by Aerond » 24 Apr 2012, 03:55
kostas22 wrote:Aerond wrote:kostas22 wrote:If we can somehow persuade DGN/ARC to change their minds, Alitalia would like Mestolio back
Chris Dagnall will change his mind if Mestolio gets a seat for 2015
We already have two contracted drivers for 2015, so not happening.
by AndreaModa » 24 Apr 2012, 04:58
kostas22 wrote:Aerond wrote:kostas22 wrote:If we can somehow persuade DGN/ARC to change their minds, Alitalia would like Mestolio back
Chris Dagnall will change his mind if Mestolio gets a seat for 2015
We already have two contracted drivers for 2015, so not happening.
by Klon » 24 Apr 2012, 05:16
AndreaModa wrote:What if a third team comes in and he is guaranteed a seat at that team though?
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by Stramala » 24 Apr 2012, 05:34
AndreaModa wrote:What if a third team comes in and he is guaranteed a seat at that team though?
by AndreaModa » 24 Apr 2012, 06:25
kostas22 wrote:AndreaModa wrote:What if a third team comes in and he is guaranteed a seat at that team though?
I'll give you 15 credits if you take him on loan for the whole 2015 season.
by Stramala » 24 Apr 2012, 06:43
by AdrianSutil » 24 Apr 2012, 07:40
by Stramala » 24 Apr 2012, 07:45
AdrianSutil wrote:Mitie Aviation might be interested in the Mestolio deal. Is he a pay-driver? If not, what's been spent on him in terms of qualifying and race performances?
by Warren Hughes » 24 Apr 2012, 07:53
by AdrianSutil » 24 Apr 2012, 08:33
Warren Hughes wrote:Prospec might also want in on this Mestolio deal. AdrianSutil must hate me right now
In fact, if Mestolio chooses Prospec over Mitie, we will offer Mitie Jean-Luc Schiller's services for 2015, for free.
by eurobrun » 24 Apr 2012, 08:40
kostas22 wrote:AdrianSutil wrote:Mitie Aviation might be interested in the Mestolio deal. Is he a pay-driver? If not, what's been spent on him in terms of qualifying and race performances?
He is a pay driver, but one of the better ones, somehow...I don't understand how it works, but it seems Ben Fleet is the ultimate pay driver, and Mestolio has seemed like a pay driver with surprising potential but occasional inconsistency.
Luckily for me, the 15 credits offered are paid off by the 5 ARC lost to me in a bet, and 10 that Simpson Motorsports owe me
Wizzie wrote:He's from a family of used cars salesmen... which might as well be the mafia EurobrunMe wrote:I have no idea why I always think Tony D'Alberto is a mafia member
by Warren Hughes » 24 Apr 2012, 08:48
AdrianSutil wrote:Warren Hughes wrote:Prospec might also want in on this Mestolio deal. AdrianSutil must hate me right now
In fact, if Mestolio chooses Prospec over Mitie, we will offer Mitie Jean-Luc Schiller's services for 2015, for free.
Yeah. I hope your team crashes and burns next season
Haven't got a problem with Prospec getting involved with it. But as for Schiller, can I ask the same questions I asked about Mestolio please?
by tristan1117 » 24 Apr 2012, 09:32
eurobrun wrote:kostas22 wrote:AdrianSutil wrote:Mitie Aviation might be interested in the Mestolio deal. Is he a pay-driver? If not, what's been spent on him in terms of qualifying and race performances?
He is a pay driver, but one of the better ones, somehow...I don't understand how it works, but it seems Ben Fleet is the ultimate pay driver, and Mestolio has seemed like a pay driver with surprising potential but occasional inconsistency.
Luckily for me, the 15 credits offered are paid off by the 5 ARC lost to me in a bet, and 10 that Simpson Motorsports owe me
I wouldn't go anywhere near Mestolio, he's too inconsistent and has a tendency to be deletrazianly crap a couple of times a season.
by Aerond » 24 Apr 2012, 10:03
Warren Hughes wrote:Prospec might also want in on this Mestolio deal. AdrianSutil must hate me right now
In fact, if Mestolio chooses Prospec over Mitie, we will offer Mitie Jean-Luc Schiller's services for 2015, for free.
by AdrianSutil » 24 Apr 2012, 10:22
by Aerond » 24 Apr 2012, 10:22
AdrianSutil wrote:Well we ain't interested in another pay-driver anyway...
by Stramala » 24 Apr 2012, 10:46
by Aerond » 24 Apr 2012, 10:50
kostas22 wrote:So, Pemberton Prospec, we will loan you Mestolio for 2015 on the understanding that you take him onboard for the ENTIRE SEASON. If you sack him mid-season you will be wholly responsible for any fines DGN start chasing us up for. You will be paid 15 credits at the start of the season by Alitalia for hiring him, but this will be refunded to us if you sack him.
by Stramala » 24 Apr 2012, 10:52
Aerond wrote:kostas22 wrote:So, Pemberton Prospec, we will loan you Mestolio for 2015 on the understanding that you take him onboard for the ENTIRE SEASON. If you sack him mid-season you will be wholly responsible for any fines DGN start chasing us up for. You will be paid 15 credits at the start of the season by Alitalia for hiring him, but this will be refunded to us if you sack him.
I´m afraid there´s no deal for Alitalia here, since you don´t have any rights for Mestolio over 2015. Prospec expressed their interest in Mestolio for 2015 and Chris Dagnall, as Mestolio´s manager, has accepted the deal, end of story. Now, if you want Mestolio back for the last 3 races of 2014, then you must deal with ARC, which is the team Mestolio is contracted until the end of the season.
by Aerond » 24 Apr 2012, 10:54
kostas22 wrote:Aerond wrote:kostas22 wrote:So, Pemberton Prospec, we will loan you Mestolio for 2015 on the understanding that you take him onboard for the ENTIRE SEASON. If you sack him mid-season you will be wholly responsible for any fines DGN start chasing us up for. You will be paid 15 credits at the start of the season by Alitalia for hiring him, but this will be refunded to us if you sack him.
I´m afraid there´s no deal for Alitalia here, since you don´t have any rights for Mestolio over 2015. Prospec expressed their interest in Mestolio for 2015 and Chris Dagnall, as Mestolio´s manager, has accepted the deal, end of story. Now, if you want Mestolio back for the last 3 races of 2014, then you must deal with ARC, which is the team Mestolio is contracted until the end of the season.
Oh, so you used us? You f***ing bastards! We are going to do everything in our power to f***ing destory DGNgineering in future seasons. Once you lose your turbo, you will be a massive worthless turd at the back of the grid! CAZZO!
by Stramala » 24 Apr 2012, 11:02
Aerond wrote:kostas22 wrote:Oh, so you used us? You f***ing bastards! We are going to do everything in our power to f***ing destory DGNgineering in future seasons. Once you lose your turbo, you will be a massive worthless turd at the back of the grid! CAZZO!
I haven´t used anyone. You just made up a story in your head which was far from reality.
by AdrianSutil » 24 Apr 2012, 12:27
Aerond wrote:AdrianSutil wrote:Well we ain't interested in another pay-driver anyway...
booo!
by Wizzie » 24 Apr 2012, 15:48
Martin Brundle, at the 2005 San Marino GP wrote:You can sort of imagine in four or five years time talking about these guys we've got on the front two rows of the grid today, can't you? They're very much the future of Grand Prix Racing.
by DanielPT » 24 Apr 2012, 18:59
Someone from Sunshine wrote:We are pleased with this result.
by Wizzie » 24 Apr 2012, 19:18
DanielPT wrote:Someone from Sunshine wrote:We are pleased with this result.
Martin Brundle, at the 2005 San Marino GP wrote:You can sort of imagine in four or five years time talking about these guys we've got on the front two rows of the grid today, can't you? They're very much the future of Grand Prix Racing.
by dr-baker » 24 Apr 2012, 19:55
kostas22 wrote:AdrianSutil wrote:Mitie Aviation might be interested in the Mestolio deal. Is he a pay-driver? If not, what's been spent on him in terms of qualifying and race performances?
He is a pay driver, but one of the better ones, somehow...I don't understand how it works, but it seems Ben Fleet is the ultimate pay driver...
by Wizzie » 24 Apr 2012, 19:58
dr-baker wrote:kostas22 wrote:AdrianSutil wrote:Mitie Aviation might be interested in the Mestolio deal. Is he a pay-driver? If not, what's been spent on him in terms of qualifying and race performances?
He is a pay driver, but one of the better ones, somehow...I don't understand how it works, but it seems Ben Fleet is the ultimate pay driver...
Yeah, the ultimate pay driver who can only rarely get the car to the finish line!
Martin Brundle, at the 2005 San Marino GP wrote:You can sort of imagine in four or five years time talking about these guys we've got on the front two rows of the grid today, can't you? They're very much the future of Grand Prix Racing.
by Stramala » 24 Apr 2012, 20:02
dr-baker wrote:kostas22 wrote:AdrianSutil wrote:Mitie Aviation might be interested in the Mestolio deal. Is he a pay-driver? If not, what's been spent on him in terms of qualifying and race performances?
He is a pay driver, but one of the better ones, somehow...I don't understand how it works, but it seems Ben Fleet is the ultimate pay driver...
Yeah, the ultimate pay driver who can only rarely get the car to the finish line!
by JeremyMcClean » 25 Apr 2012, 03:37
kostas22 wrote:He is a pay driver, but one of the better ones, somehow...I don't understand how it works, but it seems Ben Fleet is the ultimate pay driver, and Mestolio has seemed like a pay driver with surprising potential but occasional inconsistency.
dinizintheoven wrote:I've got one: "Reject Moments That Actually Never Happened, As Opposed To Those That Did And Which End With 'Oh, Wait!'" by the users of the F1 Rejects forum.
by Warren Hughes » 25 Apr 2012, 04:30
Wizzie wrote:What ever happened to Prospec trying to get Rosco Vantini for 2015?
by This » 25 Apr 2012, 04:37
JeremyMcClean wrote:kostas22 wrote:He is a pay driver, but one of the better ones, somehow...I don't understand how it works, but it seems Ben Fleet is the ultimate pay driver, and Mestolio has seemed like a pay driver with surprising potential but occasional inconsistency.
Ron Mignolet would like to debate that, wherever he is
by Wizzie » 25 Apr 2012, 19:52
AndreaModa wrote:kostas22 wrote:AndreaModa wrote:What if a third team comes in and he is guaranteed a seat at that team though?
I'll give you 15 credits if you take him on loan for the whole 2015 season.
Well I'm certainly not going to make a rash decision right now, Melrose has scored more points than Jones this year (just!) and I want to see how his performance continues for the remainder of the year. He's done well in the car, and that's not something I can guarantee from Mestolio, and I'm going to need two strong, reliable drivers next year, and I know I can get that from Melrose. I don't know about Mestolio. Plus, I already have an agreement with Wizzie for Melrose next year, so unless Wizzie wants out (something I suspect is highly unlikely) then I don't intend to change my position.
Martin Brundle, at the 2005 San Marino GP wrote:You can sort of imagine in four or five years time talking about these guys we've got on the front two rows of the grid today, can't you? They're very much the future of Grand Prix Racing.
by BlindCaveSalamander » 25 Apr 2012, 20:00
James Davies wrote:In case another team drops out, or merges, or what have you in the future, could I reserve a spot? I'm sick of failing to qualify for other teams now, if I'm going to be slow, I might as well do it for my own team.
by JeremyMcClean » 26 Apr 2012, 06:10
This wrote:JeremyMcClean wrote:kostas22 wrote:He is a pay driver, but one of the better ones, somehow...I don't understand how it works, but it seems Ben Fleet is the ultimate pay driver, and Mestolio has seemed like a pay driver with surprising potential but occasional inconsistency.
Ron Mignolet would like to debate that, wherever he is
Truth be told, Mignolet's teammates weren't exacly the fastest of the field...
dinizintheoven wrote:I've got one: "Reject Moments That Actually Never Happened, As Opposed To Those That Did And Which End With 'Oh, Wait!'" by the users of the F1 Rejects forum.
by dr-baker » 26 Apr 2012, 08:37
JeremyMcClean wrote:kostas22 wrote:He is a pay driver, but one of the better ones, somehow...I don't understand how it works, but it seems Ben Fleet is the ultimate pay driver, and Mestolio has seemed like a pay driver with surprising potential but occasional inconsistency.
Any pay-driver who gets a podium is fast in my opinion!
by JeremyMcClean » 26 Apr 2012, 10:18
dr-baker wrote:JeremyMcClean wrote:kostas22 wrote:He is a pay driver, but one of the better ones, somehow...I don't understand how it works, but it seems Ben Fleet is the ultimate pay driver, and Mestolio has seemed like a pay driver with surprising potential but occasional inconsistency.
Any pay-driver who gets a podium is fast in my opinion!
Yeah, on one of the few occasions that Ben Fleet actually made it to the finish line... And doesn't he have the record for most poles in a season? (At least that's what the wiki says, if I remember correctly...)
dinizintheoven wrote:I've got one: "Reject Moments That Actually Never Happened, As Opposed To Those That Did And Which End With 'Oh, Wait!'" by the users of the F1 Rejects forum.
by AndreaModa » 26 Apr 2012, 10:35
dr-baker wrote:JeremyMcClean wrote:kostas22 wrote:He is a pay driver, but one of the better ones, somehow...I don't understand how it works, but it seems Ben Fleet is the ultimate pay driver, and Mestolio has seemed like a pay driver with surprising potential but occasional inconsistency.
Any pay-driver who gets a podium is fast in my opinion!
Yeah, on one of the few occasions that Ben Fleet actually made it to the finish line... And doesn't he have the record for most poles in a season? (At least that's what the wiki says, if I remember correctly...)
by FMecha » 26 Apr 2012, 13:54
Warren Hughes wrote:Wizzie wrote:What ever happened to Prospec trying to get Rosco Vantini for 2015?
Gave up. SuperAguri (does he own Vantini?) wasn't responding so I've decided to pursue other options. Plus it'll be useful to have a pay-driver. Actually, before Mestolio became available I was looking very likely to re-sign Schiller.
Schiller is now available for anyone who wants him. Don't forget he has shown flashes of promise including an excellent 6th place at Monza.
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by AdrianSutil » 26 Apr 2012, 18:34
Mitie announce name and chassis change for 2015:
Mr.Alexander spoke today about the changes for next season, with title sponsor Kingfisher buying Mitie Aviation's remaining stake in the team. "Mitie Aviation have gradually decrease their funding for the team, citing poor performances as their main reason for pulling out. We are not worried as my own finances have kept the team from folding. After signing a deal with Kingfisher, they again approached us about taking over the team completely. I wasn't happy at relinquishing my own stake so we have reached a 50/50 agreement."
But how close was the team from folding? "It was looking increasingly likely we would have sold the team completely, we kept it quiet from the press as it's something we wanted to sort out ourselves but now we have the financial needs to continue into next year."
And the team name for 2015? "Kingfisher Racing, with the chassis known as KR-002 rather than 001. The F2 team will be known as Kingfisher Holden and will have the KH-001 chassis and the F3 team will be called Kingfisher Junior and run the KJ-002 chassis. Eurotunnel also leave as sponsors but we keep Adidas and Drubnik."
by AndreaModa » 26 Apr 2012, 22:56
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