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Re: The No Germans in the last 20 years Alternative Champion

Postby James1978 » 11 May 2011, 05:09

2006

Fernando Alonso 144 (11 wins, 3 2nd)
Felipe Massa 101 (4 wins, 3 2nd, 2 3rd)
Giancarlo Fisichella 91 (1 win, 3 2nd, 5 3rd)
Kimi Raikkonen 81 (1 win, 5 2nd, 2 3rd)
Jenson Button 67 (1 win, 6 3rd)
Rubens Barrichello 45 (1 3rd, 2 4th, 4 5th)
Juan Pablo Montoya 30 (2 2nd)
Jarno Trulli 27 (1 3rd)
David Coulthard 26 (1 3rd, 1 4th)
Pedro De La Rosa 25 (1 2nd, 2 4th)
Jacques Villeneuve 15 (1 4th)
Mark Webber 15 (2 5th)
Robert Kubica 11 (1 2nd)
Scott Speed 7 (2 7th)
Vitantonio Liuzzi 6 (2 7th)
Christian Klien 5 (1 6th)
Tiago Monteiro 3 (1 6th)
Christijan Albers 2 (1 7th)

Sadly Super Aguri fail to score.

True domination, I dread to think what the winning margin would have been under pre-2002 points! I'm still staggered Fisi only manges a single win though. Raikkonen gets a win at Monza which is very popular with the locals as he's about to go to Ferrari for 2007! All Midland's points came in the same race (Hungary!)
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Re: The No Germans in the last 20 years Alternative Champion

Postby Klon » 11 May 2011, 09:57

Dare I guessing? Well, yes I do.

2007: Lewis Hamilton
2008: Felipe Massa
2009: Jenson Button
2010: Mark Webber
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Re: The No Germans in the last 20 years Alternative Champion

Postby BlindCaveSalamander » 11 May 2011, 21:52

I'm guessing Alonso will win 2007 and 2010.
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Re: The No Germans in the last 20 years Alternative Champion

Postby James1978 » 11 May 2011, 22:50

I've worked out 2007 and will probably be able to post it tonight, the ironic thing is the main contenders are REWARDED for their bad races unless they retired (let's face it, that year McLarens and Ferraris should never have finished behind BMW-Saubers or even Williamses)..... :-)
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Re: The No Germans in the last 20 years Alternative Champion

Postby James1978 » 12 May 2011, 04:37

2007

OK, something a bit different here. Rather than desribing a close championship race by race, as all the main contenders here are still eligible, what I'll do is compare what happens here to reality, where the final championship points were Raikkonen 110, Hamilton 109, Alonso 109 (but behind Hamilton on countback) and Massa 94 - all of them will only gain points if they have a bad race and finish behind a German driver (mostly Heidfeld).

First of all, the outsider Massa - In the first two races he finished behind Heidfeld, and moves up a place in each and gains 2 points. The other only other race which he could have gained was Hungary, finishing 13th IRL, but only 4 Germans were ahead, so he just misses out on points there. Only gaining 2 points means he's still well behind the other three.

Next Raikkonen: his really bad race was Monaco, but moves up from 8th to 7th by eliminating Heidfeld, and in Canada likewise he moves up from 5th to 4th. From then on he got his act together and would never finish off the podium after being 4th at Indianapolis, so no more to be gained - so he gains 2 points to put him on to 112.

Next Alonso: his first point gained was in Bahrain when his lacklustre 5th behind Heidfeld becomes a 4th. Like Raikkonen he gains another point in Canada. Another bad race in France where he was only 7th IRL but again the ever-consistent Heidfeld was one of the cars if front, so that becomes a 6th. And in Hungary due to being docked grid positions, he was stuck behind Heidfeld again at the end of the race but here is free to take 3rd. That gains him 4 points, enough to take him 1 point ahead of Kimi on 113!!!

But finally there's Hamilton: Up to Silverstone he was immaculate, never missing the podium. His first bad race was the European GP but scrapes 8th thanks again to the missing Heidfeld for his first point gained. In Turkey his puncture only relegated him to 4th as there's no Heidfeld. That's 2 points gained so far. At the last race, Brazil he was demoted to the back of the field after an early gearbox problem, and had to fight his way back up. Two of the leading pack behind the Ferraris and Alonso were not only Heidfeld, but also Nico Rosberg too - with these two removed, Hamilton moves up to 5th, and his gain on real-life is also 4 points, which ties him with Alonso. (Ha, and I remember towards the end of that race seeing their battle and wishing for them to collide and take each other out!! :mrgreen: )

Both McLaren drivers won 4 races (Alonso in Malaysia, Monaco, Europe and Italy, Hamilton in Canada, USA, Hungary and Japan). Hamilton always had lots of 2nd places under his sleeve after a run of 4 in a row from Malaysia to Monaco, and added another in Italy. Alonso only has 4 from Australia, USA, Britain and China - therefore it's Hamilton's title in his debut season!!!!

Lewis Hamilton 113 (4 wins, 5 2nd, 3 3rd)
Fernando Alonso 113 (4 wins, 4 2nd, 5 3rd)
Kimi Raikkonen 112 (6 wins, 2 2nd, 4 3rd)
Felipe Massa 96 (3 wins, 4 2nd, 3 3rd)
Heikki Kovalainen 48 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Robert Kubica 48 (6 4th)
Giancarlo Fisichella 30 (2 4th, 3 5th)
Mark Webber 20 (1 3rd)
David Coulthard 20 (1 4th)
Jarno Trulli 18 (5 6th)
Alex Wurz 17 (1 2nd)
Jenson Button 10 (1 4th)
Takuma Sato 6 (1 5th)
Vitantonio Liuzzi 5 (1 5th)
Rubens Barrichello 4 (4 8th)
Scott Speed 1 (1 8th)
Anthony Davidson 1 (1 8th)
Kazuki Nakajima 1 (1 8th)

BTW - who'd have ever thought Nick Heidfeld could be so influential? ;-)

Further BTW - Raikkonen would have won under pre-2002 points, so this is sort-of payback for 2003 :shock:
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Re: The No Germans in the last 20 years Alternative Champion

Postby James1978 » 13 May 2011, 05:05

2008

Lewis Hamilton 106 (5 wins, 4 2nd, 1 3rd)
Felipe Massa 102 (6 wins, 2 2nd, 3 3rd)
Robert Kubica 85 (1 win, 4 2nd, 2 3rd)
Kimi Raikkonen 84 (2 wins, 3 2nd, 5 3rd)
Fernando Alonso 73 (2 wins, 2 2nd, 3 3rd)
Heikki Kovalainen 71 (2 wins, 2 3rd, 5 4th)
Jarno Trulli 41 (1 3rd, 2 4th, 3 5th)
Mark Webber 35 (1 4th, 1 5th, 6 6th)
Nelson Piquet Jr 25 (1 2nd, 1 4th)
David Coulthard 20 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Rubens Barrichello 18 (1 2nd)
Kazuki Nakajima 17 (2 4th)
Sebastien Bourdais 13 (2 5th)
Jenson Button 9 (1 5th, 1 6th)

Fisichella and the Super Aguris failed to score.

This was slightly more comfortable from Hamilton than real life - he was 9 points ahead of Massa going to Brazil and so only needed 7th and never looked in any danger of not making it unless he binned it in the rain at the end. In the end he got 4th with his teammate covering 5th, and no Vettel or Glock to interfere with his progress in the latter stages! :)

(Hamilton's main points gained for Spa and Singapore where he gained 2 points in each give him the bigger lead)

Also very deservedly I feel, Kubica pips Raikkonen for 3rd overall. Kovalainen picks up a 2nd win at Monza.

And Nakajima and Bourdais are unrejectified!! :lol:
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Re: The No Germans in the last 20 years Alternative Champion

Postby James1978 » 14 May 2011, 23:56

2009

Jenson Button 112 (6 wins*, 3 2nd, 2 3rd)
Rubens Barrichello 94 (2 wins, 4 2nd, 3 3rd*)
Mark Webber 82.5 (5 wins, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Lewis Hamilton 58 (2 wins, 2 2nd, 2 3rd)
Kimi Raikkonen 58 (1 win, 1 2nd, 4 3rd)
Jarno Trulli 45 (1 win, 2 2nd*, 2 3rd)
Fernando Alonso 43.5 (1 2nd, 3 4th)
Heikki Kovalainen 33 (4 4th, 2 5th)
Robert Kubica 30 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Felipe Massa 29.5 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Giancarlo Fisichella 18 (1 2nd) - includes 3 points for Ferrari
Sebastien Buemi 15 (1 5th, 3 6th)
Kazuki Nakajima 10 (3 7th)
Kamui Kobayashi 6 (1 4th)
Sebastien Bourdais 6 (1 6th)
Nelson Piquet Jr 3 (1 7th)

*Half points for Malaysia

And it's a Brawn 1-2! Unfortunately for them they had to hold off a challenge from a much more competitve Red Bull, now having pooled all their resources into one car for Webber only, after Coulthard's retirement from the sport. This made Brawn push their budget too far on development defending their lead and the team folded in the off-season, but both drivers managed to get seats elsewhere, Button joining Hamilton at McLaren, and Rubens replacing the disappointing Nakajima at Williams, who game him the push after losing Toyota engines!

Three no-scores for Webber in Monza, Singapore and Suzuka ended his chances and Button sealed it from Barrichello in Brazil.

Also Toyota pulled out at the end of the year, but pulled out all the stops to go out on a high. Their competitveness improved
noticeably from 2005 when they too pared down to one car only for Trulli (similar to Red Bull here!), and they got their maiden win at Suzuka, their third-last race. Also they gave their impressive test driver Kobayashi a second car for the last two races, and scored a sensational 4th at Abu Dhabi (unrejectifying himself straight away)!!!
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Re: The No Germans in the last 20 years Alternative Champion

Postby James1978 » 15 May 2011, 04:33

2010 (after British GP)

Lewis Hamilton 164 (3 wins)
Jenson Button 156 (2 wins)
Mark Webber 149 (4 wins)
Fernando Alonso 115 (1 win)
Robert Kubica 114 (3 2nd)
Felipe Massa 94 (1 2nd)
Rubens Barrichello 57 (1 3rd)
Vitantonio Liuzzi 39 (4 6th)
Sebastien Buemi 32 (1 6th)
Jaime Alguersuari 31 (1 6th)
Kamui Kobayashi 28 (2 5th)
Vitaly Petrov 20 (1 5th)
Pedro De La Rosa 7 (1 8th)
Heikki Kovalainen 2 (2 10th)
Lucas Di Grassi 1 (1 10th)
Karun Chandhok 1 (1 10th)

After the British GP, it was looking a very close battle between the two McLaren drivers and Webber. Button had the upper hand at first, but with three wins and a 2nd to Webber at Silverstone it was Hamilton who had the momentum and chasing a 3rd title. Alonso is almost two wins behind at this point, and only just ahead of the impressive Kubica.

And 3rd and 4th at the last two races for Barrichello puts him clear at the head of the midfield pack, while the new teams have only picked up a handful of 10th place finishes.
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Re: The No Germans in the last 20 years Alternative Champion

Postby Ferrim » 15 May 2011, 09:19

As Alonso won 4 of the remaining races he has nothing to gain from these. He retired at Spa so no gains either.

This probably means what I hope it means.
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Re: The No Germans in the last 20 years Alternative Champion

Postby James1978 » 16 May 2011, 05:15

2010 (part 2)

(I actually considered before starting this whether I should eliminate the German GP too but decided not to, as it was going strong long before Schumacher arrived on the scene, and there were even 2 races there in 1984 when they only had Bellof, and he wasn't even there for the European GP! Plus Hungarian GP has been present for quarter of a century with only the legendary HWNSNBM representing them!) :))

Hamilton extended his lead to 11 points at Hockenheim by finishing 3rd beating Button and Webber, even though the event was dominated by Ferrari, but Massa controversially handing Alonso the win after THAT message. This brought Alonso into the championship mix.

Hungary was a disaster for McLaren - with Hamilton retiring and Button only managing 6th after being mired in the midfield (behind the likes of Petrov and De La Rosa), a win by Webber taking him into the points lead, and Alonso further into contention with 2nd. Also for some really strange reason, Barrichello drove really close to the pit wall while running on his own in 8th. Now why did he do that? :)

Spa and Monza almost cancelled each other out for the fortunes of the top 4 - at Spa it was Hamilton winning from Webber, with Alonso and Button both crashing out on their own - but those two finished 1-2 at Monza, with Hamilton retiring after a collision with Massa on the first lap, and Webber struggling in 4th, this really closed things up. With the five fly-away races left it was:

Webber 214
Hamilton 204
Button 194
Alonso 183
Massa 154
Kubica 147

(The last two still had a slim mathematical chance)

Last part to come tomorrow!
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Re: The No Germans in the last 20 years Alternative Champion

Postby James1978 » 17 May 2011, 03:20

2010 (final part)

(Sorry to keep you waiting Ferrim!!)

Webber really stamped his authority at the start of the flyaways - his 2nd to Alonso in Singapore extended his lead, not least surviving the collision with Hamilton which put paid to the McLaren driver's chances of good points there, and a win in Japan (though only after spoiler in the pack Kubica retired after leading the early laps before a loose wheel left his car) extended his lead to more than a win, with Alonso now nearest challenger after a 2nd, and Button now the leading McLaren driver after solid 3rds in both races. Now the fight was down to 4; with Massa and Kubica's mathematical chances now gone.

Home favourite Kobayashi equalled his best result of the season with 5th at his home race, and Lotus were ecstatic after a 9th and 10th almost secured them best new team.

Webber could have completely sealed it in Korea if Alonso and Button failed to score signifiantly, but he binned it from the lead in the early laps, he was helpless to watch t his now chief rival Alonso closed to within 6 points by winning, though not before Hamilton went wide at the first corner after a safety car (Webber was rooting for Hamilton too given the situation.....). Hamilton stayed in contention with 2nd, the trouble with McLaren drivers was they were swapping places ever race - with Button only 9th after a nightmare race.

Going to Brazil:

Webber 257
Alonso 251
Hamilton 234
Button 226

Brazil wasn't a very exciting race as those four contenders settled into the championship order quite early and finished in the top 4 positions, this had the effect of taking both McLaren drivers out of the equietion to leave a 2-way shootout going to Abu Dhabi, though with Webber 13 points ahead of Alonso - Webber with more wins only needed a 4th to be champion.

Abu Dhabi was in fact a bit of an anti-climax - McLaren dominated the event with the championship pressure removed, they ran 1-2 the whole race save for pitstop sequences, and all Webber had to do was shadow Alonso, Alonso pitted early after a safety car mixed the field up early (thanks to Liuzzi spinning and stalling in the middle of the track!), but Red Bull reacted and even though Webber came out behind, both of them were stuck behind Petrov, and Kubica also clearing his teammate, 3rd and 4th being Renault's best points haul of the year, the championship contenders finished nose-to-tail in 5th and 6th, so Webber was champion by 11 points, the first Australian champion for 30 years and the first ever for Red Bull!!!!

Final standings:

Mark Webber 290 (7 wins, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Fernando Alonso 279 (5 wins, 4 2nd, 2 3rd)
Lewis Hamilton 274 (5 wins, 3 2nd, 4 3rd)
Jenson Button 256 (2 wins, 5 2nd, 4 3rd)
Robert Kubica 194 (3 2nd, 2 3rd)
Felipe Massa 182 (2 2nd, 5 3rd)
Rubens Barrichello 103 (1 3rd, 2 4th)
Kamui Kobayashi 73 (4 5th)
Vitaly Petrov 66 (2 4th, 1 5th)
Vitantonio Liuzzi 60 (1 5th, 4 6th)
Jaime Alguersuari 56 (1 6th, 3 7th)
Sebastien Buemi 54 (1 6th, 6 7th)
Pedro De La Rosa 23 (1 5th)
Heikki Kovalainen 5 (1 9th)
Lucas Di Grassi 2 (2 10th)
Jarno Trulli 1 (1 10th)
Karun Chandhok 1 (1 10th)
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Re: The No Germans in the last 20 years Alternative Champion

Postby James1978 » 17 May 2011, 03:26

Some observations:

I believe the main reason Webber wins rather than Alonso was the fact that he picked up three of Vettel's orphaned wins (which were Red Bull 1-2's in real life), Alonso didn't pick up any of them, Hamilton got Valencia and Abu Dhabi, but he had more retirements than either Webber or Alonso and that cost him dearly. Most of Webber's bad races for poor finishes which he gained from, such as lowly finishes in Bahrain, Australia, China, Abu Dhabi, he gained quite a few points from those too and only DNF'd twice.

Kubica beating Massa was very well deserved as well I feel.

Liuzzi unrejectifies himself, though Alguersuari doesn't despite scoring over 50 points!

Also I really expected the new teams to score better with such a large number of Germans in the field, I worked out even if Glock had been eligible, he wouldn't have got any points either (though Virgin do beat HRT here)!!
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Re: The No Germans in the last 20 years Alternative Champion

Postby dr-baker » 17 May 2011, 04:23

And Karun Chandhok still remains the best of the HRT drivers from last season, being the only one to score!
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Re: The No Germans in the last 20 years Alternative Champion

Postby WeirdKerr » 18 May 2011, 05:46

interesting.... i was considering doing a No Italians.... with a twist but dont have the time....

Following Imola '94 all motor racing was banned in italy aso of December 31 1994 and no italian nationals (indiduallly or as companies) would be allowed to take part, Ferrari would move to Switzerland and Minardi to Spain
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Re: The No Germans in the last 20 years Alternative Champion

Postby James1978 » 18 May 2011, 08:18

WeirdKerr wrote:interesting.... i was considering doing a No Italians.... with a twist but dont have the time....

Following Imola '94 all motor racing was banned in italy aso of December 31 1994 and no italian nationals (indiduallly or as companies) would be allowed to take part, Ferrari would move to Switzerland and Minardi to Spain


Is eliminating Fisichella, Trulli, Liuzzi, Badoer and Morbidelli really going to have any effect on things? ;-)

Anyway, this year so far looks like:

Hamilton 73 (2 wins)
Webber 73 (1 win)
Button 62 (1 win)
Alonso 55
Massa 39
Petrov 36
Kobayashi 22
Buemi 19
Di Resta 14
Alguersuari 4
Barrichello 3
Perez 2
Trulli 1
Kovalainen 1

And it's close, and looking like a fight between the same drivers as last year in all truth. Buemi outscoring Alguersuari 19:4 is certainly very impressive! Maldonado has failed to score yet, both both Lotus drivers have done.......
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Re: The No Germans in the last 20 years Alternative Champion

Postby WeirdKerr » 19 May 2011, 05:20

James1978 wrote:
WeirdKerr wrote:interesting.... i was considering doing a No Italians.... with a twist but dont have the time....

Following Imola '94 all motor racing was banned in italy aso of December 31 1994 and no italian nationals (indiduallly or as companies) would be allowed to take part, Ferrari would move to Switzerland and Minardi to Spain


Is eliminating Fisichella, Trulli, Liuzzi, Badoer and Morbidelli really going to have any effect on things? ;-)

Anyway, this year so far looks like:

Hamilton 73 (2 wins)
Webber 73 (1 win)
Button 62 (1 win)
Alonso 55
Massa 39
Petrov 36
Kobayashi 22
Buemi 19
Di Resta 14
Alguersuari 4
Barrichello 3
Perez 2
Trulli 1
Kovalainen 1

And it's close, and looking like a fight between the same drivers as last year in all truth. Buemi outscoring Alguersuari 19:4 is certainly very impressive! Maldonado has failed to score yet, both both Lotus drivers have done.......



i guess but where are the germans.....
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Re: The No Germans in the last 20 years Alternative Champion

Postby James1978 » 27 Jun 2011, 04:37

Updated following Valencia - what a great battle we look to be having without "The Finger"!!! (It's the last 4 champions locked in battle as well)

(Also HRT score a point in Canada, and as Alguersuari now has 3 6ths in total, he is unrejectified!!!!) :)

Webber 139 (1 win, 4 2nd, 2 3rd)
Button 133 (2 wins, 2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Hamilton 123 (3 wins, 2 3rd)
Alonso 117 (2 wins, 1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Massa 63 (1 3rd, 3 4th)
Petrov 57 (1 2nd, 1 3rd)
Kobayashi 52 (1 4th, 2 5th)
Buemi 33 (1 6th)
Di Resta 23 (1 7th)
Barrichello 21 (1 6th)
Alguersuari 20 (2 6th)
Perez 18 (1 5th)
Trulli 3 (1 9th)
De la Rosa 2 (1 9th)
Kovalainen 2 (2 10th)
Maldonado 1 (1 10th)
Liuzzi 1 (1 10th)

I've just had another total brainwave for an alternative championship (well I had to given how boring Valencia was!), it's a bit odd but I'll post it soon!

Full list of champions for this championship BTW:

1992 Nigel Mansell
1993 Alain Prost
1994 Damon Hill
1995 Damon Hill
1996 Damon Hill
1997 Jacques Villeneuve
1998 Mika Hakkinen
1999 Eddie Irvine
2000 Mika Hakkinen
2001 David Coulthard
2002 Rubens Barrichello
2003 Kimi Raikkonen
2004 Rubens Barrichello
2005 Fernando Alonso
2006 Fernando Alonso
2007 Lewis Hamilton
2008 Lewis Hamilton
2009 Jenson Button
2010 Mark Webber
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Re: The No Germans in the last 20 years Alternative Champion

Postby James1978 » 26 Dec 2011, 05:58

2011 (final standings)

Jenson Button 324 (7 wins, 4 2nd, 3 3rd)
Mark Webber 312 (3 wins, 7 2nd, 5 3rd)
Fernando Alonso 307 (3 wins, 7 2nd, 4 3rd)
Lewis Hamilton 279 (6 wins, 5 3rd)
Felipe Massa 171 (1 3rd, 8 4th, 4 5th)
Vitaly Petrov 101 (1 2nd, 1 3rd, 2 5th)
Paul Di Resta 86 (2 5th, 3 6th)
Kamui Kobayashi 84 (1 4th, 3 5th)
Jaime Alguersuari 68 (2 5th, 4 6th)
Sergio Perez 61 (2 5th, 2 6th)
Sebastien Buemi 53 (1 6th, 4 7th)
Rubens Barrichello 31 (1 6th, 1 7th)
Pastor Maldonado 19 (1 6th, 1 8th)
Bruno Senna 13 (1 7th, 1 8th)
Jarno Trulli 4 (1 9th, 2 10th)
Heikki Kovalainen 3 (3 10th)
Pedro De La Rosa 2 (1 9th)
Vitantonio Liuzzi 1 (1 10th)

Apart from Hamilton outscoring twice as many wins as both Webber and Alonso, there aren;t really any surprised here. Even without Vettel there aren't any new winners here! Plenty of unrejectifications of the midfield men though.
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Re: The No Germans in the last 20 years Alternative Champion

Postby James1978 » 05 Dec 2012, 08:23

2012

Fernando Alonso 311 (4 wins, 8 2nd, 1 3rd)
Kimi Raikkonen 248 (2 wins, 3 2nd, 2 3rd)
Jenson Button 228 (5 wins, 1 2nd, 2 3rd)
Mark Webber 225 (3 wins, 1 2nd, 4 3rd)
Lewis Hamilton 221 (4 wins, 2 2nd, 3 3rd)
Felipe Massa 168 (1 win, 5 3rd)
Romain Grosjean 119 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Sergio Perez 93 (2 2nd, 1 3rd)
Kamui Kobayashi 91 (1 2nd, 1 4th)
Paul Di Resta 91 (1 3rd, 2 4th)
Bruno Senna 66 (1 5th, 1 6th)
Pastor Maldonado 64 (1 win, 1 4th)
Daniel Ricciardo 44 (1 6th, 2 7th)
Jean-Eric Vergne 41 (2 5th, 1 6th)
Vitaly Petrov 6 (1 8th)
Charles Pic 2 (1 9th)
Heikki Kovalainen 1 (1 10th)

HRT drivers and D'Ambrosio fail to score.

Comfortable 3rd title for Alonso, hard to believe his only two previous titles even without Schumacher and Vettel were his 2005 and 2006 real-life ones!

Really suffering in the battle for 2nd was Hamilton with lots of DNFs compared to someone like Raikkonen for example. Hamilton went from 4th in real life to 5th here even with Vettel in front of him eliminated!

Some interesting teammate comparisons (when both are still eligible) - Senna beats Maldonado and Ricciardo beats Vergne, however Vergne unrejectifies himself and Ricciardo doesn't! :)

The "orphaned" wins are as follows:

China: Button
Bahrain: Raikkonen
Singapore: Button
Japan: Massa (the only driver to win a race this year who didn't in reality)
Korea: Webber
Indaa: Alonso

I knew there was a good reason for inventing this championship! :)
"If you don't stop pointing your finger at me, I'll snap it off and shove it up your arse". :) (David Purley to Niki Lauda, 1977)
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Re: The No Germans in the last 20 years Alternative Champion

Postby James1978 » 05 Dec 2012, 08:26

And an important bit of news for 2013 - in a shock announcement, 2007 and 2008 World Champion Lewis Hamilton leaves McLaren after 6 season there and goes to a brand new team we have never before called Mercedes AMG, with Ross Brawn finally having got some funds together following the demise of his own team after the 1-2 in 2009. Only enough money for one car though!
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