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Re: F1RWRS - A computerised F1Reject series

Postby Aerond » 18 May 2011, 03:09

Phoenix wrote:I have a random thought - with this improvement points system, wouldn't this increase the dominance of the top teams too much, since with the 1991-2002 points system only 6 drivers score each race? Plus, not every midfield team may grab RoTR or every reject team, the RoTY award, as well as the fact those points may not be enough to overcome better teams. So, what hopes do most of the teams have? I sincerely appreciate the change in circuits and using GP2 to recreate the races, but in this regard, it was better as it was before in my opinion. Even so, I have no intention to withdraw my team, just an opinion.

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Well, the credits you earn are only available at the end of the season (except Pay driver credits), so a winning team can´t improve that easily mid-season to have even more advantage, but I will give it a thought as to how create extra oppotunities for back of the field teams, and I´m open to hear any suggestions about this in order to make the competition closer.

In my opinion, even if a team doesn´t stand out, there´s a chance for everybody; what I mean is that every team has some good things and some weak things and it´s up to you to discover what your wake points are and how to overcome them. For example, Wizzie has fastly realized that his MRT chassis has loads of potential and the problem is with the engine and will probably spend most of his credits on a new engine to get back to the front, that would probably mean that not many credits are spent on drivers, which will give teams spending credits on drivers advantage in corners, while Wizzie gets an advantage in top speed and so on... What I mean is, even if you win, it takes a couple of seasons to have a car and drivers which are good to Gp2 standards, but, again, any suggestions to make the competition closer are welcome.
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Re: F1RWRS - A computerised F1Reject series

Postby Klon » 18 May 2011, 03:17

Now here's a daring proposal:

maybe we should have performance changes based on season results. How many teams do we have again? Well, nevermind, let's work with value "n". The team winning the constructor's title gets n BHP distracted from their engine. The second-placed effort gets n-1 BHP distracted. This goes on, until we are at the nth place, who only gets 1 point off their BHP. I don't know about your carset and how much this would hurt the winning teams, but in principle that should aid us. It could be justified in-game as success ballast - success ballast for an entire season; that would be something. :mrgreen:
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Re: F1RWRS - A computerised F1Reject series

Postby dr-baker » 18 May 2011, 04:41

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Aerond wrote:And Foxdale become the only team to have a double-DNF every race this season? Is there anything that can be done to adjust this, Aerond? Please? Pretty please? With a cherry on top? It'll need a miracle for us to overcome this to win the championship now...


I´m afraid if you want better reliability you´ll need a pay driver for a couple races then spend those credits on reliability points.

Well, a pay driver won't actually cost us any points as we aren't scoring any anyway... Foxdale will be entering negotiations soon then.
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Re: F1RWRS - A computerised F1Reject series

Postby tristan1117 » 18 May 2011, 07:06

Autosport wrote:American Racing Conglomerate Offers to Buy Trueba

American Racing Conglomerate has announced plans to merge with Trueba Racing Team at the end of the season. They also announced that the team would receive a large investment from the sponsors of Tristan Jung, in order to expedite the merging process. Giovanni Roda has been completely left in the dark, once again, and this is the second time that Jung has gone behind his owner's back. The first time, he became part-owner of the team, using his considerable monetary resources to buy a 20% share last year. Nobody is exactly sure where this money comes from, but reporters from this very magazine are investigating that as we speak. Jung initial hiring was said to be a safe move for Trueba, but over the last year and a half, it has become quite clear that Jung intends to take over the team outright. This latest move with American Racing Conglomerate is just the latest in a series of power grabs that Jung has made throughout the season. It has been noted that Jung commissioned the latest series of updates for TRT as well as demanding to become the number 1 driver at the beginning of the season. Roda, however, is MIA and after the last race in Dallas, he apparently returned to his Italian home straight away.

"Of course, we do not know the driver situation yet," said the ARC boss, "but I'm sure we'll have it all sorted out soon." Another glaring issue in ARC's merger is the health of the team itself. Lately, ARC has been among the best of the backmarkers, with both Jesus Plaza and Colin Pratchett performing well in the last few races. Both Plaza and Pratchett's qualifying results have been nothing short of spectacular, (Plaza qualified 6th in Rd. 1 and 9th in Rd. 2 and Pratchett qualified 9th in Dallas) even though their race results have been lacking. However, with Tristan Jung almost assured of a job next season, who will get the boot? And what will happen to Roda?


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Re: F1RWRS - A computerised F1Reject series

Postby watka » 18 May 2011, 07:22

Ashley Watkinson wrote:The Dallas race just goes to show what I'm capable of with a car that doesn't break down or get crashed into! My first finish of the season and I'm on the podium at a difficult track. I've got to be happy with myself and the team for that. Rhys has obviously been going well this season as well, and 4th is a great result for him. We are certainly in contention for the constructors' cup from this position, but I hope we can get that last little bit out of the car to be race winners soon.
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Re: F1RWRS - A computerised F1Reject series

Postby Wizzie » 18 May 2011, 11:49

Daniel Melrose wrote:To have my engine detonate was a disappointing end to what was a difficult weekend. The car does have potential as we have proven so far but there is still some more work we have to do before we can unlock that. In other news since Phillippe is currently at Munich Airport doing straight-line testing for the team Reyna-Sanzchez will also be driving one of the MRTs at the Laguna Seca test later this week. FInally more details about the MRT/Horizon merger prospects will be announced on the weekend of the Monaco Race.


Aerond wrote:In my opinion, even if a team doesn´t stand out, there´s a chance for everybody; what I mean is that every team has some good things and some weak things and it´s up to you to discover what your wake points are and how to overcome them. For example, Wizzie has fastly realized that his MRT chassis has loads of potential and the problem is with the engine and will probably spend most of his credits on a new engine to get back to the front, that would probably mean that not many credits are spent on drivers, which will give teams spending credits on drivers advantage in corners, while Wizzie gets an advantage in top speed and so on... What I mean is, even if you win, it takes a couple of seasons to have a car and drivers which are good to Gp2 standards, but, again, any suggestions to make the competition closer are welcome.


From memory you did suggest that sponsorship payments might be introduced next season. And for the record I'll probably be spending ALL my credits on a new engine.
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Re: F1RWRS - A computerised F1Reject series

Postby Aerond » 20 May 2011, 08:09

Wizzie wrote:
From memory you did suggest that sponsorship payments might be introduced next season. And for the record I'll probably be spending ALL my credits on a new engine.


Yeah, but the problem is how to effectively introduce this. Maybe sponsorship money can be given in order to off-track merits, qualifying merits or other criteria?
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Re: F1RWRS - A computerised F1Reject series

Postby AndreaModa » 20 May 2011, 09:52

Without making it too complicated, how about doing it in a rank system?

So if a team achieves certain things, they can access better sponsors.

Here's an example:

Castrol Jones Racing wins three races and has five podiums in the 2013 season. Before the start of the 2014 season they can choose to bring on board any of these new sponsors:

Sponsors available for three wins or more, bringing a total of 750 credits with them:
Marlboro
Red Bull
Vodafone

Sponsors available for one win bringing a total of 500 credits with them:
Camel
Petronas
Hewlett Packard

Sponsors available for five or more podiums bringing a total of 300 credits with them:
Castrol
etc
etc
etc

Obviously you'd have limitations on the number of sponsors a team could have, say a maximum of two from the top three 'tiers' if available, with a maximum of five from lower tiers? Maybe unrestricted on the lowest of tiers so the more worse-off teams aren't so disadvantaged e.g. a tier for 5 top ten finishes, etc.

I'd also recommend if something like this is implemented that as many of the current sponsors of teams in the F1RWRS for 2013 are put in suitable tiers for 2014 so we maintain a bit of continuity if people desire it (one of the things I wasn't too happy about with the last set of rule changes).

Just an idea anyway :)
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Re: F1RWRS - A computerised F1Reject series

Postby the Masked Lapwing » 20 May 2011, 14:30

How about getting x amount of credits for a major sponsor (a maximum of two), and then y amount of credits for minor sponsors (a maximum of, say, 5)?

For example, HRT would get 2x credits for Holden and HSV, and 5y for Repco, Sony, Telstra, Bridgestone and Rockstar.
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Re: F1RWRS - A computerised F1Reject series

Postby Aerond » 20 May 2011, 17:47

The main thing is to help the worse teams in order to make competition closer. The things you propose are fine but I don´t see any advantage for the "poor" teams there. Maybe a BHP penalty for each race and podium won is enough.
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Re: F1RWRS - A computerised F1Reject series

Postby AndreaModa » 20 May 2011, 20:49

Aerond wrote:The main thing is to help the worse teams in order to make competition closer. The things you propose are fine but I don´t see any advantage for the "poor" teams there. Maybe a BHP penalty for each race and podium won is enough.


But at the end of the day is that not just tough luck on their part? It might seem a bit harsh but it's entirely down to them to pick a chassis/engine combo and as I think I've proved, even with a limited choice coming in part-way through the season, it can still be made to work pretty well. Whilst it is unfair that Foxdale, amongst others, are suffering from a terrible amount of luck, you could argue that it makes it a much more realistic, and therefore enjoyable (if that's the right word) a bit like say Ferrari's shocker in 1993, or Honda in 2007/08. Foxdale will have the opportunity to either improve over this season (if they can) or bounce back in 2014 with a new chassis or engine or both, potentially with more credits if the sponsorship idea comes to fruition.

If we start buggering about with penalties, etc. it makes it more confusing and will penalise teams who've perhaps made sensible choices, or even ones who have made choices that pull off the odd surprise result. It ruins the natural development of the season and of the teams by artificially holding some of them back.
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Re: F1RWRS - A computerised F1Reject series

Postby dr-baker » 21 May 2011, 02:37

Don't forget the godd old acronym, KISS = kEEP It Simple, Stupid. I'm happy with the way things are, despite my team's rotten luck. Talking of which,:


Foxdale Auto Racing Team Press Release

As you all know, during the off-season, Pippa Mann, the 2012 F1RWRS champion, was contemplating retirement. In the end, she had decided not to, hoping that her success from last season would continue into this current season. Sadly, despite competitive qualifying and race pace, failing to yet record a single race finish has made her reconsider her options and she has decided to step down and concentrate on running the team.

As a result, alongside needing an additional driver, Pippa saw a need to spend more money on reliability and on replacing all the parts that have so far failed. As the budget has already been streched, Pippa's replacement at Foxdale will be the hitherto unknown pay-driver, Ben Fleet. Foxdale are hoping that his apperance will not be fleeting...

(Can any and all credits that Ben Fleet raises for Foxdale be added to Foxdale's reliability immediately after they are earnt, please? Thanks!)
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Re: F1RWRS - A computerised F1Reject series

Postby SuperAguri » 21 May 2011, 03:42

Shinji Zanmai wrote:Shizuka san drove a fantastic race, I am only sorry that the car broke down when it did as he was on for an easy win, Katayama san did a fantastic job considering the car was suffering electrical glitches all race, a 5th and our first finish is just reward. We are sad to hear that Pippa Mann is retiring, although I did not know her very well, the team considered Foxdale to be it's rival and we wish her all the best in running the team. Katayama san was happy that she will get all the media attention of being the only woman in the sport now.


Barii Mori wrote:Well I got the car home, 8th is not where I want to be but we were faster then the Phoenix and HRT cars and I was fighting the Arrowtech of Martins to the very end. Nicolas was running well and could have scored points but a 10p rubber washer failed and ruined his race.


As a number of us do comments and play this game as if we were the drivers or bosses, then why not reward us for making the game as it is. So if you don't comment at all then you lose speed and reliabilty, may teams that have lots of reliabilty might find it dropping slightly, the tail enders trying hard to get the card up the table with a few races just clicking and getting a speed boast,etc. Most of this would be down to Aerond, but I think it would spice up the drama and be good for game as a whole, nice that it is not completely random and that there is some logic in the finishing.

The other thing we could consider for next season is the concept of a home race, so if all the drivers list their nationality and the team owners list the nationality of the team then maybe there could be a small power boost for that race. If there is no home race for the driver then they can pick a race as their home race.
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Re: F1RWRS - A computerised F1Reject series

Postby tommykl » 21 May 2011, 04:52

There shouldn't be a bonus for being more active, as it would penalise users who just don't have the time to post all that much.
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Re: F1RWRS - A computerised F1Reject series

Postby SuperAguri » 21 May 2011, 07:49

True, but there are users that do log in and write messages in other threads, so I can not see why they can not post a "Well the car was rubbish" ever so often. Even if they did it once a month it would be better then some drivers who sign up and are never heard from again until the start of the new season.
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Re: F1RWRS - A computerised F1Reject series

Postby AndreaModa » 21 May 2011, 08:18

SuperAguri wrote:True, but there are users that do log in and write messages in other threads, so I can not see why they can not post a "Well the car was rubbish" ever so often. Even if they did it once a month it would be better then some drivers who sign up and are never heard from again until the start of the new season.


I'd tentatively agree with you, obviously there are some teams in the series with next to no representation from their respective team owners/managers that are doing better than some who have traditionally taken more interest in the series. It is a bit unfair but I'm not sure how you'd deal with that. Penalties for that sort of thing seem a little harsh.

Maybe using the carrot, and not the stick, would work? It would further complicate matters but perhaps at the end of each season people who've posted at or after at least 75% of the races receive some sort of credit bonus? Aerond could keep a simple tally, and publish it at the end of the season.
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Re: F1RWRS - A computerised F1Reject series

Postby Phoenix » 21 May 2011, 08:51

I like the idea of sponsorship, but I'm against punishing winning teams and people who doesn't comment on this thread. That's just not fair because the natural thing in every sport is to try to be the best, and you can't punish that people, but help a bit those who have more troubles for his worth to shine more. And there's people that doesn't have either patience or time to post comments here, and it's very unfair to punish them.

I think sponsors should be determined by performance and the decision to take on pay drivers (maybe we could create a special category for the sponsors that come attached to pay drivers?), but every teams has to have at least two lower tier sponsors in my opinion. Thoughts?

Apart from that, my race in Dallas was shite as usual.
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Re: F1RWRS - A computerised F1Reject series

Postby JeremyMcClean » 22 May 2011, 06:05

Jeez, with the exception of the points system, keep it as is. The points system should be the 2003-09 version, 10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1.
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Re: F1RWRS - A computerised F1Reject series

Postby Aerond » 22 May 2011, 10:51

After this caroussel of opinions I would say to keep it as it is for the short term. Sponsorship seems too of a complex idea at the moment, when I got my hands in F1RWRS and introduced the current system, I thought it should be easy for everybody to understand and follow and I don´t think sponsorhip (or at least our current concept around it) matches that idea.
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Re: F1RWRS - A computerised F1Reject series

Postby tommykl » 22 May 2011, 16:37

Yes, this system is definitely much more simple than I thought it would be. All you had to do was pick a car and engine (checking the performance and reliability if you were a bit smart) and splashing all you remaining credits later to improve your car if you think it lacks somewhere. Pay drivers aren't necessary, so I won't use them until my team falls back dangerously.
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Re: F1RWRS - A computerised F1Reject series

Postby MinardiFan95 » 23 May 2011, 19:30

Dave Simpson wrote:I'm pleased with the reliability of the car this season, its helped me to score quite a few points so far. However it does lack some power though. I don't know what the team is planning at the moment in terms of car upgrades, etc, but hopefully we'll be able to find some speed without sacrificing reliability. Speaking of reliability, hopefully the team will sort out the problems that have been plaguing Gary's car this season some time soon. It would be great to see both Prospec cars in the points once again.


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Postby Phoenix » 24 May 2011, 08:35

OK, you want it simple, let's set up a single sponsor for each time that will pay a fixed amount of 300 credits regardless of results.
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Re: F1RWRS - A computerised F1Reject series

Postby the Masked Lapwing » 27 May 2011, 22:18

If you let this die Aerond... :evil:

:lol: Just kidding. But seriously, why so long since the last race?
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Re: F1RWRS - A computerised F1Reject series

Postby Aerond » 28 May 2011, 01:53

the Masked Lapwing wrote:If you let this die Aerond... :evil:

:lol: Just kidding. But seriously, why so long since the last race?


Oh, don´t worry at all, next race is coming this weekend (along with test session at Laguna Seca...). Last weekend I was totally hooked up with job at the restaurant (it was the local festival, so loads of people attending) and I´ve had commitments practically everyday this week.
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Re: F1RWRS - A computerised F1Reject series

Postby Shizuka » 28 May 2011, 01:56

I need to finish a race and fast... :? :oops:
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Re: F1RWRS - A computerised F1Reject series

Postby dr-baker » 28 May 2011, 03:07

Shizuka wrote:I need to finish a race and fast... :? :oops:

Neither Foxdale car has yet finished a race yet this season despite being fast...
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Re: F1RWRS - A computerised F1Reject series

Postby Shizuka » 28 May 2011, 04:22

dr-baker wrote:
Shizuka wrote:I need to finish a race and fast... :? :oops:

Neither Foxdale car has yet finished a race yet this season despite being fast...


I haven't finished races recently... retiring from the lead! Is it viral? :oops: :shock:
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Re: F1RWRS - A computerised F1Reject series

Postby Aerond » 28 May 2011, 04:43

An update on teams accounts -after 4th race and having applied all recent updates-:

HRT: 0 cr.
MRT: 180 cr.
Horizon: 80 cr.
FAT: 180 cr.
Phoenix: 0 cr.
Trueba: 120 cr.
Sunshine: 0 cr.
Dagnall: 0 cr.
Gillet: 0 cr.
SOTL: 100 cr.
Foxdale: 25 cr.
Flying Fish: 100 cr.
Kamaha: 0 cr.
Calinetic: 40 cr.
Prospec: 150 cr.
CR: 0 cr.
Virgin Intercorse: 450 cr.
Arrowtech: 125 cr.
ARC: 0 cr.
Jones Racing: 0 cr.
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Postby dr-baker » 28 May 2011, 05:07

Aerond wrote:An update on teams accounts -after 4th race and having applied all recent updates-:

Foxdale: 25 cr.

dr-baker wrote:... Pippa's replacement at Foxdale will be the hitherto unknown pay-driver, Ben Fleet. Foxdale are hoping that his apperance will not be fleeting...

(Can any and all credits that Ben Fleet raises for Foxdale be added to Foxdale's reliability immediately after they are earnt, please? Thanks!)

....Or is there a minimum number of credits to be spent at one time on improving reliability?
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Postby Aerond » 28 May 2011, 05:41

LAGUNA SECA OFFICIAL TESTING --

The organisers decided to run the fast, 80´s version of the track; and announced the intention to fight with Dallas organisers in order to win the 2014 spot for the United States GP using this layout.

---- TEST RESULTS ----

1. Ben Fleet (Foxdale) -- 49.190
2. Douglas Mann (Foxdale) -- 49.775
3. Hagane Shizuka (Sunshine) -- 49.943
4. Mark Dagnall (Dagnall) -- 50.017
5. Dave McFaste (FAT) -- 50.259
6. Kay Lon (Jones) -- 50.417
7. Saeed Al Faisal (FAT) -- 50.458
8. Chris Dagnall (Dagnall) -- 50.544
9. Ashley Watkinson (HRT) -- 50.548
10. Yu Hiang Hao (Flying Fish) -- 50.650
11. Jesus Plaza (ARC) -- 50.654
12. Colin Pratchett (ARC) -- 50.668
13. Daniel Melrose (Arrowtech) -- 50.810
14. Daniel Martins (Arrowtech) -- 50.812
15. David Koczo (Calinetic) -- 50.852
16. Gary Cameron (Prospec) -- 50.893
17. Jari Kekkonen (Phoenix) -- 51.011
18. Giovanni Roda (Trueba) -- 51.096
19. Aurelian Moll (Gillet) -- 51.138
20. Shinobu Katayama (Sunshine) -- 51.140
21. Richie White (SOTL) -- 51.179
22. Thomas de Bock (Gillet) -- 51.220
23. Barii Mori (Kamaha) -- 51.296
24. Nathaniel Spencer (MRT) -- 51.334
25. Tristan Jung (Trueba) -- 51.365
26. Sammy Jones (Jones) -- 51.374
27. Rhys Davies (HRT) -- 51.425
28. Resi Respati (Flying Fish) -- 51.460
29. Phoenix McAllister (Phoenix) -- 51.663
30. Nicolas Steele (Kamaha) -- 51.730
31. Todd Cockburn (Virgin Intercorse) -- 51.778
32. Dave Simpson (Prospec) -- 51.814
33. Phil McCraken (Virgin Intercorse) -- 51.863
34. Frank Zimmer (Horizon) -- 51.940
35. Damon Cannon (SOTL) -- 52.015
36. John Zimmer (Calinetic) -- 52.256
37. Dean O´Lauchlan (Horizon) -- 53.530
38. Vidal Reyna-Sanchez (MRT) -- 53.570
39. Darren Older Jr (CR) -- 55.074
40. Andrea Massini (CR) -- 55.239
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Re: F1RWRS - A computerised F1Reject series

Postby Aerond » 28 May 2011, 05:42

dr-baker wrote:
Aerond wrote:An update on teams accounts -after 4th race and having applied all recent updates-:

Foxdale: 25 cr.

dr-baker wrote:... Pippa's replacement at Foxdale will be the hitherto unknown pay-driver, Ben Fleet. Foxdale are hoping that his apperance will not be fleeting...

(Can any and all credits that Ben Fleet raises for Foxdale be added to Foxdale's reliability immediately after they are earnt, please? Thanks!)

....Or is there a minimum number of credits to be spent at one time on improving reliability?


Oh, sorry, I thought you´d wait until mid season. You´ll have your credits spent for the Monaco race.
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Re: F1RWRS - A computerised F1Reject series

Postby Aerond » 28 May 2011, 06:14

F1RWRS 2013 - ROUND 5 - MONACO

Pre-Qualifying

1. Sammy Jones (Jones) -- 1.16.643
2. Saeed Al Faisal (FAT) -- 1.16.726 (+0.083)
3. Resi Respati (Flying Fish) -- 1.16.772 (+0.129)
4. Kay Lon (Jones) -- 1.16.892 (+0.249)
5. Colin Pratchett (ARC) -- 1.16.926 (+0.283)
6. David Koczo (Calinetic) -- 1.17.210 (+0.567)
7. Tristan Jung (Trueba) -- 1.17.529 (+0.886)
8. Giovanni Roda (Trueba) -- 1.17.570 (+0.927)
9. Damon Cannon (SOTL) -- 1.17.572 (+0.929)
10. Yu Hiang Hao (Flying Fish) -- 1.18.203 (+1.560)
11. Dave McFaste (FAT) -- 1.18.281 (+1.638)
12. Jesus Plaza (ARC) -- 1.18.282 (+1.639)
13. Todd Cockburn (Virgin Intercorse) -- 1.18.586 (+1.923)
14. John Zimmer (Calinetic) -- 1.19.200 (+2.557)
15. Richie White (SOTL) -- 1.19.281 (+2.638)
16. Phil McCraken (Virgin Intercorse) -- 1.19.890 (+3.247)
17. Frank Zimmer (Horizon) -- 1.20.331 (+3.688)
18. Dean O´Lauchlan (Horizon) -- 1.21.442 (+4.799)

Combined times -Teams in bold go into main qualifying

1. Jones Racing -- 2.33.535
2. Flying Fish -- 2.34.975
3. FAT -- 2.35.007

4. Trueba -- 2.35.099
5. ARC -- 2.35.208
6. Calinetic -- 2.36.410
7. SOTL -- 2.36.853
8. Virgin Intercorse -- 2.38.476
9. Horizon -- 2.41.773

QUALIFYING

1. Ben Fleet (Foxdale) -- 1.15.178
2. Hagane Shizuka (Sunshine) -- 1.15.658 (+0.480)
3. Chris Dagnall (Dagnall) -- 1.15.933 (+0.755)
4. Thomas de Bock (Gillet) -- 1.16.011 (+0.833)
5. Mark Dagnall (Dagnall) -- 1.16.164 (+0.986)
6. Dave McFaste (FAT) -- 1.16.413 (+1.235)
7. Sammy Jones (Jones) -- 1.16.528 (+1.350)
8. Saeed Al Faisal (FAT) -- 1.16.649 (+1.471)
9. Douglas Mann (Foxdale) -- 1.16.655 (+1.477)
10. Kay Lon (Jones) -- 1.16.762 (+1.584)
11. Resi Respati (Flying Fish) -- 1.16.927 (+1.749)
12. Shinobu Katayama (Sunshine) -- 1.17.257 (+2.079)
13. Aurelian Moll (Gillet) -- 1.17.648 (+2.470)
14. Ashley Watkinson (HRT) -- 1.18.088 (+2.910)
15. Phillipe Nicolas (MRT) -- 1.18.177 (+2.999)
16. Rhys Davies (HRT) -- 1.18.204 (+3.026)
17. Phoenix McAllister (Phoenix) -- 1.18.205 (+3.027)
18. Yu Hiang Hao (Flying Fish) -- 1.18.252 (+3.074)
19. Barii Mori (Kamaha) -- 1.18.326 (+3.148)
20. Daniel Martins (Arrowtech) -- 1.18.443 (+3.265)
21. Daniel Melrose (Arrowtech) -- 1.18.478 (+3.300)
22. Nicolas Steele (Kamaha) -- 1.18.523 (+3.345)
23. Gary Cameron (Prospec) -- 1.18.606 (+3.428)
24. Dave Simpson (Prospec) -- 1.18.730 (+3.552)
25. Jari Kekkonen (Phoenix) -- 1.18.885 (+3.707)
26. Nathaniel Spencer (MRT) -- 1.19.568 (+4.390)
DNQ. Darren Older Jr (CR) -- 1.23.084 (+7.906)
DNQ. Fredo Mestolio (CR) -- 1.24.154 (+8.976)

RACE

As there aren´t many opportunities before the first corner, the start don´t give many suprises. Chris Dagnall passes Shizuka for 2nd and Jones climbs to 6th.
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The top 5 inmediately open a gap to the rest. On lap 2 Kay Lon makes a mistake which sees him back to 13th. The first man to retire is Nicolas Steele with broken suspension arm. On lap 9, the race suffers its first big change; Ben Fleet spins at Massenet, hits the wall and Mark Dagnall can´t avoid him, resulting in an inmediate retirement for the rookie, while Dagnall has to pit for a new Front Wing, ruining his 3 stop strategy.

Lap 10:

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From then on, Dagnall and Shizuka open an important gap to De Bock. Douglas Mann pits on lap 20, going for 3 stops, Mark Dagnall pits as well. Two laps later, Hiang Hao retires and one lap later, Shizuka suffers a lot to pass both Prospec and loses a whopping 8 seconds to Chris Dagnall! Sunshine disgraces don´t end there, as Douglas Mann hits Katayama while passing and the Japanese driver retires just three laps later. Then, the window for the two stoppers open and Shizuka makes clear the 2 stop strategy, while Chris Dagnall will go for one.

Lap 30 situation:

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Dagnall then suffers from traffic, while Shizuka runs a bit cleaner and his advantage is reduced to just 13 seconds on lap 32; then, the 2nd big change happens. Respati´s car expires, and Resi has the brilliant idea to stop at the exit of Le Rascasse, in the middle of the racing line. Several drivers avoid him, but Mori can´t, and Shizuka, who´s just behind, slams on the brakes and Spencer rams him, making Shizuka hit Mori as well and both Japanese are out of the race!!
Dagnall pits on lap 38, and just when it feels he´s going for an easy win, retires after half a lap, which leaves Thomas de Bock with a comfortable lead.

Lap 40 situation:

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Just a few meters after I took that Pic, Douglas Mann pits. Mark Dagnall does as well and appears 7th, behind Moll as we see a great fight for 3rd between Kay Lon, Sammy Jones and Douglas Mann. Mann passes Jones on lap 43 and needs just another lap to pass Lon and opens a gap. Next big event comes at lap 53 when de Bock pits, although he keeps the lead. Kay Lon retires at that very moment, but doing a favour to his team-mate as he blocks Mark Dagnall for a while before parking his car. Sammy Jones pits a lap later and then Mark Dagnall, as he´s free of traffic, loses it at the last corner and is out of the race! The fallen list doesn´t end there as Melrose first, and McFaste later, complete the list of retirements before lap 60.

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Then, a new tough battle starts to take form, as McAllister and Nicolas fight for 6th position, with both drivers done with pitstops and fresh tyres and Nicolas in an slightly faster (and surprising) MRT. It becomes a three way battle when Rhys Davies joins them on lap 62. Just when everything seems quiet at the front, Douglas Mann retires, completing the 5th double DNF for Foxdale. Then, Davies suffers brakes problems and has to make an extra stop to fix it.

Lap 70:
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Then, surprises are not finished as De Bock suffers a suspension problem and retires just 8 laps from the end! Sammy Jones then takes the lead with a comfortable gap over Aurelian Moll. The battle for 4th now is amazing as McAllister, Nicolas, Cameron and Davies, on fresh tyres form a group. On lap 75 Davies passes Cameron and seconds later the Prospec driver is out. He manages to pass Nicolas on lap 76 as Sammy Jones enter his final lap... to retire at Massenet with a puncture!! That means Aurelian Moll takes the lead for a win, but it also lets McAllister, Davies and Nicolas fight for an extra lap, which sees Davies passing McAllister at Ste.Devote for the 4th position in a breathtaking race.

Results:

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FASTEST LAP: Hagane Shizuka (Sunshine) -- 1.19.314
ROTR: Resi Respati: Parked his park in the middle of the racing line and made way for a big accident.

CHAMPIONSHIP STANDINGS -- After 5 events --

Drivers

1. Mark Dagnall -- 20 pts
2. Rhys Davies -- 17 pts
3. Kay Lon -- 16 pts
4. Aurelian Moll -- 14 pts
5. Daniel Melrose -- 11 pts
6. Thomas de Bock -- 10 pts
=. Ashley Watkinson -- 10 pts
8. Dave Simpson -- 9 pts
9. Chris Dagnall -- 6 pts
10. Daniel Martins -- 4 pts
=. Sammy Jones -- 4 pts
12. Nathaniel Spencer -- 2 pts
=. Shinobu Katayama -- 2 pts
=. Phoenix McAllister -- 2 pts
=. Phillippe Nicolas -- 2 pts
16. John Zimmer -- 1 pt

Teams

1. HRT -- 27 pts
2. Dagnall Engineering -- 26 pts
3. Gillet -- 24 pts
4. Jones Racing -- 20 pts
5. Arrowtech -- 15 pts
6. Prospec -- 9 pts
7. MRT -- 4 pts
8. Sunshine -- 2 pts
=. Phoenix -- 2 pts
10. Calinetic -- 1 pt
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Re: F1RWRS - A computerised F1Reject series

Postby JeremyMcClean » 28 May 2011, 06:55

What can you spend your credits on again?
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Re: F1RWRS - A computerised F1Reject series

Postby dr-baker » 28 May 2011, 07:33

Aerond wrote:
dr-baker wrote:
Aerond wrote:An update on teams accounts -after 4th race and having applied all recent updates-:

Foxdale: 25 cr.

dr-baker wrote:... Pippa's replacement at Foxdale will be the hitherto unknown pay-driver, Ben Fleet. Foxdale are hoping that his apperance will not be fleeting...

(Can any and all credits that Ben Fleet raises for Foxdale be added to Foxdale's reliability immediately after they are earnt, please? Thanks!)

....Or is there a minimum number of credits to be spent at one time on improving reliability?


Oh, sorry, I thought you´d wait until mid season. You´ll have your credits spent for the Monaco race.

Thanks. That recent test shows that Foxdale clearly has the speed, but all the DNFs show that there is zero reliability, so why Foxdale need as much reliuability as soon as possible! ;)

Actually, fastest in his debut test, when everybody else has already competed in four races in their cars, makes me think that Ben Fleet is not bad for a pay driver... Let's see how he goes round the streets of Monaco...
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Re: F1RWRS - A computerised F1Reject series

Postby the Masked Lapwing » 28 May 2011, 07:34

Aerond wrote:CR: 0 cr.


Oh come on! Older Jr's been a pay driver since day one (wait, no, he was a late-ish joiner, wasn't he?), and Massini is one too. By my reckoning, shouldn't they have something in the vicinity of 80 credits?
(Note: If I'm right, spend 40 each on their quali performance.)
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Re: F1RWRS - A computerised F1Reject series

Postby tristan1117 » 28 May 2011, 08:22

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The long break between Rd. 4 and Rd. 5 has gone rather poorly for Giovanni Roda. At the beginning of the break, he received word that his own teammate, Tristan Jung, had gone behind his back and bought a large stake in American Racing Conglomerate. Today, he received word that American Racing Conglomerate would officially be merging with Trueba Racing Team, after Roda failed to lodge a protest against the takeover. The team director, Giacomo Rossini, acting in absentia, sold the remaining roughly 50% of the team to American Racing Conglomerate boss Brad Paisley yesterday, and with no response from the Roda camp, the deal appears to be complete. Roda still personally controls about %15 of the team (the remainder is held by sponsors) and we are wondering what will happen when Roda arrives in Monaco. Stay tuned.
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Re: F1RWRS - A computerised F1Reject series

Postby Aerond » 28 May 2011, 10:07

the Masked Lapwing wrote:
Aerond wrote:CR: 0 cr.


Oh come on! Older Jr's been a pay driver since day one (wait, no, he was a late-ish joiner, wasn't he?), and Massini is one too. By my reckoning, shouldn't they have something in the vicinity of 80 credits?
(Note: If I'm right, spend 40 each on their quali performance.)


I don´t agree. What you actually (or someone) said is that, in the beggining of F1RWRS, Older Jr was a pay driver, but never stated if he was on that status now, so I assumed he was just a regular driver. Noone ever said anything about Massini, but I propose something: You can change Massini for another driver, who can enter as soon as Monaco. This pay driver will pay 40 per race in the first four races, then the regular rate (20) from then on. Of course you can also replace Older Jr with another pay driver on a regular rate.
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Re: F1RWRS - A computerised F1Reject series

Postby Aerond » 28 May 2011, 10:10

JeremyMcClean wrote:What can you spend your credits on again?


CAR UPDATES -Reliability to be lost on chassis change, Engine Power to be lost on Engine change-

Reliability; Every 50 reliability points - 5 Credits
Engine Power; 1 BHP - 10 credits

Drivers -TEAM OWNER MUST SPECIFY TO WHICH DRIVER WILL BE APPLIED-:

Qualifying Performance; 20 points - 10 credits
Race Performance; 20 points - 10 credits
Driver Consistency; 10 points - 5 credits
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Re: F1RWRS - A computerised F1Reject series

Postby the Masked Lapwing » 28 May 2011, 11:23

Aerond wrote:
the Masked Lapwing wrote:
Aerond wrote:CR: 0 cr.


Oh come on! Older Jr's been a pay driver since day one (wait, no, he was a late-ish joiner, wasn't he?), and Massini is one too. By my reckoning, shouldn't they have something in the vicinity of 80 credits?
(Note: If I'm right, spend 40 each on their quali performance.)


I don´t agree. What you actually (or someone) said is that, in the beggining of F1RWRS, Older Jr was a pay driver, but never stated if he was on that status now, so I assumed he was just a regular driver. Noone ever said anything about Massini, but I propose something: You can change Massini for another driver, who can enter as soon as Monaco. This pay driver will pay 40 per race in the first four races, then the regular rate (20) from then on. Of course you can also replace Older Jr with another pay driver on a regular rate.


Dammit. Oh well. Older Jr is a pay driver. As for Massini, sack him, and I'll replace him with Fredo Mestolio. Stealing names from V8SC3 is fun.
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Re: F1RWRS - A computerised F1Reject series

Postby JeremyMcClean » 28 May 2011, 12:05

ArrowTech is using 15 credits on chassis reliability.

Using 90 credits on an engine improvement of 9 BHP.

Jari Kekkonen to get 10 credits of race preformance
Nicolas Steele to get 10 credits of race preformance as well.

That should equal 125 credits spent.
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