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by **Shadaza** » 17 Apr 2012, 08:31

can I have the engines rebaged as Mercedes, and added as a sponsor logo to the car? thanks.

by **Nuppiz** » 17 Apr 2012, 08:32

This wrote:GTI would - though - liked their engines re-branded as Trabant

As you wish

Shadaza wrote:can I have the engines rebaged as Mercedes, and added as a sponsor logo to the car? thanks.

Alright, I'll rework the livery in a minute.

by **Nuppiz** » 17 Apr 2012, 08:51

And here it is:

by **the Masked Lapwing** » 17 Apr 2012, 09:10

ZimSport will use Judds rebadged as Holdens, with Bridgestone tyres. The livery will be the same, although maybe add Brisgestone logos onto the front wing.

Website · by **Wizzie** » 17 Apr 2012, 10:02

MRT will use the Zyteks rebadged as BMWs and use Michelin tyres for 2015

by **Nuppiz** » 18 Apr 2012, 00:03

the Masked Lapwing wrote:ZimSport will use Judds rebadged as Holdens, with Bridgestone tyres. The livery will be the same, although maybe add Brisgestone logos onto the front wing.

That snatches the last Judd engine slot, unless some team who currently uses Judds decides to use Zyteks instead (selections are open until the start of the season). Also, Bridgestone is now supplying the maximum three teams allowed. And here's the updated livery:

Wizzie wrote:MRT will use the Zyteks rebadged as BMWs and use Michelin tyres for 2015

Alright, I've put you down for those. I presume you were happy enough with the livery I made?

Aeroracing Engineering, Ural Racing, and Hydook Racing haven't yet chosen their engines (or more likely, do they rebadge the Zyteks or not) nor tyres, while Red Bull World Race Team haven't yet chosen their tyres.

Hydook Racing haven't yet announced if they make a new livery themselves or make me do it/update the one from last year. Ural Racing hasn't yet told me if they're happy with the new livery.

Red Bull World Race Team (I've put Battani, Hallenstein and Pässonen there as unconfirmed), ZimSport-Rosenforth, Hydook Racing and Jones Racing have unconfirmed drivers.

Bear in mind that just because I'm posting about these things often doesn't mean that there's any hurry in making decisions; you can still make and change your decisions up until the start of the season, which won't be until one or two F1RWRS races have gone through.

by **The Lukas** » 18 Apr 2012, 00:35

Nuppiz wrote:Ural Racing:

Great Livery!

by **tommykl** » 18 Apr 2012, 00:39

I'd like to remind you that Hydook stated that they would be happy to keep Dorval for 2015, and Dorval has stated that he would gladly stay there for 2015...

by **Nuppiz** » 18 Apr 2012, 00:44

tommykl wrote:I'd like to remind you that Hydook stated that they would be happy to keep Dorval for 2015, and Dorval has stated that he would gladly stay there for 2015...

Well yes, Dorval has been signed for Hydook's driver development programme, but in the latest post made by Pointrox (found on page 9), he hints that Dorval might be used in F3RWRS instead. So until Pointrox confirms whether or not Dorval drives in RoLFS, he's unconfirmed for the time being.

by **tommykl** » 18 Apr 2012, 00:49

Nuppiz wrote:
tommykl wrote:I'd like to remind you that Hydook stated that they would be happy to keep Dorval for 2015, and Dorval has stated that he would gladly stay there for 2015...

Well yes, Dorval has been signed for Hydook's driver development programme, but in the latest post made by Pointrox (found on page 9), he hints that Dorval might be used in F3RWRS instead. So until Pointrox confirms whether or not Dorval drives in RoLFS, he's unconfirmed for the time being.

Ah, OK.

by **Phoenix** » 18 Apr 2012, 01:48

Aeroracing Engineering will use Audi engines next season, as it's standard procedure.

by **Stramala** » 18 Apr 2012, 03:16

Nuppiz wrote:
tommykl wrote:I'd like to remind you that Hydook stated that they would be happy to keep Dorval for 2015, and Dorval has stated that he would gladly stay there for 2015...

Well yes, Dorval has been signed for Hydook's driver development programme, but in the latest post made by Pointrox (found on page 9), he hints that Dorval might be used in F3RWRS instead. So until Pointrox confirms whether or not Dorval drives in RoLFS, he's unconfirmed for the time being.

Does this mean he is considering sacking Carsten Jancker before the season even begins?

by **Pointrox** » 18 Apr 2012, 07:08

Wait wait wait - I'll get things straight

Alex Dorval is included in Hydook's development programme and if he will put on a good performance in this season, he will be awarded with F3RWRS drive for 2016. He is also signed for Hydook as a driver, and will remain as such for 2015.

by **Nuppiz** » 18 Apr 2012, 07:11

Pointrox wrote:Wait wait wait - I'll get things straight

Alex Dorval is included in Hydook's development programme and if he will put on a good performance in this season, he will be awarded with F3RWRS drive for 2016. He is still signed as my driver.

Ah, thanks for clarifying!

by **Pointrox** » 18 Apr 2012, 07:59

By the way - here's the 2015 Hydook livery

http://www10.zippyshare.com/v/82010531/file.html

We will use Zytek engines.

by **Nuppiz** » 18 Apr 2012, 08:32

Pointrox wrote:By the way - here's the 2015 Hydook livery

We will use Zytek engines.

Cool! Here it is with your numbers on it:

By the way, which tyres are you going to use? Bridgestone is already maxed out, but there's still one slot available on Michelin, two on Pirelli and Avon, and Goodyear and Dunlop aren't supplying anyone yet.

by **Pointrox** » 18 Apr 2012, 09:02

I'll pick Avon, then

by **eurobrun** » 18 Apr 2012, 09:40

Why is Battani still racing, he is getting moved on to bigger things next year.

Red Bull will use Michelin tyres next year.

by **Nuppiz** » 18 Apr 2012, 17:10

Pointrox wrote:I'll pick Avon, then

I've put you down for those, then!

eurobrun wrote:Why is Battani still racing, he is getting moved on to bigger things next year.

Red Bull will use Michelin tyres next year.

Hadn't noticed you saying anything about Battani recently, but he's now removed then. Michelin is now also supplying the maximum three teams.

Website · by **Wizzie** » 18 Apr 2012, 20:48

Since I've just realised both the F2RWRS and Rejects of LFS series both use V8 engines, should we make them the same capacity for 2016 so engine manufacturers can easily supply engines for both categories at a reasonable price? For the record, the F2RWRS uses 2.5L V8s and yes, I'm planning to allow more engines for 2016 but their stats will fall between the Lancia powerplant and the Audi unit to keeps as much parity as possible. I'll let you decide what the specs of the new 'universal' engine should be.

by **Nuppiz** » 18 Apr 2012, 22:43

Wizzie wrote:Since I've just realised both the F2RWRS and Rejects of LFS series both use V8 engines, should we make them the same capacity for 2016 so engine manufacturers can easily supply engines for both categories at a reasonable price? For the record, the F2RWRS uses 2.5L V8s and yes, I'm planning to allow more engines for 2016 but their stats will fall between the Lancia powerplant and the Audi unit to keeps as much parity as possible. I'll let you decide what the specs of the new 'universal' engine should be.

Well, the in-game engine for these cars is always a 3.0L V8, and there's no different engine specs, let alone manufacturers. I've simply created two different specs by putting a bit of Intake Restriction on the other engine while increading the amount of Added Mass on the another.

But technical stuff like that aside, the engines can be named whatever we want and be thought of being any spec we want (because nothing changes in-game, these changes only exist on this forum and the wiki). I think 2.5L V8s would be good for next year, especially given that the current cars are now much closer to F2RWRS cars than F3RWRS (which was the case last year).

For the record, here are the default stats of both a Judd-engined car and a Zytek-engined car:

Judd:

Zytek:

Website · by **Wizzie** » 18 Apr 2012, 22:52

Nuppiz wrote:
Wizzie wrote:Since I've just realised both the F2RWRS and Rejects of LFS series both use V8 engines, should we make them the same capacity for 2016 so engine manufacturers can easily supply engines for both categories at a reasonable price? For the record, the F2RWRS uses 2.5L V8s and yes, I'm planning to allow more engines for 2016 but their stats will fall between the Lancia powerplant and the Audi unit to keeps as much parity as possible. I'll let you decide what the specs of the new 'universal' engine should be.

Well, the in-game engine for these cars is always a 3.0L V8, and there's no different engine specs, let alone manufacturers. I've simply created two different specs by putting a bit of Intake Restriction on the other engine while increading the amount of Added Mass on the another.

But technical stuff like that aside, the engines can be named whatever we want and be thought of being any spec we want (because nothing changes in-game, these changes only exist on this forum and the wiki). I think 2.5L V8s would be good for next year, especially given that the current cars are now much closer to F2RWRS cars than F3RWRS (which was the case last year).

If that's the case, than the ROLFS can adopt the F2RWRS's system of giving their top drivers credits to help them on their way to the F1RWRS, removing the incentive to choose F1 over the feeder categories and a modified, much more stringent version of the F1 criteria can be re-added. Score one for me :lol:

EDIT: Yes, I have been reading too many TV Tropes again and now I've decided to take up the role of the guy whose uses reasonable means to get to his own ends. Whether it's working or not is entirely up for debate :lol:

by **The Lukas** » 19 Apr 2012, 00:15

Ural Racing use Zytek engines,rebaged as Lada

by **Nuppiz** » 19 Apr 2012, 07:04

SRMP wrote:RoLFS Commission concerned over the safety of South City sprint race layout

In a recent turn of events, the Rejects of LFS Commission has started to doubt the safety of the South City sprint event. "We are concerned that the proposed layout for the sprint race is not safe enough", said spokesman Jarno Toivonen. "The previous race there, which was run on the same layout as the now proposed one, was already quite dangerous, and now we are going to use much faster cars. Street circuits are never as safe as permanent circuits, but last season showed that the sprint layout used in South City is extremely dangerous. We fear for the safety and health of the drivers, should similar accidents happen this season."

However, despite the concerns, the Commission is not considering to drop the event entirely. "The circuit has a contract that runs until 2018, and we are sure that if proper precautions are taken, the drivers will be safe as on just about any other circuit. We are currently negotiating with the organisers of the South City GP, and try to look for a track layout which is both safe and provides good racing".

I have to reconsider using South City Classic as one of the tracks now; last season, it already proved to be a very accident-prone circuit, and recorded 8 retirements in total. Well, now with much faster cars the situation is extremely crazy; I just ran a test race, and only four cars finished, but the second one was one lap behind, while the third and fourth cars were three and four laps behind, respectively! So the race was no longer a contest of who was the fastest, but instead of who could avoid collisions as much as possible or at least make it into the pits to repair damage - which wasn't always possible as the pit entry was blocked by crashed cars. I like to have some sort of action in my races, but this kind of demolition derby is just too much. I've started to test the other two layouts possible - Town Course and Chicane Route - to see if they are safer.

by **Stramala** » 19 Apr 2012, 07:22

No, no! Farcical attrition is good! It made the 2014 FedEx Indy 100 a great race! Only 6 cars finished and my team scored a 1-2

by **Nuppiz** » 19 Apr 2012, 07:43

kostas22 wrote:No, no! Farcical attrition is good! It made the 2014 FedEx Indy 100 a great race! Only 6 cars finished and my team scored a 1-2

It's not just the attrition rate, but also the severity of the crashes; in some of my tests up to 5 cars rolled over, often in crashes that happened at around 250 km/h. The worst one was probably the one where a rolled-over car was hit again at a high speed, went airborne and did probably 15 barrell rolls at an extreme speed in the air before landing on top of a fence - all of this in just a few seconds. Many other severe crashes took place as well, and I'd say at least a couple of drivers would need to take some time off to recover. Of course, if the majority wants races like that, we could pretend that the cars are so protective that injuries are very rare to occur - although I'd still have to hand ridiculous amounts of penalties to some drivers (because the AI rarely does it's best to avoid crahes).

I'll see if I can run a few more test races and perhaps make some videos, then you could see if it's really what you want!

by **Stramala** » 19 Apr 2012, 08:04

Nuppiz wrote:
kostas22 wrote:No, no! Farcical attrition is good! It made the 2014 FedEx Indy 100 a great race! Only 6 cars finished and my team scored a 1-2

It's not just the attrition rate, but also the severity of the crashes; in some of my tests up to 5 cars rolled over, often in crashes that happened at around 250 km/h. The worst one was probably the one where a rolled-over car was hit again at a high speed, went airborne and did probably 15 barrell rolls at an extreme speed in the air before landing on top of a fence - all of this in just a few seconds. Many other severe crashes took place as well, and I'd say at least a couple of drivers would need to take some time off to recover. Of course, if the majority wants races like that, we could pretend that the cars are so protective that injuries are very rare to occur - although I'd still have to hand ridiculous amounts of penalties to some drivers (because the AI rarely does it's best to avoid crahes).

I'll see if I can run a few more test races and perhaps make some videos, then you could see if it's really what you want!

The REECCS has rolling Trabants. You need to retaliate!

Website · by **Wizzie** » 19 Apr 2012, 09:33

kostas22 wrote:
Nuppiz wrote:
kostas22 wrote:No, no! Farcical attrition is good! It made the 2014 FedEx Indy 100 a great race! Only 6 cars finished and my team scored a 1-2

It's not just the attrition rate, but also the severity of the crashes; in some of my tests up to 5 cars rolled over, often in crashes that happened at around 250 km/h. The worst one was probably the one where a rolled-over car was hit again at a high speed, went airborne and did probably 15 barrell rolls at an extreme speed in the air before landing on top of a fence - all of this in just a few seconds. Many other severe crashes took place as well, and I'd say at least a couple of drivers would need to take some time off to recover. Of course, if the majority wants races like that, we could pretend that the cars are so protective that injuries are very rare to occur - although I'd still have to hand ridiculous amounts of penalties to some drivers (because the AI rarely does it's best to avoid crahes).

I'll see if I can run a few more test races and perhaps make some videos, then you could see if it's really what you want!

The REECCS has rolling Trabants. You need to retaliate!

But the REECCS cars are basically Reliant Robins on roids :lol:

by **This** » 20 Apr 2012, 07:05

Difference is that often those Trabants roll over simultaniously, as in a very well practised choreography, i think ROLFS is more chaotic.

by **Nuppiz** » 20 Apr 2012, 07:19

This wrote:Difference is that often those Trabants roll over simultaniously, as in a very well practised choreography, i think ROLFS is more chaotic.

Well, here's a video of the Takagi cars spinning in a perfect sync. But yeah, for the most part it's just utter chaos, and you're never sure which cars make it through the next lap!

by **eurobrun** » 20 Apr 2012, 10:55

Could you please put some small Michelin and Petronas logos on the red bull car as minor sponsors.

Website · by **Wizzie** » 20 Apr 2012, 10:57

And now, MRT will spend all their credits on chassis upgrades before I completely lose track of how this series works.

by **Nuppiz** » 20 Apr 2012, 23:09

eurobrun wrote:Could you please put some small Michelin and Petronas logos on the red bull car as minor sponsors.

Here it is, then:

Wizzie wrote:And now, MRT will spend all their credits on chassis upgrades before I completely lose track of how this series works.

You got 5 extra points from Jason Hamilton (even if he might not be able to drive in the first GP), and with 32 credits per upgrade (I've changed the price considerably to make it harder to pull an enormous gap to others), you now have three chassis upgrades and 9 credits left.

Website · by **Wizzie** » 20 Apr 2012, 23:14

Nuppiz wrote:
eurobrun wrote:Could you please put some small Michelin and Petronas logos on the red bull car as minor sponsors.

Here it is, then:

Wizzie wrote:And now, MRT will spend all their credits on chassis upgrades before I completely lose track of how this series works.

You got 5 extra points from Jason Hamilton (even if he might not be able to drive in the first GP), and with 32 credits per upgrade (I've changed the price considerably to make it harder to pull an enormous gap to others), you now have three chassis upgrades and 9 credits left.

Depending on how the calender works, if Hamilton's unavailable for the first round, MRT will probably run either one of the F3RWRS drivers or one Nathan McKane if he's interested as it looks like I'm going to lose my battle to get a modified version of the F1 criteria reinstated.

by **Nuppiz** » 20 Apr 2012, 23:40

Wizzie wrote:Depending on how the calender works, if Hamilton's unavailable for the first round, MRT will probably run either one of the F3RWRS drivers or one Nathan McKane if he's interested as it looks like I'm going to lose my battle to get a modified version of the F1 criteria reinstated.

Race calendar:
April 9-12: Blackwood GP
May 7-10: Westhill GP
June 11-14: Fern Bay GP
July 16-19: South City GP
August 13-16: Aston GP
September 10-13: Kyoto Ring GP
September 19-20: Nippon Super 300 (Kyoto Ring Oval)

Plus pre-season tests in February-March

Website · by **Wizzie** » 21 Apr 2012, 09:34

Nuppiz wrote:
Wizzie wrote:Depending on how the calender works, if Hamilton's unavailable for the first round, MRT will probably run either one of the F3RWRS drivers or one Nathan McKane if he's interested as it looks like I'm going to lose my battle to get a modified version of the F1 criteria reinstated.

Race calendar:
April 9-12: Blackwood GP
May 7-10: Westhill GP
June 11-14: Fern Bay GP
July 16-19: South City GP
August 13-16: Aston GP
September 10-13: Kyoto Ring GP
September 19-20: Nippon Super 300 (Kyoto Ring Oval)

Plus pre-season tests in February-March

Hmm... that means Hamilton should be fine for Blackwood but chances are he'll miss pre-season testing. Shove McKane in the car. I wanna see if the kid's really any good

by **Stramala** » 21 Apr 2012, 09:51

Wizzie wrote:Hmm... that means Hamilton should be fine for Blackwood but chances are he'll miss pre-season testing. Shove McKane in the car. I wanna see if the kid's really any good

Two Scots in the same team? The Glaswegian influence has really got to you...

The Generic Times wrote:Il Barone Rampante re-launches RoLFS team for 2015

After a dismal season in the inaugural Reject of LFS season in 2014, the team is back in 2015 with a completely refreshed driver lineup, and a new title sponsor to boot. Peroni is on its way out and has been replaced by the red of fellow Italian alcohol brand Martini. The livery harks back to the Lancia Delta HF Integrale driven by Miki Biasion at the 1990 Sanremo Rally in a limited edition red, and also includes Telecom Italia shifting away from advertising their TIM cell brand to their Alice ADSL brand. The team has therefore been renamed as Martini Parma Corse.

by **JeremyMcClean** » 22 Apr 2012, 03:08

Just curious but is this related in any way to F1RWRS? (as in, it's in the same universe as F1RWRS, because I see Anton Bosevic and Jason Hamilton in there)

by **tommykl** » 22 Apr 2012, 03:16

JeremyMcClean wrote:Just curious but is this related in any way to F1RWRS? (as in, it's in the same universe as F1RWRS, because I see Anton Bosevic and Jason Hamilton in there)

It's in the same universe, but held on different weekends to make sure that they can compete in both their series (right?)

by **JeremyMcClean** » 22 Apr 2012, 03:19

tommykl wrote:
JeremyMcClean wrote:Just curious but is this related in any way to F1RWRS? (as in, it's in the same universe as F1RWRS, because I see Anton Bosevic and Jason Hamilton in there)

It's in the same universe, but held on different weekends to make sure that they can compete in both their series (right?)

Makes sense.

Sebastian Groves is interested in a drive for 2015, seeing how Hamilton and Bosevic are eligible, Groves decides why not? (He'll take anything, seeing that he decided to sign up late.)

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