
CarlosFerreira wrote:Are we being slightly silly? It's as exciting as VLADIMIR PUTIN wearing a LIVE BEAR!
BaconLettuceNinja wrote:If there's anything I've learned in this week's competition, it's that I never wish to live in the Shetland Islands. Ever.
Captain Hammer wrote:Trouble Ahead for Force India
People wonder why I don't like Joe Saward, but then he puts out crap like this. He's basically suggesting that Force India is likely to collapse because they let Liuzzi go. That might be a somewhat reasonable argument under normal conditions, but Saward has been president of the Tonio Liuzzi fan club for a while now, and he often talks Liuzzi up or pushes blame for his mistakes. And reading the post, it's quite clear that he is upset Liuzzi may not be in Formula 1 anymore (though if Liuzzi gets the second Hispania seat, watch him talk them up). That, too, I can understand; we all get passionate about our favourite driver or a certain topic from time to time. However, Saward has crossed a line here, letting his personal preference for Liuzzi dictate his actions as a journalist. He's basically built and entire (flimsy) case around the idea that Liuzzi leaving the sport is a bad thing.
CarlosFerreira wrote:Are we being slightly silly? It's as exciting as VLADIMIR PUTIN wearing a LIVE BEAR!
BaconLettuceNinja wrote:If there's anything I've learned in this week's competition, it's that I never wish to live in the Shetland Islands. Ever.
Captain Hammer wrote:Yeah, I don't know who that is. But if ever I needed a reason not to read Saward's blog ever again, this is it.
thehemogoblin wrote:Phoenix wrote:Showed this forum to a friend that actually cares about F1, hasn't registered so far despite saying he liked it. What have I done wrong?
We're weird.
thehemogoblin, on giving a reason for reporting a particular post wrote:He Zsolted!!!
watka wrote:He's basically suggesting that Liuzzi should pull an Andy Soucek and get the cars banged up in Bahrain. Fortunately, I think Tonio is sensible enough to not think of such a thing.
CarlosFerreira wrote:Are we being slightly silly? It's as exciting as VLADIMIR PUTIN wearing a LIVE BEAR!
BaconLettuceNinja wrote:If there's anything I've learned in this week's competition, it's that I never wish to live in the Shetland Islands. Ever.
Captain Hammer wrote:watka wrote:He's basically suggesting that Liuzzi should pull an Andy Soucek and get the cars banged up in Bahrain. Fortunately, I think Tonio is sensible enough to not think of such a thing.
I know what he's suggesting. I just don't know who Jamie Moyer is/
Ferrim wrote:"This is a very stupid move as it will, in effect, destroy the F1 career of Tonio Liuzzi. One can argue about Liuzzi’s ultimate talent, but there is no argument that he has done a decent job for the team."
Myrvold wrote:Well, this is his personal blog. I mean, if I had written a personal blog, i guess most of you had puked about my Villeneuve-love as well. However, in discussions or "official" writing, I tend to keep fairly neutral, even regarding him.
thehemogoblin wrote:Baseball player. Notoriously slow thrower.
CarlosFerreira wrote:Are we being slightly silly? It's as exciting as VLADIMIR PUTIN wearing a LIVE BEAR!
BaconLettuceNinja wrote:If there's anything I've learned in this week's competition, it's that I never wish to live in the Shetland Islands. Ever.
thehemogoblin wrote:Captain Hammer wrote:watka wrote:He's basically suggesting that Liuzzi should pull an Andy Soucek and get the cars banged up in Bahrain. Fortunately, I think Tonio is sensible enough to not think of such a thing.
I know what he's suggesting. I just don't know who Jamie Moyer is/
Baseball player. Notoriously slow thrower.
However, be assured that even the most wizened of hacks still make mistakes. The doyen of the British press corps, Alan Henry, courageously went down to Minardi to interview Zsolt Baumgartner. The driver was very helpful and very polite and it was not until the third question that he felt obliged to explain to the robust Member of Her Majesty's Press that, as an Italian, his knowledge of Hungarian politics was a little sketchy but that he, Gianmaria Bruni, would be happy to track down Zsolt so that AH would get everything he wanted.
Bleu wrote:http://www.grandprix.com/ft/ft12590.html
Clip from that article (sorry, being straight copy/paste the name gets mentioned)However, be assured that even the most wizened of hacks still make mistakes. The doyen of the British press corps, Alan Henry, courageously went down to Minardi to interview HWNSNBM. The driver was very helpful and very polite and it was not until the third question that he felt obliged to explain to the robust Member of Her Majesty's Press that, as an Italian, his knowledge of Hungarian politics was a little sketchy but that he, Gianmaria Bruni, would be happy to track down HWNSNBM so that AH would get everything he wanted.
baddriving50 wrote:thehemogoblin wrote:Captain Hammer wrote:I know what he's suggesting. I just don't know who Jamie Moyer is/
Baseball player. Notoriously slow thrower.
And the reason why my username has the number 50 at the end of it.
CarlosFerreira wrote:Are we being slightly silly? It's as exciting as VLADIMIR PUTIN wearing a LIVE BEAR!
BaconLettuceNinja wrote:If there's anything I've learned in this week's competition, it's that I never wish to live in the Shetland Islands. Ever.
Captain Hammer wrote:He's at it again. Joe Saward is now blowing the Liuzzi trumpet, hailing him as the perfect match for Renault in Kubica's absence.
DanielPT wrote:Captain Hammer wrote:He's at it again. Joe Saward is now blowing the Liuzzi trumpet, hailing him as the perfect match for Renault in Kubica's absence.
He has a point on this one. An available driver, who drove in F1 recently, that is better and more experienced than Liuzzi, at this stage, only Nick Heidfeld.
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:DanielPT wrote:Captain Hammer wrote:He's at it again. Joe Saward is now blowing the Liuzzi trumpet, hailing him as the perfect match for Renault in Kubica's absence.
He has a point on this one. An available driver, who drove in F1 recently, that is better and more experienced than Liuzzi, at this stage, only Nick Heidfeld.
But why would anyone pick Liuzzi, who has shown some flashes of potential but underperformed 90% of the time, over the definition of consistency that is Nick Heidfeld?
DanielPT wrote:BlindCaveSalamander wrote:DanielPT wrote:He has a point on this one. An available driver, who drove in F1 recently, that is better and more experienced than Liuzzi, at this stage, only Nick Heidfeld.
But why would anyone pick Liuzzi, who has shown some flashes of potential but underperformed 90% of the time, over the definition of consistency that is Nick Heidfeld?
I think that Liuzzi could bring in some cash while Heidfeld can't. Besides, if that definition of consistency was reasonably rated in F1, Heidfeld would probably have a drive by now...
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:Not that that matters though, since the seat is clearly Ho-Pin Tung's.
DanielPT wrote:He has a point on this one. An available driver, who drove in F1 recently, that is better and more experienced than Liuzzi, at this stage, only Nick Heidfeld.
CarlosFerreira wrote:Are we being slightly silly? It's as exciting as VLADIMIR PUTIN wearing a LIVE BEAR!
BaconLettuceNinja wrote:If there's anything I've learned in this week's competition, it's that I never wish to live in the Shetland Islands. Ever.
thehemogoblin, on giving a reason for reporting a particular post wrote:He Zsolted!!!
fjackdaw wrote:There was an article in F1 Racing a few years back about Tora Takagi, criticising him as being the driver who kept his foot on the accelerator at Spa '98 and slammed into the back of the melee. It was actually Ricardo Rossett. Oops.
Clint Bowyer at Richmond wrote:Thank you Juan Pablo (Montoya) for wrecking me, and then winning me the race!
Cynon wrote:fjackdaw wrote:There was an article in F1 Racing a few years back about Tora Takagi, criticising him as being the driver who kept his foot on the accelerator at Spa '98 and slammed into the back of the melee. It was actually Ricardo Rossett. Oops.
Was that written before or after the 2001 Toronto Champ Car race.
thehemogoblin, on giving a reason for reporting a particular post wrote:He Zsolted!!!
thehemogoblin wrote:baddriving50 wrote:thehemogoblin wrote:Baseball player. Notoriously slow thrower.
And the reason why my username has the number 50 at the end of it.
Dude, I didn't know you were a fan of Digger Phelps' son in law.
A decision on whether the pre-season Bahrain test goes ahead could well be made on Friday, with sources revealing to AUTOSPORT that teams are due to meet in Barcelona for a scheduled get-together of FOTA's Sporting Working Regulation Group.
AUTOSPORT understands the Bahrain test stuff will be discussed in the Friday meeting.
(on http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89525)Jean Todt wrote:There has been some movement in Bahrain. I understand things are improving and we have to wait.
Paul Hayes wrote:This needs preserving for posterity before someone fixes it. Who the hell let this go online?
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89525A decision on whether the pre-season Bahrain test goes ahead could well be made on Friday, with sources revealing to AUTOSPORT that teams are due to meet in Barcelona for a scheduled get-together of FOTA's Sporting Working Regulation Group.
AUTOSPORT understands the Bahrain test stuff will be discussed in the Friday meeting.
That said, the German is a safe pair of hands, but one can’t help wonder whether the team would have been better off with Vitantonio Liuzzi, whom Kubica recommended.
Adrian Sutil stays for another year, after plans to have him replace Felipe Massa at Ferrari fell apart in the aftermath of last year’s team orders argument.
Meanwhile, Buemi and Alguersuari will be looking over their shoulders in the first half of the season as World Series by Renault racer Daniel Ricciardo is waiting for the chance to step into one of their seats at the midpoint.
Reliability issues in testing, however, will be an early concern.
the early signs are that the latest car from Nick Wirth is some way off the pace. Glock, the tough German racer who is recovering from a recent appendectomy, admits that they are some way off realising their early season targets.
However, the new car comes from respected F1 designer Geoff Willis of BAR and Red Bull fame
opting for Force India refugee Tonio Liuzzi is clear indication that Kolles values speed, experience and technical ability over other ‘renta-drivers’ potential budgets.
CarlosFerreira wrote:Are we being slightly silly? It's as exciting as VLADIMIR PUTIN wearing a LIVE BEAR!
BaconLettuceNinja wrote:If there's anything I've learned in this week's competition, it's that I never wish to live in the Shetland Islands. Ever.
Captain Hammer wrote:The entire season preview at Formula1.com is pretty poor. It appears to have been written by Joe Saward (there is no byline), because it seriously plays up the chances of Tonio Liuzzi. It contains the following gems:
On Renault replacing Kubica with Heidfeld:That said, the German is a safe pair of hands, but one can’t help wonder whether the team would have been better off with Vitantonio Liuzzi, whom Kubica recommended.
Captain Hammer wrote:The entire season preview at Formula1.com is pretty poor. It appears to have been written by Joe Saward (there is no byline), because it seriously plays up the chances of Tonio Liuzzi. It contains the following gems:
On Renault replacing Kubica with Heidfeld:That said, the German is a safe pair of hands, but one can’t help wonder whether the team would have been better off with Vitantonio Liuzzi, whom Kubica recommended.
Heidfeld has the credentials to develop a car. Liuzzi doesn't. A lot of Renault's winter progress will be down to Heidfeld's input, which Liuzzi would not have been able to offer, and thus the car would likely lack the speed it has now.
On Force India's 2011 driver roster:Adrian Sutil stays for another year, after plans to have him replace Felipe Massa at Ferrari fell apart in the aftermath of last year’s team orders argument.
I've searched the entire internet (yes, I can do that), and the only mention of a Sutil-Ferrari deal is a Twitter update from Jonathan Legard that is overtly sceptical of it. But if Massa had replaced de la Rosa at Sauber to make way for Sutil going to Ferrari ... you guessed it, Liuzzi's seat at Force India would have been safe!
On Toro Rosso's chances this year:Meanwhile, Buemi and Alguersuari will be looking over their shoulders in the first half of the season as World Series by Renault racer Daniel Ricciardo is waiting for the chance to step into one of their seats at the midpoint.
Toro Rosso have repeatedly denied that Ricciardo has been guaranteed a race seat at some point in 2011. But the important thing to note here is that the direct implication of this sentence is that Alguersuari and Buemi will be too concerned about Ricciardo's presence to be able to produce consistent results, thus keeping them at the tail of the grid.
On Fernandes-Lotus' 2011 campaign:Reliability issues in testing, however, will be an early concern.
This is about the only thing the author has written that is actually relevant to their chances. Most of the stuff is about the court case against Group Lotus and the Renault engine deal. Otherwise, he goes out of his way to mention reliability issues.
On the subject of Virgin:the early signs are that the latest car from Nick Wirth is some way off the pace. Glock, the tough German racer who is recovering from a recent appendectomy, admits that they are some way off realising their early season targets.
In just about everything they have said this year, Virgin have highlighted their focus on reliability. It doesn't get mentioned once here; instead, the author downplays their position. Secondly, he also implies that Glock will not be 100% because of his surgery, but he is expected to be fully recovered in time for Melbourne.
And here's the kicker - the detail about Hispania:However, the new car comes from respected F1 designer Geoff Willis of BAR and Red Bull fame
Except that the F111 is clearly based on the F110. The author makes a big deal about Willis' presence in the team espite the fact that not much has changed. In fact, the insinuation of this statement is that Hispania's failure to test and their speed defecit will be completely negated by Willis.opting for Force India refugee Tonio Liuzzi is clear indication that Kolles values speed, experience and technical ability over other ‘renta-drivers’ potential budgets.
The most overtly pro-Liuzzi statement in the whole thing. Liuzzi was consistently beaten by Sutil, has less than 18 months' recent experience behind the wheel and has not shown any outstanding technical proficiency like, say, Rubens Barrichello or Michael Schumacher.
Jesus, Joe. Maybe you should have shut your blog down when you had the chance.
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