Snake points alternative championship

[watka]

Unfortunately, Amon won't be getting a third in 1973...

[Bleu]

1973
Denny Hulme 41 (2 wins, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Emerson Fittipaldi 33 (2 wins)
Carlos Reutemann 32 (2 wins, 2 3rd)
Jackie Stewart 32 (2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Francois Cevert 31 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Jacky Ickx 28 (1 win, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Peter Revson 27 (2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Jean-Pierre Beltoise 22 (3 2nd, 1 3rd)
Clay Regazzoni 18 (2 wins)
James Hunt 18 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Wilson Fittipaldi 15 (1 win, 1 2nd)
George Follmer 12 (1 win)
Ronnie Peterson 11 (1 4th)
Chris Amon 9 (1 win)
Gijs van Lennep 9 (1 win)
Howden Ganley 9 (1 win)
Arturo Merzario 8 (2 3rd)
Carlos Pace 7 (1 3rd)
Niki Lauda 6 (1 2nd)
Andrea de Adamich 4 (1 3rd)
Jackie Oliver 3 (1 4th)


Both Tyrrell drivers were within chance to title until the final round, where Cevert crashed fatally and Stewart withdrew as a result.

[Bleu]

1974
Denny Hulme 48 (5 wins)
Patrick Depailler 39 (3 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Clay Regazzoni 33 (1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Jody Scheckter 28 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Emerson Fittipaldi 27 (1 2nd, 2 3rd)
John Watson 19 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Ronnie Peterson 19 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Jacky Ickx 18 (2 2nd)
Mike Hailwood 17 (1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Carlos Reutemann 15 (1 win)
Jean-Pierre Beltoise 14 (2 2nd)
Niki Lauda 14 (1 2nd)
Arturo Merzario 13 (1 win)
James Hunt 13 (1 3rd)
Carlos Pace 12 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Hans-Joachim Stuck 10 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Graham Hill 9 (1 win)
Tom Pryce 9 (1 win)
Vittorio Brambilla 9 (1 win)
Jean-Pierre Jarier 9 (1 2nd)

Third title for Hulme and beautiful end to his career.

[James1978]

That's four in a row for New Zealand!!!!

And another alternative championship which produces a win for Howden Ganley.

[FullMetalJack]

Michele Alboreto would be unluckiest driver of the year in 1992, didn't he come 7th about 6 times.

[dr-baker]

1973
George Follmer 12 (1 win)

I've never heard of this guy before. And he gets a win in this alternate universe?!

[tommykl]

1973
George Follmer 12 (1 win)

I've never heard of this guy before. And he gets a win in this alternate universe?!

IIRC, he scored Shadow's first podium, then one more point, then did squat the rest of the year.

[James1978]

And I remember this being commented on in another alternative championship, but Tim Schenken (whoever he is) wins a race here too. It was the first elimination one I think, when I read his name I thought "who?"!

Is he the early 70s equivalent of someone like, say, Pedro De Rosa, since I thought it was mad that De La Rosa won a race in 2001 in the Jaguar on "Backwards Elimination"?!

[Bleu]

1975
Niki Lauda 38,5 (2 wins*, 2 2nd)
Tom Pryce 32,5 (3 wins, 1 3rd)
Jochen Mass 29,5 (2 wins, 1 3rd*)
James Hunt 29 (1 win, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Patrick Depailler 28 (1 win, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Clay Regazzoni 21 (1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Carlos Reutemann 20,5 (2 3rd)
Carlos Pace 16 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Jody Scheckter 15 (1 win)
Emerson Fittipaldi 14 (1 3rd)
Ronnie Peterson 13 (2 2nd*, 1 3rd)
Vittorio Brambilla 12,5 (1 win, 1 2nd*)
Mark Donohue 12 (2 2nd)
Mario Andretti 10 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Tony Brise 9 (1 win)
Gijs van Lennep 9 (1 win)
Alan Jones 6 (1 2nd)
Lella Lombardi 4,5 (1 win*)
Jean-Pierre Jarier 2 (1 3rd*)
Jacques Laffite 2 (1 5th)
Jacky Ickx 1 (1 5th*)

Amazingly, Lauda is champion in this alternative version too!

Spanish and Austrian GPs worth of half points. But Lella Lombardi wins a race, although she gets only half points.

[dr-baker]

Finally, an alternative championship that has a lady-winner!

[James1978]

That must be the first time the real champion has won this alternative championship, must be difficult to do!

[Phoenix]

I would want to formally impugnate the results for the 1975 championship.

[Bleu]

1976
Jody Scheckter 48 (1 win, 3 2nd, 3 3rd)
Jochen Mass 46 (2 wins, 3 2nd, 1 3rd)
Clay Regazzoni 31 (2 wins, 1 2nd)
Mario Andretti 28 (1 win, 2 2nd)
Emerson Fittipaldi 27 (1 win)
Patrick Depailler 25 (1 win)
John Watson 22 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Gunnar Nilsson 21 (1 win, 1 2nd)
James Hunt 21 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Niki Lauda 19 (1 3rd)
Carlos Pace 17 (1 win, 2 3rd)
Alan Jones 16 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Jacques Laffite 16 (2 3rd)
Hans-Joachim Stuck 14 (1 2nd)
Tom Pryce 11 (2 3rd)
Ronnie Peterson 10 (1 win)
Rolf Stommelen 9 (1 win)
Vittorio Brambilla 9 (1 win)
Chris Amon 6 (1 2nd)
Carlos Reutemann 4 (1 3rd)

[James1978]

Apart from Hunt and Lauda being down in mid-table, that 1976 championship actually looks quite close to reality!

[Bleu]

1977
Carlos Reutemann 49 (3 wins, 2 3rd)
Jochen Mass 36 (1 win, 1 2nd, 4 3rd)
Hans-Joachim Stuck 30 (2 wins, 1 2nd)
Niki Lauda 28 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Mario Andretti 27 (1 win, 2 2nd)
Alan Jones 27 (1 win, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Clay Regazzoni 21 (1 win, 2 2nd)
Patrick Tambay 21 (1 win, 2 2nd)
Gunnar Nilsson 20 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Vittorio Brambilla 19 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Jody Scheckter 19 (4 4th)
Ronnie Peterson 18 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 4th)
Jacques Laffite 18 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 5th)
Emerson Fittipaldi 18 (1 2nd, 3 3rd)
John Watson 17 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Patrick Depailler 16 (2 3rd)
James Hunt 12 (1 3rd)
Renzo Zorzi 9 (1 win)
Jean-Pierre Jarier 9 (1 win)
Riccardo Patrese 9 (1 win)
Carlos Pace 2 (1 5th)

[James1978]

Poor old Jochen Mass has come close on loads of these alternative championships (this, no real champions and backwards/forwards elimination) but never actually won one IIRC!

[Bleu]

1978
Didier Pironi 39 (3 wins, 2 2nd)
Patrick Tambay 37 (3 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Jacques Laffite 34 (4 2nd, 1 3rd)
Emerson Fittipaldi 31 (1 win, 2 2nd, 2 3rd)
John Watson 26 (1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Riccardo Patrese 24 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Jody Scheckter 23 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Ronnie Peterson 23 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Mario Andretti 21 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Patrick Depailler 21 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Gilles Villeneuve 17 (1 win, 1 3rd)
James Hunt 16 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Niki Lauda 14 (2 4th)
Carlos Reutemann 13 (3 4th)
Clay Regazzoni 12 (2 2nd)
Alan Jones 12 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Hector Rebaque 9 (1 win)
Vittorio Brambilla 9 (1 win)
Derek Daly 9 (1 win)
Hans-Joachim Stuck 6 (1 2nd)
Jean-Pierre Jabouille 4 (1 3rd)

[Bleu]

1979
John Watson 44 (3 wins, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Jean-Pierre Jarier 36 (2 wins, 2 2nd)
Jody Scheckter 35 (40)(1 win, 1 2nd, 4 3rd)
Jochen Mass 27 (3 wins)
Didier Pironi 25 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Clay Regazzoni 23 (26) (1 win, 1 2nd)
Mario Andretti 23 (2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Patrick Depailler 18 (19) (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Rene Arnoux 16 (1 win)
Carlos Reutemann 16 (20) (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Gilles Villeneuve 16 (17) (1 2nd)
Jacky Ickx 15 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Niki Lauda 13 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Jacques Laffite 13 (3 4th)
Alan Jones 10 (11) (1 3rd)
Emerson Fittipaldi 9 (1 win)
Hans-Joachim Stuck 6 (1 2nd)
Riccardo Patrese 6 (1 2nd)
Elio de Angelis 4 (1 3rd)
Nelson Piquet 4 (1 3rd)
Jean-Pierre Jabouille 1 (1 6th)

Only half of the races are counted so lots of dropped scores here. No effect on title however.

[James1978]

Poor old Jabouille really suffers there, it's highly unusual for someone's only points in reality to be a win, therefore becoming one measly point in this - same will happen in 1980 too!

[Bleu]

1980
Didier Pironi 34 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Carlos Reutemann 34(38) (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Alain Prost 33 (3 wins, 1 2nd)
Gilles Villeneuve 30 (2 wins, 2 2nd)
Nelson Piquet 28 (1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Jacques Laffite 21 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Elio de Angelis 19 (1 win, 2 3rd)
Jean-Pierre Jarier 18 (3 2nd)
Alan Jones 16 (17) (2 4th)
Jochen Mass 13 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Emerson Fittipaldi 12 (1 win)
Bruno Giacomelli 12 (2 2nd)
Riccardo Patrese 11 (1 win)
Mario Andretti 9 (1 win)
Hector Rebaque 9 (1 win)
Keke Rosberg 9 (1 2nd)
John Watson 8 (2 3rd)
Derek Daly 8 (2 3rd)
Jody Scheckter 6 (1 2nd)
Jean-Pierre Jabouille 1 (1 6th)

Close. Poor Reutemann who suffers from dropped scores rule. Therefore it's Pironi who takes second title.

Next we go to the years which James1978 has predicted in page 1.

[Bleu]

1981
Elio de Angelis 55 (3 wins, 4 2nd, 1 3rd)
Nelson Piquet 35 (1 win, 2 2nd)
Jacques Laffite 33 (2 wins)
Eddie Cheever 31 (1 win, 3 2nd, 1 3rd)
John Watson 26 (2 wins)
Carlos Reutemann 24 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Didier Pironi 22 (3 2nd, 1 3rd)
Alan Jones 19 (2 3rd)
Hector Rebaque 18 (1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Nigel Mansell 16 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Marc Surer 13 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Rene Arnoux 12 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Alain Prost 10 (1 4th)
Patrick Tambay 9 (1 win)
Andrea de Cesaris 9 (1 win)
Slim Borgudd 9 (1 win)
Eliseo Salazar 9 (1 win)
Gilles Villeneuve 9 (1 3rd)
Bruno Giacomelli 7 (1 3rd)
Riccardo Patrese 5 (1 4th)
Mario Andretti 4 (1 3rd)

Easy win for de Angelis.

[James1978]

One out of 30.

[Bleu]

1982
Derek Daly 36 (2 wins, 3 2nd)
Keke Rosberg 35 (3 2nd, 1 3rd)
Elio de Angelis 34 (1 win, 2 2nd, 3 3rd)
Michele Alboreto 32 (1 win, 1 2nd, 4 3rd)
John Watson 31 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Didier Pironi 22 (1 win)
Alain Prost 19 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Niki Lauda 19 (1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Mauro Baldi 18 (2 wins)
Eddie Cheever 17 (1 win)
Marc Surer 15 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Patrick Tambay 14 (2 3rd)
Nelson Piquet 13 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Andrea de Cesaris 12 (1 win)
Jacques Laffite 12 (1 win)
RIccardo Patrese 12 (1 2nd)
Eliseo Salazar 9 (1 win)
Chico Serra 9 (1 win)
Nigel Mansell 7 (1 3rd)
Rene Arnoux 7 (1 4th)
Manfred Winkelhock 6 (1 2nd)
Jean-Pierre Jarier 6 (1 2nd)
Bruno Giacomelli 6 (1 2nd)
Gilles Villeneuve 3 (1 4th)
Mario Andretti 3 (1 4th)
Carlos Reutemann 2 (1 5th)

Interesting end. Williams gets 1-2 in Las Vegas finale and claim first two positions in the championship. Daly had driven first three races for Theodore (no points) and missed Imola boycott race before moving to Williams.

[Phoenix]

Good to see the actual WC missing it by a single point, being defeated by his team mate

[shinji]

G'wan Derek.

[James1978]

Derek Daly?????

My goodness I did NOT see that one coming! I said Alboreto for my prediction and he's only 4th. I didn't even consider Daly due to the few occasions he scored points on, but I guess they were all 5ths and 6ths........

[Bleu]

1983
Jacques Laffite 41 (3 wins, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Keke Rosberg 29 (3 2nd, 2 3rd)
Patrick Tambay 29 (1 2nd, 3 3rd)
John Watson 28 (1 win, 2 2nd)
Marc Surer 24 (2 wins, 1 2nd)
Eddie Cheever 24 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Niki Lauda 23 (2 wins)
Derek Warwick 23 (1 win, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Nelson Piquet 23 (2 3rd)
Nigel Mansell 22 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Alain Prost 21 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Rene Arnoux 19 (1 2nd)
Mauro Baldi 15 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Michele Alboreto 10 (1 win)
Johnny Cecotto 9 (1 win)
Bruno Giacomelli 9 (1 win)
Andrea de Cesaris 8 (1 3rd)
Danny Sullivan 6 (1 2nd)
Elio de Angelis 6 (1 2nd)
Riccardo Patrese 4 (1 4th)

No 5th place awarded at Brazil following Rosberg's disqualification. Another Williams 1-2, and interestingly Piquet beats Prost by two points as he did in real life, although here it wasn't for the championship.

[Bleu]

1984
Elio de Angelis 45 (4 2nd*, 3 3rd)
Rene Arnoux 42,5 (2 wins, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Nigel Mansell 28 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Ayrton Senna 25 (2 wins)
Patrick Tambay 23 (1 win, 2 2nd)
Michele Alboreto 22,5 (1 win*, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Thierry Boutsen 21 (1 win, 2 2nd)
Keke Rosberg 18 (1 win, 2 3rd*)
Alain Prost 17,5 (1 2nd)
Nelson Piquet 17 (1 win)
Niki Lauda 17 (1 3rd)
Riccardo Patrese 16 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Andrea de Cesaris 15 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Teo Fabi 14 (1 2nd)
Derek Warwick 14 (1 3rd)
Jacques Laffite 13 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Marc Surer 9 (1 win)
Gerhard Berger 9 (1 win)**
Piercarlo Ghinzani 6 (1 2nd)
Jo Gartner 6 (1 2nd)**
Eddie Cheever 4 (1 3rd)
Stefan Johansson 4 (1 3rd)

**I gave them points for Monza, although actually they were ineligible for them.

Monaco race stopped early and half points awarded.

[Phoenix]

So, 26 years later, Elio de Angelis' strategy of trying to be as consistent as possible finally reaps the rewards

[Bleu]

1985
Elio de Angelis 56 (1 win, 6 2nd, 1 3rd)
Nigel Mansell 43 (3 wins, 2 2nd)
Stefan Johansson 37 (1 win, 2 2nd, 3 3rd)
Jacques Laffite 26 (2 wins)
Thierry Boutsen 24 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Alain Prost 24(25) (1 3rd)
Marc Surer 22 (2 wins, 1 3rd)
Nelson Piquet 22 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Derek Warwick 21 (1 win, 2 2nd)
Patrick Tambay 21 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Michele Alboreto 20 (1 3rd)
Keke Rosberg 17 (2 3rd)
Gerhard Berger 15 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Stefan Bellof 13 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Ayrton Senna 12 (2 4th)
Niki Lauda 11 (1 2nd)
Rene Arnoux 4 (1 3rd)
Andrea de Cesaris 4 (1 3rd)
Ivan Capelli 4 (1 3rd)
Philippe Streiff 3 (1 4th)

Third title for de Angelis. Unfortunately he would win no more, since he died early into next season.

[James1978]

Flippin 'eck - the triple world champion dies early the season after a bad start to the year, that sounds rather familiar!

[Bleu]

1986 After French GP
Jacques Laffite 29 (2 wins, 1 2nd)
Rene Arnoux 25 (1 win, 2 2nd)
Gerhard Berger 21 (2 wins)
Alain Prost 21 (1 win)
Keke Rosberg 20 (1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Riccardo Patrese 18 (2 wins)
Nigel Mansell 15 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Ayrton Senna 15 (1 2nd)
Nelson Piquet 9 (2 4th)
Michele Alboreto 8 (2 4th)
Stefan Johansson 7 (1 3rd)
Martin Brundle 6 (1 2nd)
Teo Fabi 6 (1 2nd)

In the next race at Brands Hatch, Laffite is injured, out for season and didn't return to F1.

[James1978]

That looks surprisingly similar to "No Real Champions" at that point in the season.......think my original prediction is looking quite good at this point mid you!

[Bleu]

1986 final
Alain Prost 37(39) (2 wins)
Rene Arnoux 33 (1 win, 2 2nd, 3 3rd)
Keke Rosberg 30 (2 2nd, 4 3rd)
Nigel Mansell 30(31) (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Jacques Laffite 29 (2 wins, 1 2nd)
Stefan Johansson 29 (1 win, 2 3rd)
Gerhard Berger 28 (2 wins, 1 2nd)
Ayrton Senna 26 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Martin Brundle 25 (1 win, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Nelson Piquet 23 (1 3rd)
Riccardo Patrese 18 (2 wins)
Michele Alboreto 16 (1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Philippe Streiff 15 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Johnny Dumfries 15 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Alan Jones 13 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Christian Danner 9 (1 win)
Philippe Alliot 9 (1 win)
Teo Fabi 6 (1 2nd)
Patrick Tambay 6 (1 2nd)

2nd time as real champion keeps his title!

[James1978]

Reckon Schumi could do that in 2003 as he had a few 6ths, 7ths, and 8ths when it went a pit pear-shaped for him (Malaysia, Hockenheim, Japan, Hungary)!!! Don't think my original prediction for that year is much good to be honest!

[Ferrim]

Arnoux finishes second!

AGAIN!

[Bleu]

1987
Stefan Johansson 32 (1 win, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Ayrton Senna 32 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Thierry Boutsen 29 (3 2nd, 2 3rd)
Satoru Nakajima 28 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Teo Fabi 28 (1 win, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Philippe Alliot 27 (3 wins)
Eddie Cheever 26 (2 wins, 2 3rd)
Nigel Mansell 24 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Nelson Piquet 23(24) (1 3rd)
Alain Prost 23 (1 win)
Gerhard Berger 20 (4 3rd)
Jonathan Palmer 16 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Derek Warwick 15 (1 win, 1 2nd)
Philippe Streiff 13 (1 win, 1 3rd)
Michele Alboreto 12 (1 3rd)
Rene Arnoux 9 (1 win)
Ivan Capelli 9 (1 win)
Roberto Moreno 9 (1 win)
Riccardo Patrese 9 (1 2nd)
Martin Brundle 6 (1 2nd)
Yannick Dalmas 6 (1 2nd)*
Andrea de Cesaris 3 (1 4th)

* ineligible in real-life but counted here.

This championship had cruel ending. Senna was disqualified following the season-ending Australian GP, robbing his fifth place and the title as a result! I love the fact that Alliot would have won the title with medal system!

[James1978]

I'm amazed Senna's so far up here to be honest! He was usually about podiums (mostly wins) and retirements, not lots of low-points finishes!

[Bleu]

1988
Thierry Boutsen 43 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Gerhard Berger 38 (1 win, 1 2nd, 3 3rd)
Riccardo Patrese 37 (3 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Derek Warwick 37 (1 win, 2 2nd, 4 3rd)
Ivan Capelli 32 (1 win, 3 2nd)
Alessandro Nannini 30 (2 wins, 1 2nd)
Nelson Piquet 29 (2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Michele Alboreto 28 (2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Ayrton Senna 25(27) (1 win, 1 3rd)
Eddie Cheever 21 (2 wins)
Jonathan Palmer 21 (1 win, 2 2nd)
Alain Prost 18(21) (7 5th)
Mauricio Gugelmin 10 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Satoru Nakajima 9 (1 win)
Pierluigi Martini 9 (1 win)
Andrea de Cesaris 4 (1 3rd)
Nigel Mansell 4 (2 5th)

Boutsen makes late-season dash to win the title with 22 points in last five races. Minardi takes first victory in USA.

[James1978]

I can't stop laughing at how 7 5ths for Prost is his joint best result.