Your favourite reject team of all time?

[eagleash]

I am shocked and saddened that neither

1. Coloni with their fantastic yellow and green colours are mentioned (Btw the FC188 car driven by Pierre Henri Raphanel is actually for sale at the moment) nor
2. EuroBrun with their ever changing colour scheme and Oscar Larrauri

are mentioned. Shame!

I fear from some of the suggestions that Eagleash and I are the only ones over 30...

Yep! Well over in my case as has been documented before.

It has to be Connew, the guy built the thing in his garden shed basically; got it qualified in the hands of Francois Migault in one race.

I don't know if it has been posted here, but on this page is the full story: http://www.axos.nl/retrorace/temp/The%2 ... 0Story.htm
Reading this makes me add my vote to Connew.

Brilliant story. Thanks for posting.

[Pieman]

It has to be Connew, the guy built the thing in his garden shed basically; got it qualified in the hands of Francois Migault in one race.

I don't know if it has been posted here, but on this page is the full story: http://www.axos.nl/retrorace/temp/The%2 ... 0Story.htm
Reading this makes me add my vote to Connew.

That is a superb read - I love this quote...

A few days later, in daylight, we pushed the car out onto the public highway again, and into the car park of the local library, where there was a nice background for some more photos.

Epic.

[eagleash]

Epic indeed.

It was so different back in the day. Even the top teams often struggled for cash, slept in the rigs begged parts etc....

In many ways it was much more fun.

GLTL & Sir Jackie brought the "big business" idea to F1.....Bernie was just a failed driver/sometime entrant in those days!!!!!!

[CarlosFerreira]

Simtek it is. They had the coolest name ever - any arguments there? - great livery, promise, tech capacity... you just get the feeling it could all have been so much different, had there been money! Besides, the tragic bit surrounding Ratzenberger is still deeply engraved in my memory, I saw it live, sitting in my grandma's bed.

[rffp]

I have to say Osella. They scored 0 point from 1985 to 1990, that is certainly a benchmark in rejectdom.
But the sight of Nicola Larini racing like a bat out of hell in the wet Montreal circuit in 1989 and running as high as 3rd place before the usual unreliability issues made him drop out of the race was something awesome. Only in the last Belgian GP, I saw something of the same magnitude.

[eagleash]

Simtek it is. They had the coolest name ever - any arguments there? - great livery, promise, tech capacity... you just get the feeling it could all have been so much different, had there been money! Besides, the tragic bit surrounding Ratzenberger is still deeply engraved in my memory, I saw it live, sitting in my grandma's bed.

Begging for a "Wayne Rooney" joke.

(Sorry totally inappropriate, but couldn't resist it)

[CarlosFerreira]

Simtek it is. They had the coolest name ever - any arguments there? - great livery, promise, tech capacity... you just get the feeling it could all have been so much different, had there been money! Besides, the tragic bit surrounding Ratzenberger is still deeply engraved in my memory, I saw it live, sitting in my grandma's bed.

Begging for a "Wayne Rooney" joke.

(Sorry totally inappropriate, but couldn't resist it)

I'm afraid you're gonna have to be make it clearer, my friend. Despite being a proud Mancunian since last September, and reading about the city's history, all I know about the gent in question is he kicks balls for a living.

[Python]

1. Coloni with their fantastic yellow and green colours are mentioned (Btw the FC188 car driven by Pierre Henri Raphanel is actually for sale at the moment) nor
2. EuroBrun with their ever changing colour scheme and Oscar Larrauri

Speaking of cars for sale

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/122770.htm

That's about $157,710. I have about $40 dollars in my bank account. Only $157,670 to go.

[eagleash]

Simtek it is. They had the coolest name ever - any arguments there? - great livery, promise, tech capacity... you just get the feeling it could all have been so much different, had there been money! Besides, the tragic bit surrounding Ratzenberger is still deeply engraved in my memory, I saw it live, sitting in my grandma's bed.

Begging for a "Wayne Rooney" joke.

(Sorry totally inappropriate, but couldn't resist it)

I'm afraid you're gonna have to be make it clearer, my friend. Despite being a proud Mancunian since last September, and reading about the city's history, all I know about the gent in question is he kicks balls for a living.

He allegedly had an affair with an older woman. (I did say it was inappropriate). Is sometimes referred to as
Grannysh*****.

[CarlosFerreira]

He allegedly had an affair with an older woman. (I did say it was inappropriate). Is sometimes referred to as
Grannysh*****.

Oh dear. This has just made even happier that I don't watch football...

[shinji]

It has to be Connew, the guy built the thing in his garden shed basically; got it qualified in the hands of Francois Migault in one race.

I don't know if it has been posted here, but on this page is the full story: http://www.axos.nl/retrorace/temp/The%2 ... 0Story.htm
Reading this makes me add my vote to Connew.

Really enjoyed reading that.

[eagleash]

He allegedly had an affair with an older woman. (I did say it was inappropriate). Is sometimes referred to as
Grannysh*****.

Oh dear. This has just made even happier that I don't watch football...

There's always Cricket.

Does anyone else think that the Connew was also a pretty good looking F1 car?

[shinji]

He allegedly had an affair with an older woman. (I did say it was inappropriate). Is sometimes referred to as
Grannysh*****.

Oh dear. This has just made even happier that I don't watch football...

There's always Cricket.

Does anyone else think that the Connew was also a pretty good looking F1 car?

Yep. Good going considering everything.

[eagleash]

I'm glad I threw the Connew name into this one, although I have banged on about it before!

[Nuppiz]

1. Coloni with their fantastic yellow and green colours are mentioned (Btw the FC188 car driven by Pierre Henri Raphanel is actually for sale at the moment) nor
2. EuroBrun with their ever changing colour scheme and Oscar Larrauri

Speaking of cars for sale

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/122770.htm

That's about $157,710. I have about $40 dollars in my bank account. Only $157,670 to go.

And about 115,060 €. Great, I'm only missing 108,500 euros!

[Phoenix]

He allegedly had an affair with an older woman. (I did say it was inappropriate). Is sometimes referred to as
Grannysh*****.

Oh dear. This has just made even happier that I don't watch football...

There's always Cricket.

Does anyone else think that the Connew was also a pretty good looking F1 car?

The livery, at least.

[TeamTipper]

I have to say Forti as they were the true last very small privateer team. Super Aguri my second best team but remember they were really a Second Honda Team.

[eagleash]

I would also like to mention Tecno, Token (AKA Lyncar) & Maki.

[Phoenix]

I would also like to mention Tecno, Token (AKA Lyncar) & Maki.

Or Kojima (only contested the Japanese GPs of 1976 and 1977, with the first and only well and truly Japanese crew; they even used Bridgestones much before anyone else): their driver Masahiro Hasemi scored the fastest lap at the 1976 Japanese GP

[Faustus]

I fear from some of the suggestions that Eagleash and I are the only ones over 30...

+1

[Faustus]

I know Harri raced for the Ascari team alongside Klaas Zwart and Phil Andrews in the BOSS single seater formula in the early 2000s. The series was for a mixture of single seaters including several reject F1 cars (is this series still going?) and if I remember rightly, the Ascaris bore a strange resemblance both in shape and livery to the 1994 Pacifics. Maybe there's something to go on there, or perhaps just coincidence.

The Ascaris were Benettons which Klaas Zwart bought as a wholesale lot from Benetton when they decided to have a clear out. I know a guy who was a mechanic with them and in their sportscar and Le Mans campaigns as well. In total, they had 9 chassis, although never more than 4 were running at any time. The chassis ranged from 1993 to 1997 and ran Judd V10s, because for obvious reasons they couldn't get Renault V10s and factory Ford V8 engines. Other than that, the cars were pretty much as they ran in F1 races. The gearbox had been slightly modified, mostly in the software, to remove the pneumatic actuation and make it cheaper to run.
No one really knows where the devil Zwart got his money from, but there were persistent rumours of less-than-savoury activities.

[f1-gast]

Life racing, F1RST racing

[Waris]

I too must say that I love the Connew story. It comes from a time when there were real stories in F1, I miss that nowadays, everything is way too corporate and you can only get into F1 with a budget of millions of pounds. That's why I like teams like Stefan so much, they are the modern privateers, minnows who work really hard to get in F1 and struggle against many difficulties. That's why I think it's weird that they're being criticized for being like that by the same people who praise teams from, say, the 70s for the exact same reasons. Isn't it what we love so much about F1, what F1 Rejects is all about?

[eagleash]

I too must say that I love the Connew story. It comes from a time when there were real stories in F1, I miss that nowadays, everything is way too corporate and you can only get into F1 with a budget of millions of pounds. That's why I like teams like Stefan so much, they are the modern privateers, minnows who work really hard to get in F1 and struggle against many difficulties. That's why I think it's weird that they're being criticized for being like that by the same people who praise teams from, say, the 70s for the exact same reasons. Isn't it what we love so much about F1, what F1 Rejects is all about?

Connew has long been a favoutite of mine.

Much as I want Stefan in this year, I don't really think of them as a privateer in the same way. after all they seem to be at the moment Toyota by another name & have state backing apparently.

If they do get in can we expect them to be "recalled" shortly afterwards?

[Faustus]

It has to be Connew, the guy built the thing in his garden shed basically; got it qualified in the hands of Francois Migault in one race.

I don't know if it has been posted here, but on this page is the full story: http://www.axos.nl/retrorace/temp/The%2 ... 0Story.htm
Reading this makes me add my vote to Connew.

Really enjoyed reading that.

Just revisited this thread and found this link. Really interesting article, well worth reading.

[Faustus]

I know Harri raced for the Ascari team alongside Klaas Zwart and Phil Andrews in the BOSS single seater formula in the early 2000s. The series was for a mixture of single seaters including several reject F1 cars (is this series still going?) and if I remember rightly, the Ascaris bore a strange resemblance both in shape and livery to the 1994 Pacifics. Maybe there's something to go on there, or perhaps just coincidence.

The Ascaris were Benettons which Klaas Zwart bought as a wholesale lot from Benetton when they decided to have a clear out. I know a guy who was a mechanic with them and in their sportscar and Le Mans campaigns as well. In total, they had 9 chassis, although never more than 4 were running at any time. The chassis ranged from 1993 to 1997 and ran Judd V10s, because for obvious reasons they couldn't get Renault V10s and factory Ford V8 engines. Other than that, the cars were pretty much as they ran in F1 races. The gearbox had been slightly modified, mostly in the software, to remove the pneumatic actuation and make it cheaper to run.
No one really knows where the devil Zwart got his money from, but there were persistent rumours of less-than-savoury activities.

I have since found out from a bloke at work that Klaas Zwart made his money through his former majority shareholding in an oil and gas industry company called Weatherford, where he pioneered some different method of packing and deploying oil well drilling equipment. He sold his share in the company for an obscene amount of money.

[Verde]

This topic has to be renamed ONYX.

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ONYX ONYX ONYX

[CarlosFerreira]

This topic has to be renamed ONYX.

Brilliant program that calculates profits you can have on NYSE + bathplug crazy Belgian marxist economist that wants to destroy capitalism but also have some profit the same time a la George Soros + blue with white and pink stripes livery + Lehto + Foitek + Ken Anderson + podium at Estoril.

ONYX ONYX ONYX

Win!