote:Minardi is going to try and steal BAR's gearbox blueprints before the next race :D


Unfortunately you are unsuccessful.

Wizzie wrote:Can I just say right now that anyone who is even remotely willing to take over the McLaren team will be thoroughly screwed by year's end :lol:

Williams would like to ask what part they're developing at the workshop since they stole BAR's ECU and do the following:

Nick whatever part is best from BAR out of Sidepods, Airbox and Suspension (i.e whatever gives Williams the biggest boost)
Explore the options of starting a technical partnership with Minardi (We'll help you guys out by giving you our Semi-Automatic Gears and Traction Control in exchange for some dough)
Develop Semi-Automatic gears all the way up to about level 4 or 5 (Depending on the level of the ECU)
Start development on Traction Control (50/50 split between Gearbox and TC)
Extend all the contracts of the department heads by two years
Sign Pepsi on spots A, G, N, R and T
Sign HSBC on spots U, V, B, H, K
Sign all the merchandising on the BOTTOM half of the merchandising page
Request what the length of Briscoe's contract is and whether there are any available paydrivers on the market
Have Don Rennis call all the other team owners muppets (Except Kostas) :lol:



Unfortunatly you are unable to breach BAR (what do you two have against the team!?) Briscoe is signed up until the end of the season, and ALex Yoong, Tarso Marques, Alex Yoong and Gaston Mazzacane are all available.

Everything else is done. In terms of no parts Williams are not developing anything.
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Shadaza » 19 Mar 2012, 07:25

I wonder if it is possible to customise the game in progress with more then 1 human team, at the moment it is not, but could it be modded so I could? It would make things so much easier.

As for compensation for Minardi, I only have the ability to plus a minimum of 5 million, develop ALL driver aids to level 1 or develope the next part for everything, all of which are massive advantages!
I guess if I sacked Bernoldi and gave you the 5 million it would equal a net gain of 3 million and give you a free choice of driver, that doesn't seem so bad.
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Stramala » 19 Mar 2012, 07:50

Shadaza wrote:I wonder if it is possible to customise the game in progress with more then 1 human team, at the moment it is not, but could it be modded so I could? It would make things so much easier.

As for compensation for Minardi, I only have the ability to plus a minimum of 5 million, develop ALL driver aids to level 1 or develope the next part for everything, all of which are massive advantages!
I guess if I sacked Bernoldi and gave you the 5 million it would equal a net gain of 3 million and give you a free choice of driver, that doesn't seem so bad.

I guess we could hire Mazzacane as a replacement for Bernoldi with your solution. That it shall be!
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Wizzie » 19 Mar 2012, 18:04

Since both Minardi and Williams can run level 5 driver aids thanks to nicking BAR's Engine Management Units, Williams is offering both their semi-automatic gearbox and traction control technologies to Minardi in exchange of $75 000 for the first lever of each and an additional $15 000 for every level after that. We are open to negotiation in terms of prices.

And before I forget, Williams will like to know what level each of its internal and external components are before choosing which part to upgrade.
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby East Londoner » 19 Mar 2012, 18:25

I'll sign Mild Seven to spots A, G, K, N, R and T, and Elf on spots U, V, B, H and C.

BAR would also like to infiltrate McLaren, to take whichever is the best part on their car :twisted:
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Stramala » 19 Mar 2012, 19:08

Wizzie wrote:Since both Minardi and Williams can run level 5 driver aids thanks to nicking BAR's Engine Management Units, Williams is offering both their semi-automatic gearbox and traction control technologies to Minardi in exchange of $75 000 for the first lever of each and an additional $15 000 for every level after that. We are open to negotiation in terms of prices.

Minardi offers to pay a $50 000 opening fee for the first level of each driver aid, and $12 500 per level after that.
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Re: GPM2, May the best manager win!

Postby Wizzie » 19 Mar 2012, 19:14

kostas22 wrote:
Wizzie wrote:Since both Minardi and Williams can run level 5 driver aids thanks to nicking BAR's Engine Management Units, Williams is offering both their semi-automatic gearbox and traction control technologies to Minardi in exchange of $75 000 for the first lever of each and an additional $15 000 for every level after that. We are open to negotiation in terms of prices.

Minardi offers to pay a $50 000 opening fee for the first level of each driver aid, and $12 500 per level after that.


Sounds reasonable to me. It's a deal :D
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