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Re: The 2012 predictions thread.

Postby DanielPT » 08 Mar 2012, 21:41

ibsey wrote:Haven't been following pre-season much this year. Thought it would be a nice change for this year, to avoid all the teams usual preseaon hype & PR speak & just watch the 1st race with as little idea as possible of which teams did what in pre-season testing etc. Hopefully making the first race even more exicting & suprising than other years.

So any predictions I make will purely be a guess.

However I will say that I wish Sauber to have a good season this year. I think they do deserve it, given the way they quitely just get on with the business of F1, remaining committed to it despite limited budgets / resources, with little in the way of results to show for their efforts.


I didn't noticed as much hype this year as last year. People are still scared that this will turnout yet another Red Bull walkover year. So they are keen to avoid hyping for the moment. If McLaren scores a 1-2 in Melbourne expect hype and Lewisteria in full motion...
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Re: The 2012 predictions thread.

Postby Ed24 » 09 Mar 2012, 00:15

I agree that the hype is lower in 2012, but I think that is natural as there was much more excitement to build on from the end of 2010 than from the end of last year to this year.

I think Ferrari isn't looking too bad really. You have to remember that their intentions were to dominate and be number 1, so even if they stay as team #3, they would be disappointed, hence some of their negative press comments. I think they have a lot of potential in the car and will win multiple races in 2012, probably more in the 2nd half of the year. Bahrain's always been strong for both the team and its drivers (Alonso and Massa have won 5/7 of the races there), so that could be the team's first chance for a victory.

Also, if the weather on the East Coast of Australia is anything to go by recently, my most certain prediction for Melbourne is rain at some point.
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Re: The 2012 predictions thread.

Postby eurobrun » 17 Mar 2012, 11:15

Drivers order predictions:

1. Vettel
2. Button
3. Hamilton
4. Webber
5. Alonso
6. Rosberg
7. Raikkonen
8. Massa
9. Schumacher
10. Kobayashi
11. Hulkenberg
12. Perez
13. GGGRRRSSJJJNNN
14. Riccardo
15. Vernge
16. Senna
17. Di Resta (misses a few races due to injury)
18. Bianchi (replaces Di Resta0
19. Maldonaldo
20. Kovalinen
21. Petrov
22. Glock
23. De La Rosa
24. Marussia #2
25. Karthikayen's replacement
26. Karthikayen

Teams:
1. Red Bull
2. Mclaren
3. Ferrari
4. Mercedes
5. Group Bahar
6. Sauber
7. Toro Rosso
8. Force India
9. Williams
10. Catreham
11. Marussia
12. HRT
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Re: The 2012 predictions thread.

Postby JeremyMcClean » 17 Mar 2012, 12:37

eurobrun wrote:17. Di Resta (misses a few races due to injury)


Now why are you putting in that dark prediction??? :?
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Re: The 2012 predictions thread.

Postby eurobrun » 17 Mar 2012, 12:57

JeremyMcClean wrote:
eurobrun wrote:17. Di Resta (misses a few races due to injury)


Now why are you putting in that dark prediction??? :?


I hope that I'm wrong but I have a bad feeling that someone will get injured. (But luckily not that severely)
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Re: The 2012 predictions thread.

Postby Shizuka » 17 Mar 2012, 18:42

DanielPT wrote:If McLaren scores a 1-2 in Melbourne expect hype and Lewisteria in full motion...


Okay, where exactly DID that sentence come from? :shock: We might be able to see this tomorrow...
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Re: The 2012 predictions thread.

Postby jackanderton » 17 Mar 2012, 18:55

The hype to begin with was due to his phenomenal early success resulting in two title challenges, beating the world champion in his first season and winning one World Driver's Championship. Fair enough, but yes it was over the top due to him being British and the home boy is destined to get the hype. It was way over the top.

But due to bad cars and Lewis' inconsistency, and fairly dislikable frosty personality a lot of that goodwill has long gone. Add to the mix that Jenson Button has come to the fore as a genuine threat and at the peak of his talent. And is British. NOW, if you ask nearly every British-supporting F1 fan who they want to win, the answer is Jenson Button, but they wouldn't mind if Lewis won because y'know, Britannia and all that. So much for your 'hype'.
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Re: The 2012 predictions thread.

Postby Pointrox » 17 Mar 2012, 19:27

HRT will get rid of Karthikeyan after his antics and Liuzzi will take his place. Fact.
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Re: The 2012 predictions thread.

Postby Pedestrian » 18 Mar 2012, 23:35

Pedestrian wrote:I expect improvements from Willaims, Lotus and maybe McLaren.

Hehe! The season has barely started and it allready looks like I was right about these 3 improving :D
Maybe I should start making bets.
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Re: The 2012 predictions thread.

Postby IdeFan » 19 Mar 2012, 00:12

jackanderton wrote:The hype to begin with was due to his phenomenal early success resulting in two title challenges, beating the world champion in his first season and winning one World Driver's Championship. Fair enough, but yes it was over the top due to him being British and the home boy is destined to get the hype. It was way over the top.

But due to bad cars and Lewis' inconsistency, and fairly dislikable frosty personality a lot of that goodwill has long gone. Add to the mix that Jenson Button has come to the fore as a genuine threat and at the peak of his talent. And is British. NOW, if you ask nearly every British-supporting F1 fan who they want to win, the answer is Jenson Button, but they wouldn't mind if Lewis won because y'know, Britannia and all that. So much for your 'hype'.


While I personally respect and support Button more than Hamilton these days, I still get the feeling that Lewis has more popular support in Britain. I work at a race track and note that if someone turns up wearing any F1 merchandise, its invariably McLaren (of course) and usually Hamilton. At Spa last year I noticed that if someone was wearing a McLaren cap it would usually say Lewis on the side, and if they had a flag or a banner it would say "Go Lewis" or "Go Lewis and Jenson" but I don't recall seeing one with just "Go Jenson".

I started working at Thruxton in 2006 so I only have one year to go on, but IIRC in '06 while you would of course see a lot of Button/BAR/Honda merchandise, but you would also get a lot of Ferrari, Renault, McLaren or Williams gear too, and all that changed almost overnight at the 2007 Australian GP. LIke him or loath him, the British media (with a lot of help from the McLaren, Vodafone and Santander marketing departments) have done a far better job of hyping up and selling Lewis Hamilton than they ever did with Jenson, and that continues to this day.

I find that asking my mum is a useful barometer for how the "lay person" in Britain perceives and supports F1, and she still picks Lewis every time, telling her the result this morning she was more disappointed that Hamilton only came third than she was happy that Button won.

I think Button needs to spend a lot more time beating Hamilton before he supplants him as Britains favourite, right now when Jenson beats Lewis the reaction is still "Lewis screwed up" instead of "Button was better".
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Re: The 2012 predictions thread.

Postby dr-baker » 19 Mar 2012, 01:07

Well, obviously I not a "lay person" but I have been a Button supporter since 1999 (F3)/ 2000, because he was a Williams drivier and British, plus Damon Hill had just retired and I needed someone new to switch my alligence to. Glad he won today. Let's see what happens with the media if Lewis gets beaten this year by Jenson (assuming they'll be 1-2 in the championship...).
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