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Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby Wizzie » 08 May 2012, 16:14

Deadline is the conclusion of FP2 as usual

Wizzie's Predictions
2012 Spanish Grand Prix:
1. Raikkonen
2. Hamilton
3. Vettel
4. Button
5. Rosberg
6. Grosjean
7. Webber
8. Schumacher
9. Alonso
10. Senna

Pole: Hamilton
Fastest lap: Grosjean
First Retirement: Maldonado
ROTR: Pastor Maldonado (Qualifies in top 5 before proceeding to lose it all off the start and collide with the Saubers by the end of the lap)
IIDOTR: Kovalainen (Gets into Q2 on merit again and proceeds to bash Toro Rosso's face in during the race)
DBTMOTR: Maldonado
Minor League Premiership: Grosjean
Non-Qualifiers: None
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Re: Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby the Masked Lapwing » 08 May 2012, 16:30

TMLW's Predictions
2012 Spanish Grand Prix
1. Webber
2. Button
3. Raikkonen
4. Vettel
5. Grosjean
6. Schumacher
7. Massa
8. Rosberg
9. Senna
10. Ricciardo

Pole: Raikkonen
Fastest lap: Button
First retirement: Petrov
ROTR: Hamilton
IIDOTR: Webber
DBTMOTR: Hamilton
MLP: Grosjean
DNQ: None
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Re: Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby Shizuka » 08 May 2012, 16:37

Wizzie wrote:Wizzie's Predictions
2012 Bahrain Grand Prix:


What? :lol:

1. Raikkonen
2. Vettel
3. Grosjean
4. Webber
5. Hamilton
6. Alonso
7. Button
8. Schumacher
9. Rosberg
10. Senna

Pole: Hamilton
Fastest lap: Räikkönen
First Retirement: Pic
ROTR: Toro Rosso
IIDOTR: Senna (from the pits to 10th)
DBTMOTR: Vergne
Minor League Premiership: Grosjean
Non-Qualifiers: None
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Re: Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby Sublime_FA11C » 08 May 2012, 18:30

2012 Spanish Grand Prix:
1. Grosjean
2. Webber
3. Button
4. Vettel
5. Alonso
6. Rosberg
7. Hamilton
8. Schumacher
9. Maldonado
10. Perez

Pole: Webber
Fastest lap: Grosjean
First Retirement: Kovalainen
ROTR: Di Resta
IIDOTR: /
DBTMOTR: Senna
Minor League Premiership: Grosjean
Non-Qualifiers: None
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Re: Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby eurobrun » 08 May 2012, 19:09

Sublime_FA11C wrote:2012 Spanish Grand Prix:
1. Grosjean
2. Webber
3. Button
4. Vettel
5. Alonso
6. Rosberg
7. Hamilton
8. Schumacher
9. Maldonado
10. Perez

Pole: Webber
Fastest lap: Grosjean
First Retirement: Kovalainen
ROTR: Di Resta
IIDOTR: /
DBTMOTR: Senna
Minor League Premiership: Grosjean
Non-Qualifiers: None


No. Just no. Anything but that.
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Re: Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby Sunshine_Baby_[IT] » 08 May 2012, 19:43

eurobrun wrote:
Sublime_FA11C wrote:2012 Spanish Grand Prix:
1. Grosjean

No. Just no. Anything but that.

:shock: :? :o

Sunshine predictions:
2012 Spanish Grand Prix:
1. Hamilton
2. Rosberg
3. Raikkonen
4. Button
5. Alonso
6. Vettel
7. Webber
8. Vergne
9. Schumacher
10. Maldonado

Pole: Rosberg
Fastest lap: Button
First Retirement: Pic
ROTR: Grosjean
IIDOTR: Maldonado
DBTMOTR: Grosjean
Minor League Premiership: Vergne
Non-Qualifiers: no one
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Re: Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby Pamphlet » 08 May 2012, 21:16

Wildcard time! I'm going against my own guessthegrid.com predictions. Slightly.

Pamphlet's Predictions
2012 Spanish Grand Prix:
1. Raikkonen
2. Hamilton
3. Button
4. Webber
5. Massa
6. Grosjean
7. Alonso
8. Vettel
9. Schumacher
10. Di Resta

Pole: Hamilton
Fastest lap: Raikkonen
First Retirement: Rosberg
ROTR: Vettel (thoroughly beaten by just about everyone)
IIDOTR: Raikkonen (charges through the top 3 in the opening laps, takes the lead and never lets it go) ; Massa (FINALLY proves his point by having better pace than Alonso for the third time in a row, even with the upgrades)
DBTMOTR: Grosjean (underperforms despite outqualifying Kimi) ; if retirements count then Rosberg
Minor League Premiership: Pic
Non-Qualifiers: None
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Re: Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby Wizzie » 08 May 2012, 21:27

Pamphlet wrote:DBTMOTR: Grosjean (underperforms despite outqualifying Kimi) ; if retirements count then Rosberg


Retirements do count, but only under certain circumstances. If a mechanical failure is involved, that driver is saved from DBTMOTR even if they really deserve it on how the rest of the weekend panned out :lol:
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Re: Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby DOSBoot » 08 May 2012, 21:35

DOSBoot's Perdictions
2012 Spanish Grand Prix:
1. Hamilton
2. Webber
3. Raikkonen
4. Button
5. Vettel
6. Grosjean
7. Rosberg
8. Schumacher
9. Alonso
10. Perez

Pole: Webber
Fastest lap: Hamilton
First Retirement: Petrov
ROTR: Vernge
IIDOTR: Raikkonen
DBTMOTR: Massa
Minor League Premiership: Grosjean
Non-Qualifiers: None
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Re: Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby Pamphlet » 08 May 2012, 21:36

Wizzie wrote:
Pamphlet wrote:DBTMOTR: Grosjean (underperforms despite outqualifying Kimi) ; if retirements count then Rosberg


Retirements do count, but only under certain circumstances. If a mechanical failure is involved, that driver is saved from DBTMOTR even if they really deserve it on how the rest of the weekend panned out :lol:


My bet is for Rosberg to crash out after a first corner collision (likely caused by him), so I'm guessing it counts in that case, right?
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Re: Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby Wizzie » 08 May 2012, 21:39

Pamphlet wrote:
Wizzie wrote:
Pamphlet wrote:DBTMOTR: Grosjean (underperforms despite outqualifying Kimi) ; if retirements count then Rosberg


Retirements do count, but only under certain circumstances. If a mechanical failure is involved, that driver is saved from DBTMOTR even if they really deserve it on how the rest of the weekend panned out :lol:


My bet is for Rosberg to crash out after a first corner collision (likely caused by him), so I'm guessing it counts in that case, right?


Yeah. But nobody knows how I end up getting DBTMOTR in the end. Hell, even I don't know half the time :lol:
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Re: Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby Phoenix » 08 May 2012, 22:07

Phoenix's predictions:

1.- Hamilton
2.- Räikkönen
3.- Vettel
4.- Grosjean
5.- Alonso
6.- Webber
7.- Rosberg
8.- Kobayashi
9.- Pérez
10.- di Resta

Pole position: Hamilton
Fastest lap: Räikkönen
RotR: Toro Rosso
IIDotR: di Resta
MLP: Grosjean
DBTMotR: Massa
DNQs: none
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Re: Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby East Londoner » 09 May 2012, 01:58

East Londoner's Predictions
1995 Spanish Grand Prix

1. Raikkonen
2. Webber
3. Button
4. Vettel
5. Schumacher
6. Rosberg
7. Alonso
8. Grosjean
9. Massa
10. Senna

Pole: Webber
Fastest lap: Raikkonen
First retirement: Maldonado (ridiculous move on Ricciardo means he gets stuck in the kitty litter)
ROTR: McLaren pitcrew send Hamilton on his way with only three wheels properly attached to his wagon. When he was in with a great chance to win
IIDOTR: Ricciardo recovers well from the Reverend's idiocy and nearly snatches the final point
DBTMOTR: Maldonado for obvious reasons
MLP: Ricciardo
DNQ: None
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Re: Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby Phoenix » 09 May 2012, 02:10

East Londoner wrote:1995 Spanish Grand Prix


Can you explain me the joke, please?
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Re: Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby East Londoner » 09 May 2012, 02:14

Phoenix wrote:
East Londoner wrote:1995 Spanish Grand Prix


Can you explain me the joke, please?

Ah bathplug! I've been in a very 1995 mood today, that'll be why. ;)

I also feel 2012 is too far into the future for me. I think I'll stay in the 1990s, it was all better then.
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Re: Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby tommykl » 09 May 2012, 03:03

tommykl's Predictions
2012 Spanish Grand Prix

1. Hamilton
2. Räikkönen
3. Button
4. Webber (you can't beat consistency)
5. Vettel
6. Grosjean
7. Schumacher
8. Alonso
9. Maldonado
10. Kobayashi

Pole: Webber
Fastest lap: Hamilton
First retirement: Ricciardo
ROTR: Senna
IIDOTR: Schumacher
DBTMOTR: Senna
MLP: Grosjean
DNQ: None
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Re: Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby Klon » 09 May 2012, 03:44

Klon's Predictions
2012 Spanish Grand Prix:
1. Grosjean (you heard it here second!)
2. Hamilton
3. Button
4. Webber
5. Vettel
6. Räikkönen
7. Schumacher
8. Maldonado
9. Senna
10. Kobayashi

Pole: Schumacher
Fastest lap: Button
First Retirement: Di Resta
ROTR: Kimi Räikkönen (ruins Sergio Perez race whilst battling with him for P4)
IIDOTR: Romain Grosjean (no, you don't expect him to win - admit it!)
DBTMOTR: Rosberg
Minor League Premiership: Grosjean
Non-Qualifiers: None
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Re: Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby Stramala » 09 May 2012, 04:00

2012 Spanish Grand Prix:
1. Räikkönen
2. Grosjean
3. Vettel
4. Button
5. Rosberg
6. Hamilton
7. Perez
8. Kobayashi
9. Senna
10. Di Resta

Pole: Rosberg
Fastest lap: Vettel
First Retirement: Ricciardo
ROTR: Schumacher
IIDOTR: Lotus-Renault
DBTMOTR: Schumacher
Minor League Premiership: Grosjean
Non-Qualifiers: None
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Re: Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby Sublime_FA11C » 09 May 2012, 04:43

Ha!

Lotus on current form gets nominated 3rd at worst and 1st at best, so there's nothing insane about tipping Grosjean for the win. When Mercedes was fast, it was the unlikely car that won. I stabbed in the dark that Kimi might have an accident and DNF so he's not in the points. This s 2012, so Alonso has a better chance of winning back-to-back races than Vettel.

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Re: Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby Ataxia » 09 May 2012, 06:07

BLN's Predictions
2012 Gran Premio de España
1. Raikkonen
2. Hamilton
3. Grosjean
4. Webber
5. Rosberg
6. Vettel
7. Button
8. Kobayashi
9. Alonso
10. Senna

Pole: Vettel
Fastest lap: Kobayashi
First Retirement: Karthikeyan
ROTR: Massa
IIDOTR: Raikkonen
DBTMOTR: Ricciardo
Minor League Premiership: Grosjean
Non-Qualifiers: None
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Re: Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby JeremyMcClean » 09 May 2012, 06:34

JeremyMcClean's Predictions
2012 Spanish Grand Prix:
1. Button
2. Grosjean
3. Hamilton
4. Webber
5. Vettel
6. Rosberg
7. Raikkonen
8. Perez
9. Alonso
10. Massa

Pole: Grosjean
Fastest Lap: Button
First Retirement: None!
ROTR: The non-existent rain call
IIDOTR: Grosjean
DBTMOTR: Schumacher
MLP: Grosjean by a country mile
Non-Qualifiers: None
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Re: Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby tristan1117 » 09 May 2012, 09:39

tristan1117's Predictions
2012 Spanish Grand Prix:
1. Webber
2. Hamilton
3. Raikkonen
4. Vettel
5. Schumacher
6. Grosjean
7. Button
8. Perez
9. Senna
10. Massa

Pole: Hamilton
Fastest lap: Raikkonen
First Retirement: Kobayashi
ROTR: Rosberg
IIDOTR: Schumacher
DBTMOTR: Maldonado
Minor League Premiership: Grosjean
Non-Qualifiers: None
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Re: Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby dr-baker » 09 May 2012, 20:32

1. Raikkonen
2. Button
3. GRSJN
4. Hamilton
5. Webber
6. Vettel
7. Alonso
8. Rosberg
9. Perez
10. di Resta

Pole: Hamilton
Fastest lap: Button
First Retirement: Massa
ROTR: Massa (only retirement)
IIDOTR: Raikkonen
DBTMOTR: Massa
Minor League Premiership: GRSJN
Non-Qualifiers: None
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Re: Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby Dj_bereta » 10 May 2012, 03:18

1. Raikkonen
2. Vettel
3. Grosjean
4. Webber
5. Hamilton
6. Button
7. Rosberg
8. Schumacher
9. Perez
10. Di Resta

Pole: Hamilton
Fastest lap: Raikkonen
First Retirement: Glock
ROTR: Ferrari
IIDOTR: Raikkonen
DBTMOTR: Ricciardo
Minor League Premiership: Grosjean
Non-Qualifiers: None
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Re: Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby Minardi Man » 10 May 2012, 07:17

Wizzie's Predictions
2012 Spanish Grand Prix:
1) Raikonen (oh god please)
2) Button
3) Hamilton
4) Grosjean
5) Alonso
6) Rosberg
7) Webber
8) Alonso
9) Senna
10) Massa

Pole: Hamilton
Fastest lap: Raikonen
First Retirement: Maldolnado
ROTR: Vettel (Screws up a decent position with a silly mistake)
IIDOTR: Raikonen
DBTMOTR: Ricciardo
Minor League Premiership: Grosjean
Non-Qualifiers: None
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Re: Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby ranig » 10 May 2012, 18:54

Ranig's Predictions
2012 Spanish Grand Prix:
1) Hamilton
2) Webber
3) Raikkonen
4) Vettel
5) Button
6) Alonso
7) Perez
8) Grosjean
9) Maldonado
10) Hulkenberg

Pole: Button
Fastest lap: Raikonen
First Retirement: no retirements
ROTR: Kobayashi [qualified high, screwed up in the race]
IIDOTR: Webber [from Q2 to podium]
DBTMOTR: Massa
Minor League Premiership: Grosjean
Non-Qualifiers: None
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Re: Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby eurobrun » 10 May 2012, 19:18

20012 Spanish GP

1. Hamilton
2. Raikkonen
3. Button
4. Webber
5. Rosberg
6. Vettel
7. Kobayashi
8. Massa
9. GGGGGRRRRRSSSSJJJJJNNNNNN
10. Ricciardo

Pole: Hamilton
Fastest lap: Vettel
First Retirement: Schumacher/Alonso
ROTR: Schumacher (Takes Alonso out on the first lap. Makes the Whole Spamish Press hate him)
DBTMOTR: That French guy who drives for Marussia
IIDOTR: Massa
DNQ's: none
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Re: Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby RAK » 10 May 2012, 23:05

RAK's Predictions:

1) Hamilton
2) Vettel
3) Raikkonen
4) Button
5) Webber
6) Grosjean
7) Rosberg
8) Alonso
9) Schumacher
10) Perez

Pole: Hamilton
Fastest Lap: Vettel
First Retirement: Glock
ROTR: Ferrari
IIDOTR: Raikkonen
DBTMOTR: Massa
MLP: Grosjean
DNQs: None
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Re: Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby Enforcer » 10 May 2012, 23:45

1. Button
2. Vettel
3. Raikkonen
4. Alonso
5. Schumacher
6. Webber
7. Hamilton
8. Grosjean
9. Rosberg
10. Di Resta

Pole: Button
Fastest Lap: Vettel
First Retirement: Glock
ROTR: I'm really struggling with this... Massa?
IIDOTR: Err... Raikkonen
DBTMOTR: Massa
MLP: Grosjean
DNQs: None
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Re: Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby Ed24 » 11 May 2012, 00:06

Ed24's Predictions
2012 Spanish Grand Prix:

1. Vettel
2. Button
3. Hamilton
4. Webber
5. Raikkonen
6. Grosjean
7. Alonso
8. Rosberg
9. Massa
10. Schumacher

Pole: Vettel
Fastest lap: Raikkonen
First Retirement: Petrov
ROTR: Sauber
IIDOTR: Vergne
DBTMOTR: Ricciardo
Minor League Premiership: Grosjean
Non-Qualifiers: None
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Re: Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby DanielPT » 11 May 2012, 01:07

DanielPT's Predictions
2012 Spanish Grand Prix:

1. Button
2. Rosberg
3. Raikkonen
4. Vettel
5. Hamilton
6. Webber
7. Alonso
8. Kobayashi
9. Paul di Resta
10. Perez

Pole: Rosberg
Fastest lap: Raikkonen
First Retirement: Schumacher/Grosjean (They will tangle together)
ROTR: Schumacher (it's his fault)
IIDOTR: Paul di Resta
DBTMOTR: Massa
Minor League Premiership: Vergne
Non-Qualifiers: None
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Re: Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby QuickYoda41 » 11 May 2012, 07:50

QuickYoda41's Predictions
2012 Spanish Grand Prix:

1. Räikkönen
2. Button
3. Hamilton
4. Webber
5. Rosberg
6. Grosjean
7. Alonso
8. Vettel
9. Schumacher
10. Massa

Pole: Hamilton
Fastest lap: Vergne
First Retirement: nobody
ROTR: Bore-celona :arrow: the track
IIDOTR: Webber
DBTMOTR: Hülkenberg
Minor League Premiership: Grosjean
Non-Qualifiers: None
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Re: Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby AdrianSutil » 11 May 2012, 08:26

AdrianSutil's predictions:
2012 Spanish Grand Prix of possible boredom

1. Hamilton
2. Vettel
3. Raikkonen
4. Alonso
5. Maldonado
6. Grosjean
7. Vettel
8. Massa
9. Vergne
10. Kovalainen

Pole: Vettel
Fastest lap: Button
First retirement: Webber
ROTR: Webber (fail on lap1)
IIDOTR: Maldonado
DBTMOTR: Senna
MLP: Grosjean
DNQ: None
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Re: Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby RealRacingRoots » 11 May 2012, 13:07

RRR's Predictions
The 2012 Grand Prix where the Spanish fans go crazy, and the race don't matter.

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1. Button
2. Vettel
3. Raikkonen
4. Hamilton
5. Grosjean
6. Webber
7. Massa
8. Rosberg
9. Di Resta
10. Schumacher

Pole: Button
Fastest lap: Grosjean
First Retirement: Alonso
ROTR: Alonso
IIDOTR: Massa
DBTMOTR: Hulkenberg
Minor League Premiership: Grosjean
Non-Qualifiers: None
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Re: Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby Pamphlet » 11 May 2012, 13:19

DanielPT wrote:DanielPT's Predictions
2012 Spanish Grand Prix:

4. Vettel
6. Vettel


Who needs stinkin' awards when you can finish the race twice?
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Re: Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby MinardiFan95 » 11 May 2012, 19:23

MinardiFan's Predictions
2012 Spanish Grand Prix:
1. Webber
2. Raikonnen
3. Grosjean
4. Button
5. Hamilton
6. Alonso
7. Maldonado
8. Rosberg
9. Perez
10. Massa

Pole: Vettel
Fastest lap: Raikonnen
First Retirement: Vettel and Schumacher (hit each other in turn 1 after starting 1st and 2nd)
ROTR: Schumacher
IIDOTR: Maldonado
DBTMOTR: Schumacher
Minor League Premiership: Grosjean
Non-Qualifiers: None
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Re: Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby eurobrun » 11 May 2012, 19:31

I find it funny how 3 people have predicted that Schumacher will take someone out on the first lap.
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Re: Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby mario » 11 May 2012, 19:37

2012 Spanish Grand Prix:
1. Vettel
2. Button
3. Hamilton
4. Webber
5. Raikkonen
6. Grosjean
7. Kobayashi
8. Schumacher
9. Alonso
10. Senna

Pole: Hamilton
Fastest lap: Raikkonen
First Retirement: Karthikeyan
ROTR: Toro Rosso
IIDOTR: Kobayashi
DBTMOTR: Maldonado
Minor League Premiership: Grosjean
Non-Qualifiers: None
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Re: Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby DanielPT » 11 May 2012, 20:16

Pamphlet wrote:
DanielPT wrote:DanielPT's Predictions
2012 Spanish Grand Prix:

4. Vettel
6. Vettel


Who needs stinkin' awards when you can finish the race twice?


HWNSNBMdammit... The second of those was meant to be Webber. It is fixed now. That is how much I think Red Bull is equal to both its drivers.

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Re: Predicament Predictions - 2012 Spanish Grand Prix

Postby Nuppiz » 11 May 2012, 20:34

2012 Spanish Grand Prix:
1. Vettel
2. Räikkönen
3. Button
4. Webber
5. Grosjean
6. Rosberg
7. Schumacher
8. Alonso
9. Perez
10. Maldonado

Pole: Vettel
Fastest lap: Räikkönen
First Retirement: Hamilton (collision with Massa)
ROTR: Hamilton
IIDOTR: Räikkönen
DBTMOTR: Senna
Minor League Premiership: Grosjean
Non-Qualifiers: n/a
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