The Formula 1 Rejects Teams Association (F1RTA) Thread

[JeremyMcClean]

Also AndreaModa, do you have any comments regarding reintroduction of DSQ?

Yeah sounds cool, though I'd want to hear Aerond's thoughts on it too, because I'm not sure how it would interfere with the mechanics of the game. I think the only way to implement DSQs would be after each race, rather than during them, but I may be wrong.

That is true, I have no idea how to DSQ someone in the game. Obviously if the driver is a complete klutz (zimsanity?) then he might get DSQ'd after the race.

[Aerond]

Effectively, the only way to DSQ someone would be after the race, black flagging someone is impossible atm i'm afraid.

[Aerond]

I can also announce that, in the future, I´d like to port the series to rfactor 2. I haven´t done it to rfactor mainly because the dumb AI and lack of rain, but this won´t be a problem in rfactor 2, as AI drivers characteristics can be quite editable and they seem to be quite intelligent as well. With the online community, it could also happen that you can watch live the races as they happen.

Anyway, don´t become too excited about this, as it won´t happen for a couple of seasons at least.

[AndreaModa]

Effectively, the only way to DSQ someone would be after the race, black flagging someone is impossible atm i'm afraid.

That's as I thought, though if people are behind it, then I'd support an introduction of DSQs should Aerond consider them worthy of use on drivers.

I can also announce that, in the future, I´d like to port the series to rfactor 2. I haven´t done it to rfactor mainly because the dumb AI and lack of rain, but this won´t be a problem in rfactor 2, as AI drivers characteristics can be quite editable and they seem to be quite intelligent as well. With the online community, it could also happen that you can watch live the races as they happen.

Anyway, don´t become too excited about this, as it won´t happen for a couple of seasons at least.

Very interesting development! Good to hear as well because whilst I'm not bothered what platform the series is run on, I know others have raised questions about why its on GP2, so this should keep them happy!

[Wizzie]

I have mailed him (DanielPT) previously but he did not came. Anyway, that post was unnecessary.

Because of people telling me 'impatient', I shall condone my own law, that is Mecha's Law: Everything/Everyone that is inactive, that is related with the Perry McCarthy Memorial Forum, even for a short time, could be labeled by FMecha as AWOL.

Also AndreaModa, do you have any comments regarding reintroduction of DSQ?

You kindly sent me an e-mail telling me I was exceeding the maximum number of drivers that could be controlled by a single user. So, I want to offer to prospective employers the services of César Vialpando and Judd McAllister for any categories they wish.

You're still over the limit. This is exactly why Melrose thinks your F2RWRS team isn't just destined for PQ, it deserves to be there as well.

And, for the record, your impatience FMecha is really starting to get on my nerves but I like the enthusiasm all the same.

Effectively, the only way to DSQ someone would be after the race, black flagging someone is impossible atm i'm afraid.

That's as I thought, though if people are behind it, then I'd support an introduction of DSQs should Aerond consider them worthy of use on drivers.

The only person worthy of being DSQed is Tanner Jason. But it was funny as hell to watch him constantly hit people over and over and over again

[AndreaModa]

I have mailed him (DanielPT) previously but he did not came. Anyway, that post was unnecessary.

Because of people telling me 'impatient', I shall condone my own law, that is Mecha's Law: Everything/Everyone that is inactive, that is related with the Perry McCarthy Memorial Forum, even for a short time, could be labeled by FMecha as AWOL.

Also AndreaModa, do you have any comments regarding reintroduction of DSQ?

You kindly sent me an e-mail telling me I was exceeding the maximum number of drivers that could be controlled by a single user. So, I want to offer to prospective employers the services of César Vialpando and Judd McAllister for any categories they wish.

You're still over the limit. This is exactly why Melrose thinks your F2RWRS team isn't just destined for PQ, it deserves to be there as well.

Jesus so Phoenix had 8 drivers last year?! So with that announcement he's down to 6, just one to ditch please Phoenix!

[Wizzie]

You kindly sent me an e-mail telling me I was exceeding the maximum number of drivers that could be controlled by a single user. So, I want to offer to prospective employers the services of César Vialpando and Judd McAllister for any categories they wish.

You're still over the limit. This is exactly why Melrose thinks your F2RWRS team isn't just destined for PQ, it deserves to be there as well.

Jesus so Phoenix had 8 drivers last year?! So with that announcement he's down to 6, just one to ditch please Phoenix!

Actually, he's back to 7 as Judd McAllister's already signed a contract for next year with Best in the World (At absolutely sucking ) and I'm yet to meet anyone who'll be willing to become the manager of those muppets

That is unless that announcement is an offer for anyone to take over the managerial role of those drivers.

[the Masked Lapwing]

You're still over the limit. This is exactly why Melrose thinks your F2RWRS team isn't just destined for PQ, it deserves to be there as well.

Jesus so Phoenix had 8 drivers last year?! So with that announcement he's down to 6, just one to ditch please Phoenix!

Actually, he's back to 7 as Judd McAllister's already signed a contract for next year with Best in the World (At absolutely sucking ) and I'm yet to meet anyone who'll be willing to become the manager of those muppets

That is unless that announcement is an offer for anyone to take over the managerial role of those drivers.

In which case if they do switch owners he's still got 6 since Vialpondo doesn't have a race seat for next season

[Wizzie]

Jesus so Phoenix had 8 drivers last year?! So with that announcement he's down to 6, just one to ditch please Phoenix!

Actually, he's back to 7 as Judd McAllister's already signed a contract for next year with Best in the World (At absolutely sucking ) and I'm yet to meet anyone who'll be willing to become the manager of those muppets

That is unless that announcement is an offer for anyone to take over the managerial role of those drivers.

In which case if they do switch owners he's still got 6 since Vialpondo doesn't have a race seat for next season

Should have taken my suggestion of sacking both the F2RWRS muppets and getting it over with

[eurobrun]

Actually, he's back to 7 as Judd McAllister's already signed a contract for next year with Best in the World (At absolutely sucking ) and I'm yet to meet anyone who'll be willing to become the manager of those muppets

That is unless that announcement is an offer for anyone to take over the managerial role of those drivers.

In which case if they do switch owners he's still got 6 since Vialpondo doesn't have a race seat for next season

Should have taken the suggestion of sacking The Stig and getting it over with

Fixed.

I have no idea what you see in him, with the exception of one race he has been terrible all year. I would even be willing to lend you Markus Van de Schoot (who will get a superlicence by making his debut for Tropico in the last race of the year) for the whole year (unless Van de Schoot turns out to be even worse)

[Wizzie]

In which case if they do switch owners he's still got 6 since Vialpondo doesn't have a race seat for next season

Should have taken the suggestion of sacking The Stig and getting it over with

Fixed.

I have no idea what you see in him, with the exception of one race he has been terrible all year. I would even be willing to lend you Markus Van de Schoot (who will get a superlicence by making his debut for Tropico in the last race of the year) for the whole year (unless Van de Schoot turns out to be even worse)

Problem is I'm pretty sure that'll put you over the limit for next year

[eurobrun]

Should have taken the suggestion of sacking The Stig and getting it over with

Fixed.

I have no idea what you see in him, with the exception of one race he has been terrible all year. I would even be willing to lend you Markus Van de Schoot (who will get a superlicence by making his debut for Tropico in the last race of the year) for the whole year (unless Van de Schoot turns out to be even worse)

Problem is I'm pretty sure that'll put you over the limit for next year

Don't think so, I can only count 5. Battani, Glotch, Pascal, D Hamilton and Van de Schoot.

[the Masked Lapwing]

Dammit, I was about to prove Melrose wrong.

[Wizzie]

Fixed.

I have no idea what you see in him, with the exception of one race he has been terrible all year. I would even be willing to lend you Markus Van de Schoot (who will get a superlicence by making his debut for Tropico in the last race of the year) for the whole year (unless Van de Schoot turns out to be even worse)

Problem is I'm pretty sure that'll put you over the limit for next year

Don't think so, I can only count 5. Battani, Glotch, Pascal, D Hamilton and Van de Schoot.

Ah. I thought you owned both the drivers in your F3RWRS team. My bad

We're really going to need sort this mess out because I'm absolutely lost now

[Wizzie]

Dammit, I was about to prove Melrose wrong.

And exactly how long do you plan on staying at MRT again?

[pasta_maldonado]

I can also announce that, in the future, I´d like to port the series to rfactor 2. I haven´t done it to rfactor mainly because the dumb AI and lack of rain, but this won´t be a problem in rfactor 2, as AI drivers characteristics can be quite editable and they seem to be quite intelligent as well. With the online community, it could also happen that you can watch live the races as they happen.

Anyway, don´t become too excited about this, as it won´t happen for a couple of seasons at least.

The way rFactor 2 works is a lot different than how GP2 works. I have the rfactor 2 demo on my computer and I can tel you that you need a brilliant computer to run it. My machine runs rFactor 1 good, but it struggles with rf2 even on the lower settings!

[Phoenix]

OK, I can trade in Niko Bellic and Akira Yamamura for any other driver owned by an user who is above the driver limit. Does this leave me with only 5 controlled drivers?

[Wizzie]

OK, I can trade in Niko Bellic and Akira Yamamura for any other driver owned by an user who is above the driver limit. Does this leave me with only 5 controlled drivers?

Please explain what exactly you're trying to do and what the hell Yamamura has to do with anything.

[Phoenix]

OK, I can trade in Niko Bellic and Akira Yamamura for any other driver owned by an user who is above the driver limit. Does this leave me with only 5 controlled drivers?

Please explain what exactly you're trying to do and what the hell Yamamura has to do with anything.

Yamamura is one of my drivers at the ROLFS series. And I want to get rid of the drivers I believe have less development potential. Yes, I'm keeping Tanner Jason, don't look at me like that

[eurobrun]

OK, I can trade in Niko Bellic and Akira Yamamura for any other driver owned by an user who is above the driver limit. Does this leave me with only 5 controlled drivers?

Please explain what exactly you're trying to do and what the hell Yamamura has to do with anything.

Yamamura is one of my drivers at the ROLFS series. And I want to get rid of the drivers I believe have less development potential. Yes, I'm keeping Tanner Jason, don't look at me like that

RoLFS doesn't count to the 5 driver limit, I know this because if it did I would be completely screwed.

[Wizzie]

Please explain what exactly you're trying to do and what the hell Yamamura has to do with anything.

Yamamura is one of my drivers at the ROLFS series. And I want to get rid of the drivers I believe have less development potential. Yes, I'm keeping Tanner Jason, don't look at me like that

RoLFS doesn't count to the 5 driver limit, I know this because if it did I would be completely screwed.

So would the rest of us, young Jason

[Stramala]

Yamamura is one of my drivers at the ROLFS series. And I want to get rid of the drivers I believe have less development potential. Yes, I'm keeping Tanner Jason, don't look at me like that

RoLFS doesn't count to the 5 driver limit, I know this because if it did I would be completely screwed.

So would the rest of us, young Jason

I would be so incredibly screwed you can't believe it. Olafur Ragnar Hannesson, Nobushige Fukuda, Marcel Agyemang-Badu, Martin McGovern, all have race drivers! And it could go up to five if Ilmor Winton Racing's main driver gets a DSQ and Ragnar Larsen takes his place! Man, it looked like I would be screwed in RWRS too until pasta assumed control of David Koczo...

[pasta_maldonado]

Man, it looked like I would be screwed in RWRS too until pasta assumed control of David Koczo...

Always here to help I have 3 drivers in RWRS (David Koczo, Martin van der Maeyede and Takuma Taki) along with 3 in ROLFS (Andrea Bianchi, Martyn Rietacher, and Helio Hernandez)

[FMecha]

Effectively, the only way to DSQ someone would be after the race, black flagging someone is impossible atm i'm afraid.

That's as I thought, though if people are behind it, then I'd support an introduction of DSQs should Aerond consider them worthy of use on drivers.

Aerond, I want you to check tristan's GP2 championship thread, where DSQs has occured twice in that series (thrice if you count Reiko Megumi's DSQ following pressure from Andreas Stefano of Ferrari).

There, DSQ's works as the following: the organizer looks at the footage (quick replay/highlights), and notices if there is something awry with a driver. If that is the case, the driver will be either disqualified from the race and/or receive (sometimes suspended) race ban(s) for one or more race(s). Further violations after these sanctions could lead to a more serious sanction: complete DSQ (think MSC 1997/Tyrell 1984) or revocation of super licence (translation: the driver is thrown out from the series). Note that complete DSQ or revocation of super-licence has yet to happen.

I can also announce that, in the future, I´d like to port the series to rfactor 2. I haven´t done it to rfactor mainly because the dumb AI and lack of rain, but this won´t be a problem in rfactor 2, as AI drivers characteristics can be quite editable and they seem to be quite intelligent as well. With the online community, it could also happen that you can watch live the races as they happen.

Problem is, many of us are rejectful in designing liveries for anything but GP2.

[pasta_maldonado]

Problem is, many of us are rejectful in designing liveries for anything but GP2.

I'm always prepared to help out with liveries, and kostas is a bit of a liver design master as well

[eurobrun]

Problem is, many of us are rejectful in designing liveries for anything but GP2.

I'm always prepared to help out with liveries, and kostas is a bit of a liver design master as well

I'm rejectful at designing liveries for anything. End of story.

[MinardiFan95]

Problem is, many of us are rejectful in designing liveries for anything but GP2.

I'm always prepared to help out with liveries, and kostas is a bit of a liver design master as well

...and I've already half-made a 2015 Simpson Motorsports livery for the current generic F1 car in rFactor 2 (though I'm not going to show it yet... you'll just have to wait for a few days )

[pasta_maldonado]

Problem is, many of us are rejectful in designing liveries for anything but GP2.

I'm always prepared to help out with liveries, and kostas is a bit of a liver design master as well

...and I've already half-made a 2015 Simpson Motorsports livery for the current generic F1 car in rFactor 2 (though I'm not going to show it yet... you'll just have to wait for a few days )

I'm thinking of starting a Rejectful Livery design (Or not) thread, maybe post it in there?

[MinardiFan95]

I'm always prepared to help out with liveries, and kostas is a bit of a liver design master as well

...and I've already half-made a 2015 Simpson Motorsports livery for the current generic F1 car in rFactor 2 (though I'm not going to show it yet... you'll just have to wait for a few days )

I'm thinking of starting a Rejectful Livery design (Or not) thread, maybe post it in there?

Well, at the moment it's a bit rejectful (some things don't exactly line up and the driver uses the same texture as the car) so it could go in that thread, but I've already got a plan for what I'm going to use it for...

[Phoenix]

RoLFS doesn't count to the 5 driver limit, I know this because if it did I would be completely screwed.

Then scratch Yamamura from the list

[Nuppiz]

Problem is, many of us are rejectful in designing liveries for anything but GP2.

I'm always prepared to help out with liveries, and kostas is a bit of a liver design master as well

I'm rejectful at designing liveries for anything. End of story.

If there's a good template available, I could do good as well. At least, that's what I think my RoLFS liveries look like

FYI I'm having a good mobile connection at the moment, which effectively means that I can browse and post on the forums nicely, but anything else is out of question.

RoLFS doesn't count to the 5 driver limit, I know this because if it did I would be completely screwed.

So would the rest of us, young Jason

All part of my masterplan to create more interest on the series.

[SuperAguri]

I like to propose for the next meeting that team owners are limited to running in two of the FRWRS championships. Although there are not many owners that run in all three disciplines I feel that the waiting lists mean that like the 5 driver limit we have, we should have a 2 team limit. There are not many teams that do have 3, Jones, Simpson, Scuderia Alitalia, Kingfisher, Aeroracing and I believe DanielPT has Sunshine and the two Portugese teams in F2 and F3.

These teams should drop one of their teams or allow another member to run it as a second party to run as a satelite team. I know that the waiting lists do include people that already have two teams but there are others that are waiting too.

I also like to propose that if a team owner goes AWOL for 2 races (assuming that this would be a month or six weeks) that a caretaker can take over the running of the team with an AWOL for 4 races meaning they would lose their team. The game is better when drivers and team owners comment and chat.

[Wizzie]

I like to propose for the next meeting that team owners are limited to running in two of the FRWRS championships. Although there are not many owners that run in all three disciplines I feel that the waiting lists mean that like the 5 driver limit we have, we should have a 2 team limit. There are not many teams that do have 3, Jones, Simpson, Scuderia Alitalia, Kingfisher, Aeroracing and I believe DanielPT has Sunshine and the two Portugese teams in F2 and F3.

These teams should drop one of their teams or allow another member to run it as a second party to run as a satelite team. I know that the waiting lists do include people that already have two teams but there are others that are waiting too.

I also like to propose that if a team owner goes AWOL for 2 races (assuming that this would be a month or six weeks) that a caretaker can take over the running of the team with an AWOL for 4 races meaning they would lose their team. The game is better when drivers and team owners comment and chat.

MRT are categorically against the first proposal for the simple reason that it would cause chaos with the RWRS as that'll mean a dozen or so teams up shite creek without a paddle. The second proposal however interests us but MRT will only accept that proposal on the basis that the original team owner have the option to appoint a caretaker in advance and the AWOL limit is increased from 2 races to about 6 or 7.

[Stramala]

I like to propose for the next meeting that team owners are limited to running in two of the FRWRS championships. Although there are not many owners that run in all three disciplines I feel that the waiting lists mean that like the 5 driver limit we have, we should have a 2 team limit. There are not many teams that do have 3, Jones, Simpson, Scuderia Alitalia, Kingfisher, Aeroracing and I believe DanielPT has Sunshine and the two Portugese teams in F2 and F3.

These teams should drop one of their teams or allow another member to run it as a second party to run as a satelite team. I know that the waiting lists do include people that already have two teams but there are others that are waiting too.

I also like to propose that if a team owner goes AWOL for 2 races (assuming that this would be a month or six weeks) that a caretaker can take over the running of the team with an AWOL for 4 races meaning they would lose their team. The game is better when drivers and team owners comment and chat.

Alasdair Lindsay would like to tell whoever came up with this idea to "shove it where the sun don't shine". That would be an emphatic no from Scuderia Alitalia, then.

[AdrianSutil]

Yep, Kingfisher Racing disagree completely with point number 1.

However, point 2 should be brought in before the next season starts. The_Lukas is the worst offender at that. He posts something at the beginning of the season, again at about round 10 and then at seasons end to re-sign his drivers.

[Nuppiz]

However, point 2 should be brought in before the next season starts. The_Lukas is the worst offender at that. He posts something at the beginning of the season, again at about round 10 and then at seasons end to re-sign his drivers.

Agreed, I nearly kicked him out of RoLFS after he had not posted in its thread despite clearly visiting the forums quite a few times after his latest post there, only for him to come and post literally hours before I would've put that plan into motion. I wouldn't have kicked him out just due to inactivity, but because he hadn't upgraded his cars in ages despite having more than enough funds for that, they had become moving roadblocks causing frustration to other teams.

A set of rules regarding inactivity which would cover all the major series is a very good idea, as it could also potentially quicken the amount of time it takes for people on the waiting list to get teams of their own. There should also be a clause for when somebody knows they might not be able to visit the forums for an extended period of time, eg. by being on a holiday (like me at the moment, although thanks to the wonders of mobile internet connections I'm doing quite fine at the moment!). By reporting from this early enough, he/she can avoid having his/her team(s) being lost completely, and instead nominate someone to take care of his/her team until he/she is able to do so again him/herself.

[FMecha]

I like to propose for the next meeting that team owners are limited to running in two of the FRWRS championships. Although there are not many owners that run in all three disciplines I feel that the waiting lists mean that like the 5 driver limit we have, we should have a 2 team limit. There are not many teams that do have 3, Jones, Simpson, Scuderia Alitalia, Kingfisher, Aeroracing and I believe DanielPT has Sunshine and the two Portugese teams in F2 and F3.

These teams should drop one of their teams or allow another member to run it as a second party to run as a satelite team. I know that the waiting lists do include people that already have two teams but there are others that are waiting too.

I also like to propose that if a team owner goes AWOL for 2 races (assuming that this would be a month or six weeks) that a caretaker can take over the running of the team with an AWOL for 4 races meaning they would lose their team. The game is better when drivers and team owners comment and chat.

A: No. That would go against the team ladder (senior < quasi-junior < junior).

B: Sending him/her warning e-mail is the first step. If they did not response, give them a grace period of 5 races, or else.

[Aerond]

I only see people getting their teams taken over in extreme cases. I´m happy with just asking when a new season begins, and if the owner is not any more interested or doesn´t answer to just give the entry to the next one in the entry list, who can either start where the previous team owner left or start from scratch.

[Shizuka]

Yep, Kingfisher Racing disagree completely with point number 1.

However, point 2 should be brought in before the next season starts. The_Lukas is the worst offender at that. He posts something at the beginning of the season, again at about round 10 and then at seasons end to re-sign his drivers.

And he doesn't seem to be reading the topics at least. I don't post regularly, but I keep an eye on the happenings.

[Warren Hughes]

While I understand the justification behind these proposals, I disagree with both. Although I have no plans to join the F2RWRS waiting list any time soon, I don't think people should be limited if they want to have a presence in every series.

As for taking people's teams or drivers off them, I'm the guy who's still not entirely happy that David Koczo is no longer controlled by QuickYoda