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by **Jeroen Krautmeir** » 02 May 2011, 21:10

Rain, rain go away, Indy wants to race...

To be honest though, it's kind of stupid the way IndyCar has been handling this. If your 'rain tyres' are rubbish, why bother having them at all? And since your tyres are crap, why schedule a race in Brazil during this time of the year, as many have already said?

by **golic_2004** » 02 May 2011, 21:13

Exactly, maybe if it were on an actual road course like Interlagos or one of those instead of a street circuit then the rain would not be as big an issue. And apparently Indycar wants to put together another race in Brazil for sometime in September? At least make it a permanent road course facility.

by **JohnMLTX** » 02 May 2011, 22:54

SATO IS LEADING!!! SATO IS LEADING! AND NOT JUST ON PIT STOPS, HE GOT AROUND WILL POWER INTO TURN 1!

He's got 2 SECONDS on Viso in 2nd, and it's a KV 1-2! WOW!

by **DanielPT** » 03 May 2011, 00:14

JohnMLTX wrote:SATO IS LEADING!!! SATO IS LEADING! AND NOT JUST ON PIT STOPS, HE GOT AROUND WILL POWER INTO TURN 1!

He's got 2 SECONDS on Viso in 2nd, and it's a KV 1-2! WOW!

Yet, somewhere along the way, things went horribly wrong. Besides, Viso got a penalty for blocking...

by **rffp** » 03 May 2011, 02:21

golic_2004 wrote:Exactly, maybe if it were on an actual road course like Interlagos or one of those instead of a street circuit then the rain would not be as big an issue. And apparently Indycar wants to put together another race in Brazil for sometime in September? At least make it a permanent road course facility.

None available. Jacarepaguá received a death sentence and Curitiba is not suitable. The others are way below par.
September would be fine for a street race, but Porto Alegre, a strong candidate for the 2nd race, cand be awfully cold (for Brazilian standards) in the winter.

by **dr-baker** » 03 May 2011, 02:43

rffp wrote:
golic_2004 wrote:Exactly, maybe if it were on an actual road course like Interlagos or one of those instead of a street circuit then the rain would not be as big an issue. And apparently Indycar wants to put together another race in Brazil for sometime in September? At least make it a permanent road course facility.

None available. Jacarepaguá received a death sentence and Curitiba is not suitable. The others are way below par.
September would be fine for a street race, but Porto Alegre, a strong candidate for the 2nd race, cand be awfully cold (for Brazilian standards) in the winter.

What would be the possibility/enthusiasm for an F1/IndyCar double bill at Interlagos?

by **Valrys** » 03 May 2011, 04:00

dr-baker wrote:
rffp wrote:
golic_2004 wrote:Exactly, maybe if it were on an actual road course like Interlagos or one of those instead of a street circuit then the rain would not be as big an issue. And apparently Indycar wants to put together another race in Brazil for sometime in September? At least make it a permanent road course facility.

None available. Jacarepaguá received a death sentence and Curitiba is not suitable. The others are way below par.
September would be fine for a street race, but Porto Alegre, a strong candidate for the 2nd race, cand be awfully cold (for Brazilian standards) in the winter.

What would be the possibility/enthusiasm for an F1/IndyCar double bill at Interlagos?

That would be bathplug awesome, imo

by **nome66** » 03 May 2011, 07:13

yea, if they decide to Up the safety and security there.

by **nome66** » 03 May 2011, 08:47

so, they finished the race today. just saw it on OLN*cough* EXCUSE ME, VERSUS. (but they still have hunting and cycling shows out the arse)
i'm disappointed because Takuma Sato was doing very well, but then realized that his car does not have infinite fuel, virtually GIVING the win to will power.
i think roger penske and tony george are good friends at this point.

by **golic_2004** » 03 May 2011, 10:25

Cynon wrote:
JohnMLTX wrote:Spoiler Alert

Ana Beatriz is channeling the spirit of Lucas Di Grassi today.

Yeah, but she isn't hitting the walls, unlike di Crashi... but she is very disappointing so far. Granted, she has an awesome teammate, and it IS Dreyer & Reinbold... to whom consistency is a foreign language...

Today she should have very well been the top finishing woman in today's race after Danica and Simona crashed out together on lap 1. Unfortunately she blew it by having a mechanical failure. And both Simona AND Danica had their cars fixed & finished ahead of her.

by **Cynon** » 03 May 2011, 12:38

nome66 wrote:i think roger penske and tony george are good friends at this point.

1.) Penske sided with CART during the split. Don't think he's all that happy with Tony George for the CART/IRL split.
2.) Tony George is no longer running the IRL.

rffp wrote:If their rain tire is not great, then they shouldn't race where it rains, or at least move the race to June-August, since the winter here is awfully dry.

It's more like an intermediate tire, not a wet tire, because today seemed to go fairly well as long as people weren't braking on the paint. Again, had St. Pete and Barber not been total fail then I think they might have tried to race in the rain. Then again... Tony Cotman is the race director...

I think the lesson the IRL learned here is GET A RAIN TIRE.

by **Jeroen Krautmeir** » 07 May 2011, 00:27

Oh my! It-it-it's him!

by **Shizuka** » 07 May 2011, 01:45

Indycar has a Need for Speed?
I think not.

by **Cynon** » 07 May 2011, 04:49

Shizuka wrote:Indycar has a Need for Speed?
I think not.

The Need for Scott Speed will be seen when he either barely squeaks in on Bump Day or fails to qualify. Scott Speed was not suited to F1 and certainly not to NASCAR... so I can't imagine he'll do well at Indy. Kind of a shame really, he has one of the best names ever in racing.

by **jpm** » 08 May 2011, 05:10

Cynon wrote:
Shizuka wrote:Indycar has a Need for Speed?
I think not.

The Need for Scott Speed will be seen when he either barely squeaks in on Bump Day or fails to qualify. Scott Speed was not suited to F1 and certainly not to NASCAR... so I can't imagine he'll do well at Indy. Kind of a shame really, he has one of the best names ever in racing.

It'll be hilarious if he gets beaten by his team-mate Ho Pin Tung. I can see James Jakes failing to qualify, as it will be his first ever oval (likewise for Ho Pin). Howabout Alex Lloyd as a dark horse for indy, or Paul tracy to take his her-herm, second win at the Brickyard...

by **golic_2004** » 08 May 2011, 13:15

Cynon wrote:
Shizuka wrote:Indycar has a Need for Speed?
I think not.

The Need for Scott Speed will be seen when he either barely squeaks in on Bump Day or fails to qualify. Scott Speed was not suited to F1 and certainly not to NASCAR... so I can't imagine he'll do well at Indy. Kind of a shame really, he has one of the best names ever in racing.

Have to say it. Scott Speed < Lake Speed

by **Cynon** » 08 May 2011, 19:43

Lake Speed managed to keep a fairly lengthy if anonymous career in NASCAR and was actually fast for a brief period of time.

Scott Speed managed to make himself persona non grata in NASCAR and got booted out of the POS Team Red Bull cars for being shite after a measly three years.

jpm wrote:It'll be hilarious if he gets beaten by his team-mate Ho Pin Tung. I can see James Jakes failing to qualify, as it will be his first ever oval (likewise for Ho Pin). Howabout Alex Lloyd as a dark horse for indy, or Paul tracy to take his her-herm, second win at the Brickyard...

Oy...

1.) Team Green knew, just as everyone else did, that all the caution lights may not flash on at the same time.
2.) If one of them was on, race is under yellow.
3.) One of them was on before Tracy completed the pass on Helio Castroneves.

Not much ground to stand on.

As someone who sided more with CART than the IRL, I acknowledge Castroneves as having won the Indianapolis 500 in 2002. Politics between CART and the IRL did not help the situation, however...

by **jpm** » 09 May 2011, 22:32

Well I guess I'm just a P.T.ite; I thnk Paul €tracy is great for the series, and just wish he and Bourdais had front running machinery. I really hope that he can make the field after last years non event; Bump Day this yearshould be the best for years!!!

by **Cynon** » 11 May 2011, 18:56

I took a peek at the 2012 Dallaras, and I like what I saw for the most part, especially the Road Course car... with those 1984-F1-Esque-Double-Wings at the rear.

Only thing I hate are those stupid rear fender-thingies on the cars, but I'll live with it.

by **JohnMLTX** » 13 May 2011, 02:59

Cynon wrote:Only thing I hate are those stupid rear fender-thingies on the cars, but I'll live with it.

Sorry Cynon, but I gotta get up on my soapbox here.

Those fenders are there to prevent cars from getting launched when they touch tires, a la Mark Webber in Valencia, Mike Conway at Indy, Fabio Leimer in Istanbul, Dario Franchitti in Michigan etc. They're a necessary safety feature as per the new regulations for oval cars, and to be quite frank, they've done a fairly decent job in designing them to not look as stupid as they could have been. And, to be honest, I'd rather see some extra bits on the back than watch cars do backflips everytime they bump on an oval. Call me crazy, but semi-couth fenders > dead drivers.

by **nome66** » 13 May 2011, 06:18

the aero kits shown look too much like GP2 for my taste. actually.....almost like the HRT.....
can't wait to hear those turbo Chevy motors and Lotus engines sing through Baltimore next year though!

by **ADx_Wales** » 13 May 2011, 06:35

It appears that none of the teams want these cars next year.

by **Cynon** » 13 May 2011, 06:43

JohnMLTX wrote:
Cynon wrote:Only thing I hate are those stupid rear fender-thingies on the cars, but I'll live with it.

Sorry Cynon, but I gotta get up on my soapbox here.

Those fenders are there to prevent cars from getting launched when they touch tires, a la Mark Webber in Valencia, Mike Conway at Indy, Fabio Leimer in Istanbul, Dario Franchitti in Michigan etc. They're a necessary safety feature as per the new regulations for oval cars, and to be quite frank, they've done a fairly decent job in designing them to not look as stupid as they could have been. And, to be honest, I'd rather see some extra bits on the back than watch cars do backflips everytime they bump on an oval. Call me crazy, but semi-couth fenders > dead drivers.

I get what they're for, but they look a bit silly.

ADx_Wales wrote:It appears that none of the teams want these cars next year.

It's probably more of a budgetary concern than anything else...

Anyway, Rookie Orientation has been run today... all of the drivers except Jakes have passed it so far (Jakes needs to run one more session).

Rank Car Driver Name C/E/T Time Speed Diff Gap Best Lap Total Laps
1 4 Hildebrand, JR (R) D/H/F 00:40.6260 221.533 --.---- --.---- 59 68
2 8 Tung, Ho-Pin (R) D/H/F 00:40.8206 220.477 0.1946 0.1946 52 53
3 06 Hinchcliffe, James (R) D/H/F 00:40.9716 219.664 0.3456 0.1510 98 101
4 83 Kimball, Charlie (R) D/H/F 00:40.9833 219.602 0.3573 0.0117 68 73
5 8 Speed, Scott (R) D/H/F 00:41.0534 219.227 0.4274 0.0701 36 37
6 36 Mann, Pippa (R) D/H/F 00:41.0647 219.166 0.4387 0.0113 32 35
7 18 Jakes, James (R) D/H/F 00:41.9457 214.563 1.3197 0.8810 48 51

by **DanielPT** » 13 May 2011, 06:45

Cynon wrote:Anyway, Rookie Orientation has been run today...

Rank Car Driver Name C/E/T Time Speed Diff Gap Best Lap Total Laps
1 4 Hildebrand, JR (R) D/H/F 00:40.6260 221.533 --.---- --.---- 59 68
2 8 Tung, Ho-Pin (R) D/H/F 00:40.8206 220.477 0.1946 0.1946 52 53
3 06 Hinchcliffe, James (R) D/H/F 00:40.9716 219.664 0.3456 0.1510 98 101
4 83 Kimball, Charlie (R) D/H/F 00:40.9833 219.602 0.3573 0.0117 68 73
5 8 Speed, Scott (R) D/H/F 00:41.0534 219.227 0.4274 0.0701 36 37
6 36 Mann, Pippa (R) D/H/F 00:41.0647 219.166 0.4387 0.0113 32 35
7 18 Jakes, James (R) D/H/F 00:41.9457 214.563 1.3197 0.8810 48 51

Ho-Pin Tung for the championship next year!

by **dr-baker** » 14 May 2011, 02:34

DanielPT wrote:
Cynon wrote:Anyway, Rookie Orientation has been run today...

Rank Car Driver Name C/E/T Time Speed Diff Gap Best Lap Total Laps
1 4 Hildebrand, JR (R) D/H/F 00:40.6260 221.533 --.---- --.---- 59 68
2 8 Tung, Ho-Pin (R) D/H/F 00:40.8206 220.477 0.1946 0.1946 52 53
3 06 Hinchcliffe, James (R) D/H/F 00:40.9716 219.664 0.3456 0.1510 98 101
4 83 Kimball, Charlie (R) D/H/F 00:40.9833 219.602 0.3573 0.0117 68 73
5 8 Speed, Scott (R) D/H/F 00:41.0534 219.227 0.4274 0.0701 36 37
6 36 Mann, Pippa (R) D/H/F 00:41.0647 219.166 0.4387 0.0113 32 35
7 18 Jakes, James (R) D/H/F 00:41.9457 214.563 1.3197 0.8810 48 51

Ho-Pin Tung for the championship next year!

And Pippa Mann for the Indy 500!

by **DanielPT** » 14 May 2011, 02:39

dr-baker wrote:
DanielPT wrote:
Cynon wrote:Anyway, Rookie Orientation has been run today...

Rank Car Driver Name C/E/T Time Speed Diff Gap Best Lap Total Laps
1 4 Hildebrand, JR (R) D/H/F 00:40.6260 221.533 --.---- --.---- 59 68
2 8 Tung, Ho-Pin (R) D/H/F 00:40.8206 220.477 0.1946 0.1946 52 53
3 06 Hinchcliffe, James (R) D/H/F 00:40.9716 219.664 0.3456 0.1510 98 101
4 83 Kimball, Charlie (R) D/H/F 00:40.9833 219.602 0.3573 0.0117 68 73
5 8 Speed, Scott (R) D/H/F 00:41.0534 219.227 0.4274 0.0701 36 37
6 36 Mann, Pippa (R) D/H/F 00:41.0647 219.166 0.4387 0.0113 32 35
7 18 Jakes, James (R) D/H/F 00:41.9457 214.563 1.3197 0.8810 48 51

Ho-Pin Tung for the championship next year!

And Pippa Mann for the Indy 500!

We are Ho-Pin for it!

by **Jeroen Krautmeir** » 14 May 2011, 02:43

Scott Speed 2011 Indy 500 Winner :lol:

by **dr-baker** » 14 May 2011, 02:47

Jeroen Krautmeir wrote:Scott Speed 2011 Indy 500 Winner

Only if he has enough Will Power to succeed!

by **Jeroen Krautmeir** » 17 May 2011, 15:52

Code: Select all: 1. Alex Tagliani Sam Schmidt 39.8445s 2. Scott Dixon Ganassi 39.9779s + 0.1334s 3. Graham Rahal Ganassi 39.9874s + 0.1429s 4. Ryan Briscoe Penske 39.9972s + 0.1527s 5. Oriol Servia Newman/Haas 40.0172s + 0.1727s 6. Vitor Meira Foyt 40.0332s + 0.1887s 7. Dario Franchitti Ganassi 40.1059s + 0.2614s 8. Helio Castroneves Penske 40.1163s + 0.2718s 9. Marco Andretti Andretti 40.1401s + 0.2956s 10. Will Power Penske 40.1815s + 0.3370s 11. Ed Carpenter Sarah Fisher 40.1916s + 0.3471s 12. Paul Tracy Dreyer & Reinbold 40.2180s + 0.3735s 13. Buddy Rice Panther 40.2307s + 0.3862s 14. Raphael Matos AFS 40.2405s + 0.3960s 15. Danica Patrick Andretti 40.2530s + 0.4085s 16. Justin Wilson Dreyer & Reinbold 40.2800s + 0.4355s 17. Bertrand Baguette Rahal Letterman Lanigan 40.2813s + 0.4368s 18. John Andretti Petty/Andretti 40.2921s + 0.4476s 19. Townsend Bell Sam Schmidt 40.3002s + 0.4557s 20. JR Hildebrand Panther 40.3224s + 0.4779s 21. Ho-Pin Tung Dragon 40.3277s + 0.4832s 22. Tony Kanaan KV 40.3528s + 0.5083s 23. James Hinchcliffe Newman/Haas 40.3638s + 0.5193s 24. Ryan Hunter-Reay Andretti 40.3717s + 0.5272s 25. Davey Hamilton Dreyer & Reinbold 40.4048s + 0.5603s 26. Bruno Junqueira Foyt 40.4316s + 0.5871s 27. Takuma Sato KV 40.4485s + 0.6040s 28. Ana Beatriz Dreyer & Reinbold 40.5037s + 0.6592s 29. Scott Speed Dragon 40.5086s + 0.6641s 30. Simona de Silvestro HVM 40.5926s + 0.7481s 31. Charlie Kimball Ganassi 40.6220s + 0.7775s 32. Dan Wheldon Herta 40.6740s + 0.8295s 33. Tomas Scheckter KV/SH 40.6865s + 0.8420s 34. EJ Viso KV 40.7063s + 0.8618s 35. Sebastian Saavedra Conquest 40.7129s + 0.8684s 36. Pippa Mann Conquest 40.7502s + 0.9057s 37. Alex Lloyd Dale Coyne 40.8145s + 0.9700s 38. Mike Conway Andretti 41.0286s + 1.1841s 39. James Jakes Dale Coyne 41.0780s + 1.2335s

by **Cynon** » 19 May 2011, 15:15

Meanwhile, at Indianapolis... :lol:

Website · by **Wizzie** » 19 May 2011, 15:59

Cynon wrote:Meanwhile, at Indianapolis...

Oh dear.

by **DanielPT** » 19 May 2011, 18:59

Cynon wrote:Meanwhile, at Indianapolis...

Planking?

I didn't knew that existed!

by **golic_2004** » 20 May 2011, 01:15

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/91496

Monteiro

by **DanielPT** » 20 May 2011, 01:22

golic_2004 wrote:http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/91496

Monteiro

So, Monteiro is going to try wining Las Vegas. Interesting development. Perhaps he can be a bit less rejectful this time and might just pull it off, if 3/4s of the field retire before the start that is!

by **Cynon** » 20 May 2011, 01:51

DanielPT wrote:
golic_2004 wrote:http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/91496

Monteiro

So, Monteiro is going to try wining Las Vegas. Interesting development. Perhaps he can be a bit less rejectful this time and might just pull it off, if 3/4s of the field retire before the start that is!

If you thought he was bad in F1 you missed his Champ Car days...

by **DanielPT** » 20 May 2011, 01:58

Cynon wrote:
DanielPT wrote:
golic_2004 wrote:http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/91496

Monteiro

So, Monteiro is going to try wining Las Vegas. Interesting development. Perhaps he can be a bit less rejectful this time and might just pull it off, if 3/4s of the field retire before the start that is!

If you thought he was bad in F1 you missed his Champ Car days...

I didn't. When I say that perhaps he could be less rejectful this time, the other time I was referring to was to his Champ car days.

by **golic_2004** » 20 May 2011, 05:14

http://www.indystar.com/article/2011051 ... t%7CSPORTS

Horrible crash for Simona. I'm glad she is okay. The girl's got plenty of guts, especially if she actually tries to qualify this weekend.

by **dr-baker** » 20 May 2011, 05:20

golic_2004 wrote:http://www.indystar.com/article/20110519/SPORTS0107/110519006/Indy-500-practice-Simona-De-Silvestro-involved-in-hard-crash?odyssey=tab%7Cmostpopular%7Ctext%7CSPORTS

Horrible crash for Simona. I'm glad she is okay. The girl's got plenty of guts, especially if she actually tries to qualify this weekend.

And here's a direct link to the YouTube video of the crash: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18pFE6cRHYw

by **jpm** » 20 May 2011, 06:15

Montiero wasn't that bad according to Jeremy Shaw in the 2003 Autocourse annual, and when considered that he was a rookie, for a rookie team Fittipaldi Dingman, he didn't do too badly. Then again, the only decent drivers around at that time apart from the Forsythe driverand the Newman Haas men were Hunter Reay, Haberfeld, Manning, Servia and a past it Jimmy Vasser...He won't stand a chance of winning the 5 mil, but that shouldn't stop him trying. Still, I'd prefer someone like the 2003 rally champ Petter Solberg, who has been rumoured to be interested.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/89889

Just imagine Petter winning and then doing this like he did in 2003; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBsN__InFOU

He'd certainly give Helio a run for his money!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JAuErgi5Yo

by **Cynon** » 20 May 2011, 08:04

golic_2004 wrote:http://www.indystar.com/article/20110519/SPORTS0107/110519006/Indy-500-practice-Simona-De-Silvestro-involved-in-hard-crash?odyssey=tab%7Cmostpopular%7Ctext%7CSPORTS

Horrible crash for Simona. I'm glad she is okay. The girl's got plenty of guts, especially if she actually tries to qualify this weekend.

Guts are something Simona has in great quantity -- even for an IndyCar driver. However, the speed of the HVM car has not been the greatest, so I wouldn't expect too much from Simona this year.

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